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3/8/2021 7:37am
3/8/2021 7:37am
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3/19/2021 4:32am
Fantic leads the 250 and the 125 class. Impressive stuff!
https://mxvice.com/all-results-alghero-ita/
A win and a 2nd so far for Nicholas Lapucci! Surely credit also goes to Jan Witteveen the famous tuner.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMILycCgHTO/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CL43C-Jh6YH/
Motofinne:
"During the 125 moto the commentator said to Rinaldi in a slightly funny way that he has heard rumors about Yamaha coming out with a new 125 engine, Rinaldi answered that he doesn't know anything about something like that. Then the commentator laughed and basically said "oh, well those are the rumors that i have heard" and Rinaldi finally said "i have heard them too".
It's really difficult to put that conversation to text. But with the tone they talked and with the tone he answered the commentator, it was pretty easy to read between the lines that something is coming in the future."
https://mxvice.com/all-results-alghero-ita/
A win and a 2nd so far for Nicholas Lapucci! Surely credit also goes to Jan Witteveen the famous tuner.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMILycCgHTO/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CL43C-Jh6YH/
Motofinne:
"During the 125 moto the commentator said to Rinaldi in a slightly funny way that he has heard rumors about Yamaha coming out with a new 125 engine, Rinaldi answered that he doesn't know anything about something like that. Then the commentator laughed and basically said "oh, well those are the rumors that i have heard" and Rinaldi finally said "i have heard them too".
It's really difficult to put that conversation to text. But with the tone they talked and with the tone he answered the commentator, it was pretty easy to read between the lines that something is coming in the future."
Let the Italian company be their subsidized-by-branded-sales R&D house, and keep that blue dinosaur alive for another decade.
The Shop
If so, is the 250f chassis to big to slot a 125 into?
Would it be fairly simple for Yamaha to slot an updated 125 engine into late model 250f chassis?
2- 4Tempi / 2- 4Takt, and a variety of other languages are out there that describe the ICE formats. There's more than just English out there on our planet.
Me - I'm not sure that you'd get much, if any, benefit from putting the 125 into the 250F chassis. Just slimmer / different plastics and seat set up, on the existing chassis, ala Fantic, and dipping into the 4t parts bin to get the weight savings from the Swingarm etc conversion that so many do, makes for a very cheap, very effective update.
All they have to do is drop the little smoker engine in butt-end forward, route the chain up to the front wheel: Voilà! ready to rip the world's first front wheel drive MXer
The 250 chasis could use a little love.
You, especially with your 2nd paragraph, read as being one that can't do such things.
Fair enough, as there are plenty of things I can't do as well as others here, and, I daresay, things that you may do easily.
A Yz125 motor shoved into the backwards motor chassis would be a cobbled-together trainwreck compared to just a YZ125 in even the best of builds.
Obviously the second paragraph was just a joke meant to illustrate that.
You'll find that I don't favour such a conversion. Just a waste of time, in my opinion. Check my second paragraph in my original post.
But doing the, to me, unnecessary job, would not be particularly hard. Putting the engine in the correct position - and by that I mean duplicating the CS to SA pivot geometry ( as close as possible, I've no idea of the CS center to SA pivot center in both engines respective cases) , would be the most important thing. It always is, though so, so many mess that up.
Then, you do the ancillaries. With no airbox behind the engine, well, you'd have some fun and games, but, it would be far from insurmountable. The fuel tank? Well, no real problem there using the std one, but with my obsession for getting fuel low, I'd find it hard not to be a silly bugger and not build a tank - a tank that would be far, far more work that the engine placement. If I didn't do that - and I hope I wouldn't want to give myself so much work, the next silly thing would be resisting the temptation to do a 'weird' pipe, with all the room above the tiny, slanted engine.
And hey, as I wrote, there's things you may do better than me. For example, take your Points avatar and Nom de plume : the last time I set some points was when I had a 348 Montesa, in 1983.......... or was it my VW Station Wagon??? I haven't got near a Points and Condenser ignition, in yonks
Pit Row
That you can't do projects / engineering and fabrication, does not mean many others can't.
Though, there are plenty of useless 'Engineers', like MPS, and other dodgy "makers", out there doing dreadful work, and ripping people off.
Yeah update the swing arm and linkage to the current design..make a more compact and more powerful motor like ktm have and at least have the tank inside the shrouds like one of those Italian revolution kits...
Really wouldn't take much...
is it racetech that makes a restyle tank and shrouds already?
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