Emil Weckman's 2018 RM125 Prototype?

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I have no idea who Emil Weckman is, but he/she built a pretty damn nice bike.
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How is this a prototype? Looks more like an AF build than something directly from Suzuki. If it is from Suzuki I highly doubt pictures would be floating around and found so easily.
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So an 06 engine in a 12 frame makes it an 18? Lol.

Nice bike, and I am sure great craftsmanship, but the steel rm125s were great bikes
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So an 06 engine in a 12 frame makes it an 18? Lol. Nice bike, and I am sure great craftsmanship, but the steel rm125s were...
So an 06 engine in a 12 frame makes it an 18? Lol.

Nice bike, and I am sure great craftsmanship, but the steel rm125s were great bikes
Your probably right but why would a top level prospect put together a one off bike? Anyone have any info from the race in Italy last weekend? I believe there was another rider in the same class on a Suzuki also.

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1/30/2017 9:18pm Edited Date/Time 1/30/2017 9:26pm
Emil Weckman :

2 x EMX 150f Champion ( I've little time for the class itself, it being a sop to Honda, complete with the moronic presenting of the Manufacturers Trophy at each round - but the Kid(s) themselves are alright by me).

My assumption was that he earned 1 or perhaps 2 seasons of backing by Honda in EMX250, with winning the series.

To walk away from that, to get on a 125, shows a hell of a commitment to his development as a rider. I can't imagine Honda will 'hold' his won backing for when he goes to 250s, though, wonders may never cease.

He looked like he sprouted a bit in the last few months whilst up on the dias after getting third on the weekend . But, as he was besides Gianlucca Fachetti, that might have just been an illusion.

He's an impressive young bloke, a great rider, and he handles the after race interviews better than many long time Pros.

MBR here, a fellow Finn(?) I think has been fairly involved with the young blokes efforts.
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1/30/2017 10:47pm Edited Date/Time 1/30/2017 10:48pm
Yep, it is not a prototype, just a RMZ250 with RM125 engine the Iller Aldini build.

Emil has grown about 5 cm in just a few months, but his dad is quite short so he probably won't be over 170 cm ever. We won the EMX150 series twice with him along with him. Emil is a nice guy and the hardest working junior rider I have ever met, so barring the injury he will be championship contender where ever he goes.

About the EMX150 series, it is really good place for these kids to show what they are made of in front of all the EMX & MXGP teams without spending a fortune. When everyone is riding equal equipment the rider makes all the difference. Without EMX150 series Emil would not have had chance to race in Europe due economical reasons and now after proving his speed there, Emil had a few manufacturers after him with multi year contracts.

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Posted this in the other thread too. Looks different to me. Or, maybe its just me.



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That one looks the same just with different color plastic. The pipe looks different also so who knows. Maybe it's a different bike but I don't think it's straight from Suzuki.
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I hope the bike will be competitive against the KTMs, Huskys and Yamahas in the EMX125 class.

The dude is such a talented and hard working guy that he will do great things in the future.
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MBR wrote:
Yep, it is not a prototype, just a RMZ250 with RM125 engine the Iller Aldini build. Emil has grown about 5 cm in just a few...
Yep, it is not a prototype, just a RMZ250 with RM125 engine the Iller Aldini build.

Emil has grown about 5 cm in just a few months, but his dad is quite short so he probably won't be over 170 cm ever. We won the EMX150 series twice with him along with him. Emil is a nice guy and the hardest working junior rider I have ever met, so barring the injury he will be championship contender where ever he goes.

About the EMX150 series, it is really good place for these kids to show what they are made of in front of all the EMX & MXGP teams without spending a fortune. When everyone is riding equal equipment the rider makes all the difference. Without EMX150 series Emil would not have had chance to race in Europe due economical reasons and now after proving his speed there, Emil had a few manufacturers after him with multi year contracts.

