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1/27/2021 6:41 PM

I understand, but I have to wonder if the old MC spec engine would really give up that much to a stock KTM ? After all, it's still a square, mechanical power valved, case reed, carbureted 125cc two stroke engine. What's so much more high tech about it?

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1/27/2021 9:07 PM

Mr. Robinson wrote:

I understand, but I have to wonder if the old MC spec engine would really give up that much to a stock KTM ? After all, it's ...more

From the latest @Ping column:

Ping,

Random question, how would one of your PC race bikes from the 90’s compare to a current 125, or 150?


I would say they probably made a little more power than a stock bike today, but I don’t think they handled as well as a modern bike in stock trim. The Yamaha YZ125, for example, is incredible right out of the box; the Kawasaki’s of that era were not. My last 125 race bike was from 2003, and that’s really when development on two-strokes stopped advancing.

Yes, the stock KTM/Husky/GasGas is faster than the stock bikes from back then. But I have a YZ125 that has a Pro Circuit motor and exhaust on it and it’s almost as fast as any race bike I had, and much faster than a stock 125 of any brand.

I think the peak for 125 development was right around 2000 to 2002; my 2000 Suzuki RM125 and 2002 KTM 125 SX were probably the quickest two 125 race bikes I ever had, including the Pro Circuit bikes from 1995-1997. Like I said, all the brands were still improving every year at that point.

Slowest race bike? My 1998 FMF/Honda made as much horsepower as a vacuum cleaner. And not a good vacuum like a Kirby or a Dyson. If you go to Wal Mart and find the cheapest model that will barely pull lint off the floor, that’s about an apples-to-apples comparison. It handled great, but when you’re going that slow you could be riding a lawn mower and it would seem like it handled well.

The 150 is a completely different bike; it’s amazing what that extra 25cc’s does to the torque and horsepower numbers. It’s too bad we can’t get all the manufacturers to bring back 150cc two-stroke racing… that would be amazing. Thanks for the question… have a great weekend!

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1/28/2021 5:43 AM

Mr. Robinson wrote:

I understand, but I have to wonder if the old MC spec engine would really give up that much to a stock KTM ? After all, it's ...more

I was listening to a Mitch podcast and he said by The Kawi's 95-on they had already far surpassed the early Honda's. Though I agree it would be pretty cool nostalgia wise.cool

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1/28/2021 6:51 AM

Ping said; "I would say they probably made a little more power than a stock bike today"

That's what I'm talking about.

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1/28/2021 3:26 PM

My 1989 CR125:

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1/28/2021 7:19 PM

My Vintage and Post Vintage Girls!!! Photo

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1/30/2021 9:04 PM

Man I sure miss my old 360 Twice-Piper.

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“Adhering to 1970’s Standards of Political Correctness”

2/1/2021 1:10 PM

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2/3/2021 5:59 PM

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2/4/2021 4:41 PM

Vuillemin's '95

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2/6/2021 3:17 AM
Edited Date/Time: 2/6/2021 3:21 AM

I had completely forgotten about the existence of Ancillotti bikes. These are pretty cool actually.

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2/6/2021 9:41 AM

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2/12/2021 11:05 AM

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2/12/2021 11:06 AM

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2/12/2021 11:08 AM

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2/13/2021 5:25 AM

2001 CZ prototype
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2/13/2021 8:24 AM
Edited Date/Time: 2/13/2021 8:28 AM

Is that really a CZ prototype? unsure Looks a lot like a modified TM chassis with a KTM engine to me.

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2/14/2021 11:37 PM

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2/22/2021 10:07 PM

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2/22/2021 10:10 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/23/2021 12:57 PM

Mr. Robinson wrote:

Is that really a CZ prototype? unsure Looks a lot like a modified TM chassis with a KTM engine to me.

Built in ~2000 by employees of the CZ factory long after motorcycle production was stopped. Yes, it does use a KTM 250 engine. Here's some shots from Brad Lackey's visit to the CZ factory in October 2000 where he was shown this "prototype". Photos by Mike Tillman.

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2/23/2021 5:56 AM

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2/28/2021 5:19 PM

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3/4/2021 8:56 AM

Almost done with the 2000 YZ 139 Photo
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3/5/2021 3:39 PM

2021 CR 500

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3/12/2021 11:19 AM

2021 BUD Racing Kawasaki KX 125

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3/14/2021 3:28 AM

WORKS PILOT wrote:

Kyle Lewis 1996 Noleen YZ 250 race bike

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Do you own the noleen yz, would love to get a copy of that seat cover

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3/16/2021 6:44 PM

Finally got the ole girl done.
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3/20/2021 9:31 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/20/2021 9:35 AM

Honda themed 2021 GasGas MC 125

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3/22/2021 1:11 AM

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3/24/2021 7:39 PM

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