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I Hope this is something being Discussed By promoters, it seems like its been getting worse the last few years and needs to be addressed or revisited or revised or something , i think the rule is just re enter the track at the soonest place you think is safe , but riders are taking advantage of the rule it seems, if a rider chrashes or goes off the track for another reason , they Are holding it wide open along side of the track while they look For a safe place to Re enter , and i get it that they are trying not to lose time , but imo if you make a mistake than you should lose some time ,
Imo it should be enter the track exactly where you went off
Or within 20 feet , even if you have to stop and do a U turn.
Imo it should be enter the track exactly where you went off
Or within 20 feet , even if you have to stop and do a U turn.
Poll
It's not the riders fault that the AMA is inconsistent with their penalties.
Would be an idea worth looking into also
I have a hard time with this because on one hand there needs to be hard and fast rules so there is consistency. On the other, we are talking about guys crashing dirt bikes on an obstacle filled course, so some discretion needs to be used.
The Shop
Look at Vegas 2017 when Tomac stuffs Dungey before the triple. I feel like Dungey could have stayed on the track but then he would have been forced to roll the triple, coating him a lot of time. By leaving the track he was able to pin it and lose zero time (even allowing him to take Tomac wide in the folllowing 90 degree turn, if I recall correctly).
I like the idea of designated re-entry points. Riders would have to proceed safely to those points, then re-enter only in those areas. The track designers could build safe re-entry zones right into the track designs.
Slow down and stay on the track, probably having to roll a lot of jumps in the upcoming section, or pin it along side the track, skip the section, and re-enter at the end of it, not losing any time. Option B obviously since they won't enforce it.
Look at Barcia at Ironman in the mud just this past season. He crashes in the corner leading into the rollers. He's going to lose a lot of time here. No momentum in the mud entering the rollers. Nope. He just points his front tire off the track, pins it down the side of the rollers, regains his speed, then re-enters.
It's an absolute joke the way it is now. Harsh penalties need to be imposed on those who break the rules.
Here's my solution.
If you go off the track, you have two options. One of which carries no penalty and one which carries a harsh one.
Re-enter where you went off. If that means you have to wait awhile for a safe time to re-enter, then that's the way it is. Some leeway will be given here. You don't have to enter right on the landing of the triple. If you just roll along the side super slow and then immediately turn to re-enter then that's fine. Etc.
Option two is that you re-enter at what you deem as the next safest point while knowing you will get a penalty. The penalty will be as follows. X amount of seconds added to the end of your race time calculated by your average time throughout the race through the section that you skipped, plus an extra five seconds(SX) or ten seconds(MX). Furthermore, any positions the race officials deem that you saved or gained during this off track excursion will be added as well.
For example, if you are in a SX race and go off the track before the rhythm section with three guys right on your tail and pin it down the side of the track and stay in front of them and you finish second on the night, your penalty will go something like this: Average time the rhythm section took you throughout the race was seven seconds. That's added to your final race time. Then an additional five seconds are added. Now we are up to twelve seconds added to your final time. Then we go ahead and take away the three positions that the officials deem you saved there by pinning it down the side of the track. Your final punishment and official results would be twelve seconds taken away from your final time. Let's say that puts you to sixth position. Then three are added for your final finishing position coming in at ninth place.
I haven't figured out a way to rule it and make it work. So I have nhothing.
Pit Row
Maybe there should be a speed limit? But that would be hard to enforce.
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