When you mean economical reasons, is it because Finland is farther away then most of the mx scene there or because it is getting so expensive to do mx in Finland?
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Without a doubt, MBR ,the 150f series looks to be quite a bargain for competitors, and their backers.

But, I have to admit - well, I've always said - I despise Honda's 'purchase' of a class. I'd rather see them cut the BS, and compete with other manufacturers and make 85s and 125s again. But, we all know that isn't ever going to happen : Honda = All Four Stroke, All the Time.

PS - I own and ride a few Hondas, among various other brands, so this does not come from the perspective of a 'Brand Boi'.

Are you able to shed some light on Emil's seeming walking away from the EMX 250 Honda support, other than the entirely logical thing of his size and transitioning through the classes? 125 racing is a great thing to go through, and to assist the sports health.
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When you mean economical reasons, is it because Finland is farther away then most of the mx scene there or because it is getting so expensive...
When you mean economical reasons, is it because Finland is farther away then most of the mx scene there or because it is getting so expensive to do mx in Finland?
Both, but especially the traveling to races and back is really expensive from Finland or you have to live abroad. Emil has now moved to Italy with the team (his family stays in here) and been in Finland only few weeks since October. Also we couldn't have got the budget for him from the sponsors to race internationally without the EMX150 series and for the 2016 the Honda Europe provided him with bikes and we took care of the rest with Finnish Honda.

As far as the decision to go ride Suzuki, I really don't know what they were thinking but I feel it was his managers idea. I talked with his dad on Sunday and seems that things could change in a hurry...
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kzizok wrote:
Posted this in the other thread too. Looks different to me. Or, maybe its just me. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/01/30/172764/s1200_IMG_2595.jpg[/img]
Posted this in the other thread too. Looks different to me. Or, maybe its just me.



That might be the same bike but the shrouds and side plates are totally different. Maybe there is something to this.
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The team got 3 Prototypes, I guess from Japan. Now they are developing them pretty much on there own but Japan is still in touch, just to be in the loop. In 2018 the RM125 will be in the catalogue of Suzuki. Stamp It!
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kzizok wrote:
Posted this in the other thread too. Looks different to me. Or, maybe its just me. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/01/30/172764/s1200_IMG_2595.jpg[/img]
Posted this in the other thread too. Looks different to me. Or, maybe its just me.



RandyS wrote:
That might be the same bike but the shrouds and side plates are totally different. Maybe there is something to this.
yep and the front fender id different too
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Jett lawrence who rides for everts will need one next year too.
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I think he did 3-4 years deal to race Italian (J-tech?) team that was Honda supported team before and now gets some help from Suzuki. Young rider going first EMX125 before going EMX250 serie. Here and there are hints Suzuki bringing back 125cc next year but who knows.
Motors can come from Suzuki as I have seen some Yamaha "Team" engines and different frames for YZ125 that look almost like production ones but are team only stuff.
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MXMattii wrote:
The team got 3 Prototypes, I guess from Japan. Now they are developing them pretty much on there own but Japan is still in touch, just...
The team got 3 Prototypes, I guess from Japan. Now they are developing them pretty much on there own but Japan is still in touch, just to be in the loop. In 2018 the RM125 will be in the catalogue of Suzuki. Stamp It!
I hope you are correct. When the manufacturers voted for 125 class at Lorettas Kawasaki and Suzuki voted yes. Time will tell...
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Tin Foil Hat time!

Emil is riding the EMX125 series, in prep for his move to the EMX250 series, where Suzuki will have him on a new 250 2 stroke Woohoo

And, by the time he moves up to MX2, the BS rules will have been dropped, and there will be equivalency in all Pro Level racing. I forget how old Emil is, but if the 23 yr old rule is still in place then (another BS rule that needs to die), it might be as many as 7 years away until he would be forced up to MXGP.

Hey, I might have just started a bit of BS, myself. Does that mean I'm now a fully fledged 'Vitard' ?Blush

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