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11/6/2016 5:52 PM

Tom White's DUCATI 450R/T DESMO (1971)

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11/6/2016 6:22 PM



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11/6/2016 6:35 PM

That Ducati may be cool but this thread will never Kick Ass.

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11/6/2016 6:44 PM

olds cool wrote:

That Ducati may be cool but this thread will never Kick Ass.

Of course it ain't kick ass, it's fabulous!


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11/6/2016 6:46 PM
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I sold one of these engines for next to nothing. Thought I made serious money back when I sold it.

I need to track one of these bikes down here locally. I do believe there is one still in the crate.




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11/6/2016 9:14 PM
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Those ccm's are flat out stunning. That Duc is pretty cool. My old man has one(scrambler) blown apart in a couple different boxes... I tried to buy it when I was working for Ducati. No dice. If I remember right the only reason he took it apart was to repair the bevel gears.

“Scrub as hard as you want. It’s a two-stroke, it’ll come back” - Robby Marshall

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11/6/2016 10:36 PM

Bob Allen Restoration, ESO 500 Motocross

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Before,



“Adhering to 1970’s Standards of Political Correctness”

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11/7/2016 1:38 AM

You mean there were 4 strokes before the late 90's?!
That CCM looks so nice!

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11/7/2016 3:52 AM

newmann wrote:

I sold one of these engines for next to nothing. Thought I made serious money back when I sold it.

I need to track one of these bikes down here locally. I do believe there is one still in the crate.




Right side shifters will give a guy a serious mind fucking.

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11/7/2016 6:50 AM

Andy_Greenney wrote:

You mean there were 4 strokes before the late 90's?!
That CCM looks so nice!

Yep until 2 strokes dethroned them with no displacement rules.

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11/7/2016 7:01 AM

rrjr wrote:

Tom White's DUCATI 450R/T DESMO (1971)

Did they have desmodromic valve trains?

Jason Anderson FTW

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11/7/2016 7:10 AM
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Not mine but I have my first bike just like it sitting in boxes waiting for time to restore
In my opinion the most important 4 stroke dirt bike of all time.

What?

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11/7/2016 7:10 AM

rrjr wrote:

Tom White's DUCATI 450R/T DESMO (1971)

BobPA wrote:

Did they have desmodromic valve trains?

With bevel drive gears.

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11/7/2016 7:13 AM

RandyS wrote:

Not mine but I have my first bike just like it sitting in boxes waiting for time to restore
In my opinion the most important 4 stroke dirt bike of all time.

Doper down the street had a candy red one. I remember it well! He was pulling me and my brother down the street in a red wagon and took us straight through a huge pothole in the road. The ensuing crash took a rather nasty looking chunk out of my knee cap. Like they say, it's all fun until someone starts bleeding.

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11/7/2016 7:56 AM
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If you've got time, there's over a hundred pages and 1100 pictures of vintage 4 strokes right here...
http://www.leguidevert.com/_V6/viewtopic.php?id=144018&p=1

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11/7/2016 8:41 AM

RandyS wrote:

Not mine but I have my first bike just like it sitting in boxes waiting for time to restore
In my opinion the most important 4 stroke dirt bike of all time.

newmann wrote:

Doper down the street had a candy red one. I remember it well! He was pulling me and my brother down the street in a red wagon and took us straight through a huge pothole in the road. The ensuing crash took a rather nasty looking chunk out of my knee cap. Like they say, it's all fun until someone starts bleeding.

I can't understand why i sold my Honda Monkey. Yes mine was far from stock but i really loved to build it and ride it on the streets.





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11/7/2016 11:28 AM

Andy_Greenney wrote:

You mean there were 4 strokes before the late 90's?!
That CCM looks so nice!

kott0n wrote:

Yep until 2 strokes dethroned them with no displacement rules.

I think you mean because OF displacement rules.

On an equal cc footing, 2-strokes absolutely annihilated thumpers.

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11/7/2016 11:41 AM

C'mon, please, noooooot agaaaaaaaaaain!!!

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11/7/2016 12:01 PM
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Is this going to end up about freedom of speech or trademark infringement again?

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11/7/2016 2:13 PM

philG wrote:

This is gonna be a dumb question. I had a VOR for a short time. It sure looked a lot like a Vertemati. Are they related in any way?

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11/7/2016 3:04 PM

You have the answer right here...
http://www.vertemati.com/en/main/

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11/7/2016 3:24 PM

kzizok wrote:

This is gonna be a dumb question. I had a VOR for a short time. It sure looked a lot like a Vertemati. Are they related in any way?

Not even slightly dumb.

The Vertemati brothers built and developed the Vertemati bike over 4 or 5 years, in GP's and started to sell the bikes in1998, but the funding behind it wasnt good, and the business was taken over by VOR..

The OP's link tells the official story.

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11/7/2016 4:22 PM

newmann wrote:

I sold one of these engines for next to nothing. Thought I made serious money back when I sold it.

I need to track one of these bikes down here locally. I do believe there is one still in the crate.




Ah SHIT!!!
I always loved the later CCMs.

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11/7/2016 4:40 PM

newmann wrote:

I sold one of these engines for next to nothing. Thought I made serious money back when I sold it.

I need to track one of these bikes down here locally. I do believe there is one still in the crate.




tydog wrote:

Ah SHIT!!!
I always loved the later CCMs.

No worries Tydog, I have a monster big bore TT500 engine under the workbench I will give you for a .....oh, ummm wait...

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11/7/2016 4:42 PM

^^^C-Rock and PhilG,

Thanks for the replies with the link and info. Interesting stuff. I have to admit the VOR was very unusual, in many ways, but I like different sometimes!

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11/7/2016 4:55 PM

philG wrote:

Bad ass!!

“Scrub as hard as you want. It’s a two-stroke, it’ll come back” - Robby Marshall

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11/7/2016 10:32 PM

newmann wrote:

No worries Tydog, I have a monster big bore TT500 engine under the workbench I will give you for a .....oh, ummm wait...

Still on my to do list!