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I could kill my neighbors and turn their land into an MX track, but I doubt many folks here would think that's a good idea just because it means more moto.
The guy is being charged for what, building on a wetland? Or not paying proper taxes for having others ride his track? Lastly maybe some noise complaints?
Its a track, in the country, not on wetland that has been backed up by several to only be used during respectable hours. How is this worthy of putting him in jail and shutting down his personal track?
I am open to discussing this with you or anyone, and I have made my position clear I think this is nuts how the local board has come after him. I am willing to hear yours or other sides though, gather more info and possibly even change my opinion, I get that, its just with what I have read so far, I still think this is nuts and the guy should be free and riding his track right now.
The Shop
"The members of the county planning board have all disappeared...without a trace. Nobody knows what happened."
Boy it's a great day at the track...and doesn't that new whoop section look nice.
ALL government is totally out of control, corrupt and inept.
Unfortunately, these people aren't neutered...
They all deserve what is coming.... ...and it's comin fast.
Whatcom County
I am guessing something changed between when the previous owner used the track and when this guy used the track.
The court document tells a very different tale also.
There is always 3 sides to every story, both arguments and the truth.
And again, I don’t see how jail is appropriate.
Pit Row
Not sure what Danny was doing, as I stopped riding there a little while before Wayne lost the place. Sad deal all the way around.
I will also say that in the 90’s/early 2000’s, there were very few places anywhere that I’d rather be. The track was unbelievable, and the fun we had as a group of folks riding there and hanging out afterwards I will remember forever.
If yall dont fight for this guy, those of you that live near there you are a bunch of assholes and should never ride another bike!!
Go to the next city council meeting raise up your voices. Stop this BS. Run against these people in upcoming elections. Damn do something.
You would be surprised what 30 people protesting can accomplish
I was surprised to see what appears to be the track, in among trees. A great set up for an owner to control noise and dust, and have some privacy.
Then I clicked on the address of - I assume- the complainant. Using the map scale, it looks to be about 120meters from their house to the track. Their house was set back from the road, as was the Track in the trees.
Even with the trees, with 4ts, and a few of them there, I'd say the complainants would have to deal with a fair bit of noise.
A family, with few bikes out there, for short amounts of time, I, as a MC rider, could probably handle it. But, with a group, say 10 / 20, going for (even a few) hours at a time, it would drive me up the wall.
So, which of those 2 scenarios are what's happening? I can't imagine the bloke was thrown straight into the clink, first complaint.
I echo much of what CM-84 put forward.
In my little piece of paradise in suburbia, between a river and the mountains, I have had the luxury of being able to ride less than a K, and into the bush and mountains, for decades now. But, I do so on registered / plated bikes, that I make Quiet, and, stay away from areas that walkers / horse riders and fellow MTBers frequent. So, I have no real problems. But, periodically, we get some d**kheads riding incredibly noisy bikes and / or riding like complete Drongos, that piss off residents and recreators etc, and bring down the Police Trail Bike Squad. Me, licensed, rego'd, Quiet = I have no problems. It also helps to know the cops / TB squad.
I followed 2 young blokes out of the bush, me on my CRE, back into my suburb the other day - both with full race pipes, both playing 'wheelie boy' once they got onto the streets. One with just race numbers, one with (it turned out) non legit plates. A few Ks through the quiet suburban streets, with their bellowing bikes and attention seeking riding. Once they pulled into their drive, I had a friendly word to them, and, their Dad, when he saw me quietly talking with his boys. They / he just didn't seem to grasp the risks they were taking. I specifically informed them of the Financial Risks - it's what seems to get most peoples attention. Get caught without rego, insurance and license, and you are up for Thousands in fines, and, it will delay you getting a license to drive, in many cases, for young people on the verge of getting a license. I was trying to help them Not get nailed, but, also myself and other responsible riders in the area, as the ratbags / 'unknowing' transgressors, really ruin things for others. And, themselves.
When two strokes ruled, it was actually very quiet. Four-strokes definitely upped the noise, but even so, the woods filtered out the noise a lot. You could only hear the bikes clearly when riders were on the front track closest to the shop and when they hit a big tabletop on the SW corner.
The north track used to be the “old timer” track, so it wasn’t used as much and generally by riders who weren’t making as much noise. Further, it wasn’t rideable in late fall-spring due to the dirt. Conversely, the front track wasn’t ridden much from late spring/early summer through fall as it was deep sand and loam, with the only way to water being to lug pumps out and use fire hoses ...I did it once and was too tired to ride lol.
Even taking my bias towards motocross into account, I don’t feel like it was even remotely noisy. The one big whiner I know of didn’t even live on his side of the road-he was across Hemmi (south side) and down to the west if memory serves. He moved in sometime in the late 90’s (+/-) and was a whiny little twit from day one. Probably complains about cows too.
I can’t say how Danny was running it. Only know him by name, not in person. But the feedback I got from friends (who still rode there) wasn’t that he was running it substantially different than Wayne.
For those who don’t believe that the government would’ve gone from 0-100 on this, I would offer that I’ve seen it.
When councils get complaints, particularly about a political hot potato like ORV recreation, it’s always politically prudent to stand on the side of the greenies. They will employ every government weapon in shutting it down, because the anti-ORV folks are great at making more political noise than us.
I've been going to Woods Races for 30+ years and what your saying makes zero sense to me based on what I've seen.
When you are in the woods are there no elevations? Because that does more than the trees will. There are so many factors from tree/bush type to basal area to canopy heights and types and on and on.
That's just my experience with living/working/ hunting/riding in the woods all my life. Your experience may vary 😁.
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