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henry zweers
4/25/2013 9:05am
4/25/2013 9:05am
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4/29/2013 11:50am
The gp's have like 33 mx2 and 20 mx1 riders, now there is a change in the emx programe.
2 free trainings 2quali trainings 2 qualifing race's and 1 lcq and on sunday 1 heat race live on tv.
This is all becouse of the number of riders, in the (Cheaper) class
In Portugal there will be 69 riders try to qualifi in the 125 2stroke and 94 in the Emx2
http://www.motocrossmx1.com/?type=News&newsID=3355&title=New%20EMX125%2…
2 free trainings 2quali trainings 2 qualifing race's and 1 lcq and on sunday 1 heat race live on tv.
This is all becouse of the number of riders, in the (Cheaper) class
In Portugal there will be 69 riders try to qualifi in the 125 2stroke and 94 in the Emx2
http://www.motocrossmx1.com/?type=News&newsID=3355&title=New%20EMX125%2…
First four strokes got so many practice areas and tracks in trouble with their neighbors due to sound issues then the high investment/maintenance costs combined with the US economy have seriously impacted rider turnouts at tracks everywhere.
Way too much focus on little Johnny becoming the next SX/MX champion and not enough support for basic grass roots programs IMHO. I can't imagine how many bikes are parked out there collecting dust.
By the time the industry all of this out unfortunately it might be too late.
b) EMX250: motorcycles of Cat. I, Group A1, up to 125cc for 2-stroke engines and over 175cc up to 250cc for 4-stroke engine.
c) EMX 125: motorcycles of Cat. I, Group A1, up to 125cc for 2-stroke engines
What are folks running in EMX2? Not to kick the dog on the two stroke issue, but are the entries driven by cheaper bikes or just that the cost of entry and of running the European championship is cheaper than running the GPs? Are there guys running EMX2 that were in on the GPs a couple years ago?
running the emx series is cheaper, for a team, and has no age limit. and the gp entry is like 1500 for 1 gp
the Emx has a entry of around 300 if i am corect.
Regarding the rules being the same the biggest contrast is you don't see any two stroke races during the Nationals on Saturdays. Why can't we hold the US equivalent of EMX before and after the Nationals on Saturday so there isn't any impact on the TV coverage?
In any event for the life of me I don't get the "there isn't enough time" argument considering it doesn't get dark until 8 to 9 PM in the summer when the Nationals are held..
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everyone can ride 2 heats. and the racing is over at 6
The machines have the same 125 two stroke/250 four stroke rules as MX2, but are the guys staking the 250 four strokes and not using the 125's as in MX2 and here in the 250 class at the Outdoors? 94 riders is a ton, almost half again as many as in the EMX1 class. I'm sure some of it may be that there is more opportunity than with EMX1's age 17 limit, but the cost barrier seems to be a lot less about what type of engine it is and more about the participation cost.
Anyone know the entry fee difference between EMX125 and EMX2? What about travel schedule in relation to one another? I know both classes are not always together at a GP weekend. Some weekends it's 125 and others EMX2.
Overall though you get the impression that there are less teams and riders that has the money to attend all the GP's. When they still want to race internationally EMX2 and EMX125 are the best option since MX3 is a total joke.
I still think MX2(GP) is pretty healthy despite the 23yo rule. MX1 however needs at least 8-10 more riders everything else is embarassing.
All the smaller teams and riders turn back up.
One day youthstream will stop claiming riders/team are frightened of entering GP's due to the speeds and realise its down to the horrific entry fee.....
Carry on with the two stroke circle jerk........
I agree with thertoad, MX3 is a complete waste of time, money and resources. Not only does it spread the wealth, it seems an pretty pointless championship with very little significance. Dissolving it would hopefully channel the efforts of riders, teams & sponsors back into the GPs where they should be.
""but who has to carry the can for two GP motos tomorrow when every starter will score world championship points ? YS CEO Giuseppe Luongo was already insistent at the opening GP in Qatar: "The industry wanted 107% and I had to fight to even get 108%."
And that is why there were only 20 arrivals for the Bulgarian MX1 GP; who else was going to risk the travel costs and a grand inscription fee with the chance of no work after two training sessions""
There are also great national series in the Netherlands en Italia for 125 youth. And 300 euro per race, makes prox 150K in a year is also great business for Luongo. But it's a great series at nice tracks for young riders to get familiar with the GP series.
250EMX is great for riders who doesn't have the funding (and speed) to buy a seat in MX2 gp, race the same tracks (8 races). But if the GP's were healthy (80% of) this riders would try to qualify for MX2 gp.
Pit Row
As it is now it's quite bizarre with a beautiful paddock à la F1 style, lot's of commercial stuff from monster but hardly any riders...add some grey skys and rain and you really get a feeling the end is near...
And what I guess I am trying to get is why and whether there's anything to learn, because it sure looks like its not the parts/maintenance cost, but the cost of buying in.
Are there guys in emx2 that are lapping within the108% range of mx2 or mx1?
But no doubt, Joe, they are pulling a good field of u18 kids on 125s.
1.Riders can enter freely the GP or the European Championship, but up until today the riders go from the European Championship to the GP and not the opposite. The list of riders who race in EMX125 / EMX250 are all young riders, there is only 1 rider who is 25 years-old.. Thanks to the large number of riders coming from the European Championship and the very demanding and technical race tracks, today the level of the MX1 and MX2 World Championships are very high and for this reason the young riders prefer to make 1 or 2 seasons in EMX125, then 1 or 2 seasons in EMX250 and then the best ones go to MX2.
2.There is no difference between the EMX125 and EMX250 – they both pay €300 and both are on live TV.
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