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Edited Date/Time 8/31/2017 3:18am
Not sure if this topic has been discussed or the media has shed some news, with both Dungey and Canard both retiring and only Musqujn left on the factory KTM Team who do you think will get signed for 2018 and beyond to race the 450? And do you think KTM would sign two riders ?
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redrider_714 8/29/2017 11:00pm
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They signed Broc Tickle for 2018. It was announced earlier this month.
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redrider_714 wrote:
They signed Broc Tickle for 2018. It was announced earlier this month.
I don't think it's been officially announced by either side yet.

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Not many riders to choose from. If I was KTM I would be looking at a fast 250 guy and try sign him up.

i would choose Bogle over Tickle personally but I'm unsure on there contracts
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Rowlands wrote:
Not many riders to choose from. If I was KTM I would be looking at a fast 250 guy and try sign him up. i would...
Not many riders to choose from. If I was KTM I would be looking at a fast 250 guy and try sign him up.

i would choose Bogle over Tickle personally but I'm unsure on there contracts
Lulwhat? Have there ever been this many great talents without a ride? "Not many riders to choose from".

I dont understand Laughing
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ga_pike 8/30/2017 5:09am
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Ray_MXS wrote:
Lulwhat? Have there ever been this many great talents without a ride? "Not many riders to choose from".

I dont understand Laughing
I think the question is how many guys are available that can actually win and contend for championships? Bogle comes to mind. Maybe Barcia. But outside of Tomac, Musquin, Roczen, Baggett, Anderson, and Webb... who else would really be a championship contender? Now, there are lots of 5-10th place guys... but real top 3 guys?

And that's not a knock... but all the true top 3 guys are already signed except 2.
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be careful when speaking of ktm this whole thread could be deleted
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Ray_MXS 8/30/2017 5:44am
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I think the question is how many guys are available that can actually win and contend for championships? Bogle comes to mind. Maybe Barcia. But outside...
I think the question is how many guys are available that can actually win and contend for championships? Bogle comes to mind. Maybe Barcia. But outside of Tomac, Musquin, Roczen, Baggett, Anderson, and Webb... who else would really be a championship contender? Now, there are lots of 5-10th place guys... but real top 3 guys?

And that's not a knock... but all the true top 3 guys are already signed except 2.
First of all they already have one of the best title contenders in both MX and SX already and a team pretty much always only has one championship contender and one "second rider" who might get some nice finishes and even race wins but isnt really ready for a championship.

Also I dont really agree with Webb on the same list as those other guys.

I could probably tierlist the riders.

Tier 1:
Tomac
Musquin
Roczen

Tier 2
Baggett
Anderson

Tier 3
Bogle
Tickle
Wilson
Seely
Webb
Grant
Peick
Craig
Barcia

Tier 4
Noren
Miller
Bisceglia
Bloss
Nicoletti

Etc etc but you get my point.

I would say that a championship is heavily favored for the Tier 1 riders and those are who will get the majority of the wins throughout a season
The Tier 2 guys are those who are able to win on any given weekend but hasnt shown consistency enough for a championship
Tier 3 is where people ended up that can get podiums ,or even when the stars align wins, but doesnt really have a real shot at a full championship. Mostly these fill up 4-10 spots.
Tier 4 is rider who usually ends up somewhere 10-15 but on a good day can advance into the top 10 or even the top 5.

A top factory team would optimally want one championship rider from tiers 1-2 and one "support" rider from tier 3.

This is of course VERY subjective of course and just my uneducated idea of how these riders compare at THIS MOMENT.
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tcallahan707 8/30/2017 5:48am
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ga_pike wrote:
I think the question is how many guys are available that can actually win and contend for championships? Bogle comes to mind. Maybe Barcia. But outside...
I think the question is how many guys are available that can actually win and contend for championships? Bogle comes to mind. Maybe Barcia. But outside of Tomac, Musquin, Roczen, Baggett, Anderson, and Webb... who else would really be a championship contender? Now, there are lots of 5-10th place guys... but real top 3 guys?

And that's not a knock... but all the true top 3 guys are already signed except 2.
Ray_MXS wrote:
First of all they already have one of the best title contenders in both MX and SX already and a team pretty much always only has...
First of all they already have one of the best title contenders in both MX and SX already and a team pretty much always only has one championship contender and one "second rider" who might get some nice finishes and even race wins but isnt really ready for a championship.

Also I dont really agree with Webb on the same list as those other guys.

I could probably tierlist the riders.

Tier 1:
Tomac
Musquin
Roczen

Tier 2
Baggett
Anderson

Tier 3
Bogle
Tickle
Wilson
Seely
Webb
Grant
Peick
Craig
Barcia

Tier 4
Noren
Miller
Bisceglia
Bloss
Nicoletti

Etc etc but you get my point.

I would say that a championship is heavily favored for the Tier 1 riders and those are who will get the majority of the wins throughout a season
The Tier 2 guys are those who are able to win on any given weekend but hasnt shown consistency enough for a championship
Tier 3 is where people ended up that can get podiums ,or even when the stars align wins, but doesnt really have a real shot at a full championship. Mostly these fill up 4-10 spots.
Tier 4 is rider who usually ends up somewhere 10-15 but on a good day can advance into the top 10 or even the top 5.

A top factory team would optimally want one championship rider from tiers 1-2 and one "support" rider from tier 3.

This is of course VERY subjective of course and just my uneducated idea of how these riders compare at THIS MOMENT.
I'd say this is pretty accurate. I'm glad you said something about Webb too. It was the first thing that stood out when I read it.
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Rowlands 8/30/2017 6:48am
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Ray_MXS wrote:
Lulwhat? Have there ever been this many great talents without a ride? "Not many riders to choose from".

I dont understand Laughing
Yeah, I was referring to somebody who is worth while on arguably the best 450 team there is.

It's clear as you have posted in the above that none of the tier 3 riders are able to win a championship or get regular podiums.

Bogle would be my choice. If you where team manger which rider would you like on KTM factory team ?
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Ray_MXS 8/30/2017 7:08am
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Rowlands wrote:
Yeah, I was referring to somebody who is worth while on arguably the best 450 team there is. It's clear as you have posted in the...
Yeah, I was referring to somebody who is worth while on arguably the best 450 team there is.

It's clear as you have posted in the above that none of the tier 3 riders are able to win a championship or get regular podiums.

Bogle would be my choice. If you where team manger which rider would you like on KTM factory team ?
Out of the ones "available" Bogle is a nice choice but so is Tickle.
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Rowlands wrote:
Not many riders to choose from. If I was KTM I would be looking at a fast 250 guy and try sign him up. i would...
Not many riders to choose from. If I was KTM I would be looking at a fast 250 guy and try sign him up.

i would choose Bogle over Tickle personally but I'm unsure on there contracts
Snag Plessinger for 2019. I think he's going to kill it on 450s
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Ray_MXS 8/30/2017 8:05am
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downard254 wrote:
Snag Plessinger for 2019. I think he's going to kill it on 450s
Yeah last year I would agree that Aaron looked like the next big thing but it never really took off and this year he's faded at times even when he had the starts...

Myself I would like to see Mcelrath on a 450. I think he'd kill it
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kiwifan 8/30/2017 1:58pm
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Rowlands wrote:
Not many riders to choose from. If I was KTM I would be looking at a fast 250 guy and try sign him up. i would...
Not many riders to choose from. If I was KTM I would be looking at a fast 250 guy and try sign him up.

i would choose Bogle over Tickle personally but I'm unsure on there contracts
downard254 wrote:
Snag Plessinger for 2019. I think he's going to kill it on 450s
that was my prediction for 2019 too
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mxgoon wrote:
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Hmmm?!?!



That's got latestmxvideos written all over...
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Rowlands wrote:
Not many riders to choose from. If I was KTM I would be looking at a fast 250 guy and try sign him up. i would...
Not many riders to choose from. If I was KTM I would be looking at a fast 250 guy and try sign him up.

i would choose Bogle over Tickle personally but I'm unsure on there contracts
downard254 wrote:
Snag Plessinger for 2019. I think he's going to kill it on 450s
kiwifan wrote:
that was my prediction for 2019 too
Well Kiwi, we must both be smart sums-a-beeches if we were both thinking the same thing. I feel like AP over rides the 250 and the 450 would allow him to relax a little more. Just a feeling but I honestly feel like when he moves up his game will elevate
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mxgoon wrote:
Hmmm?!?! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/08/30/212211/s1200_20953349_10154653788191890_2991086076185027071_n.jpg[/img]
Hmmm?!?!



ti473 wrote:
That's got latestmxvideos written all over...
That's got latestmxvideos written all over...
Haha man that site has me cringing most days !

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