Electric 50's at LL's in 2019

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3/9/2018 1:13 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/9/2018 1:15 PM

The AMA is currently working on a deal to allow new electric bikes from KTM, Yamaha and apparently Cobra race in 2019 at Loretta's. They are supposed to debut the bikes this summer at Loretta's. It seems the electric movement is happening and it will start with the youth.

From a competition standpoint racing is racing so you could care less if the bike is making noise. On the flip side if you take the motor sound out of it I don't if you will still draw the crowds or fill stadiums?

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3/9/2018 1:21 PM

We will see because it’s the future...no ifs or buts. Personally I’m looking forward to being able to ride anywhere within 2 hours of where I live

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3/9/2018 1:48 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/9/2018 1:49 PM

Yep, definitely the future. Method of propulsion doesn't matter to me as long as I'm on 2 wheels, hell I even like rolling down a gnarly track on my MTB, no noise there just my groans.

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3/9/2018 1:56 PM

Dropbear wrote:

Yep, definitely the future. Method of propulsion doesn't matter to me as long as I'm on 2 wheels, hell I even like rolling ...more

The silence and peace of a mountain bike in the woods is just as hypnotic as the schriek of a 125.

They had a 4 e bike race after the MotoGP race at Indy a few years ago. It sucked to watch, but the bikes were at least 10 seconds apart and it followed some of the coolest engine sounds ever produced.

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3/9/2018 2:07 PM

brocsdad wrote:

The AMA is currently working on a deal to allow new electric bikes from KTM, Yamaha and apparently Cobra race in 2019 at ...more

I wouldn't attend an sx or national if it was electric bikes. The sound of these gnarly factory motors if part of what I enjoy. For me, if the sound goes I might as well go watch a local BMX race or MTB race.

Everyone keeps talking about the noise and being able to ride in their backyards or possible inner city tracks, but around my area noise might be the biggest complaint and dust is a very very close second. A local pro had a track at his house and talked to the neighbors before building it with agreed upon ride times. One of the neighbors didn't have an issue with the noise from him riding, but hated the dust even though they kept the track as watered as they possibly could. Dust never seems to get brought up in the electric bike discussion(at least not that I've seen)

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3/9/2018 2:16 PM

Andy_Greenney wrote:

We will see because it’s the future...no ifs or buts. Personally I’m looking forward to being able to ride anywhere within 2 ...more

Wonder if they said the same thing about electric cars a hundred years ago? Here we are more than a century later and electric cars take up less than a half percent of what's out there. I'm very excited for e-moto to advance, but they won't be the future in our lifetime. For fun: http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/223/electric-car-timeline.html

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3/9/2018 2:24 PM

byke wrote:

Wonder if they said the same thing about electric cars a hundred years ago? Here we are more than a century later and electric ...more

They probably said the same about cars, there you go fixed it for you.

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3/9/2018 2:27 PM

Never would have gotten into the sport if it wasn't for screaming engines. Or anything else for that matter.

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3/9/2018 2:28 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/9/2018 2:31 PM

I wonder if the internal combustion engine was invented today, would it even be legal? Poison gas pump. Just thinking in words. Don't get me wrong, I love me 2 strokes

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3/9/2018 2:39 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/9/2018 2:51 PM

The electric PW50-type bikes are really a no-brainer market. There is no single advantage that I can think of there with the internal combustion engine.

On the flip-side, the tuneability/governability of electric with digital processing is far superior for shrinking down or growing with a developing rider. With electric, there's no starting, flooding, or killing the bike for dad to have to deal with. Those things are frustrating distractions to riding for the youngest age groups, even on bikes with electric-start. Kid can just gear up and go. And the literal "plug and play" prep routine is ideal.

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3/9/2018 2:47 PM

Cheap Electric 50's will bring a new crowd to our sport. People who would never give their kids a bike, will now. And then we will see how it develops from there.

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3/9/2018 2:54 PM

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3/9/2018 2:56 PM

MXMattii wrote:

Cheap Electric 50's will bring a new crowd to our sport. People who would never give their kids a bike, will now. And then we ...more

Great the ER's will be more full of kids and the tracks will get sued because the parents didn't realize it was dangerous!

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3/9/2018 2:56 PM

MXMattii wrote:

Cheap Electric 50's will bring a new crowd to our sport. People who would never give their kids a bike, will now. And then we ...more

I'm not sure how cheap they will be?

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3/9/2018 3:03 PM

MXMattii wrote:

Cheap Electric 50's will bring a new crowd to our sport. People who would never give their kids a bike, will now. And then we ...more

NITRODOG wrote:

Great the ER's will be more full of kids and the tracks will get sued because the parents didn't realize it was dangerous!

Wtf..learning while your young is actually a method of preventing injuries on a smaller slower bike compared to bigger faster bikes. If your scared of injuries maybe take up fishing or dont cross the road.

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3/9/2018 3:06 PM

MXMattii wrote:

Cheap Electric 50's will bring a new crowd to our sport. People who would never give their kids a bike, will now. And then we ...more

brocsdad wrote:

I'm not sure how cheap they will be?

No idea, but those Chinese Electric bikes are in a reasonable price range. They will probably not be competitive with those KTM, Yamaha, Cobra ones but those parents will not know, buy a cheap one first, kids will get hooked at racing and then parents need to buy a quality fuel kids bike or a upgraded E-Bike.

I really think that E-bikes, especially the cheap Chinese ones are the perfect way to promote our sport and put a banner up from: "Get to know our sport".

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3/9/2018 3:13 PM

MXMattii wrote:

Cheap Electric 50's will bring a new crowd to our sport. People who would never give their kids a bike, will now. And then we ...more

NITRODOG wrote:

Great the ER's will be more full of kids and the tracks will get sued because the parents didn't realize it was dangerous!

The Candyman wrote:

Wtf..learning while your young is actually a method of preventing injuries on a smaller slower bike compared to bigger faster ...more

And a kid geared up on a p-dub is way the fuck safer than one on a hoverboard, which are selling in the quantity realm of 4m a year.

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3/9/2018 3:23 PM

Mini bike dads will make sure their kid's is the fastest.

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3/9/2018 3:33 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/9/2018 3:34 PM

If you only enjoy the sport for the sound of the motor then you’re either a fairweather fan or maybe you’re just too sensitive.

The future is now.

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3/9/2018 3:35 PM

Pretty soon we are going to have a generation that won't know how to ride a bike with a clutch.

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3/9/2018 3:47 PM

How are more expensive electric bikes going to get more people involved, when way back in the day every kid had a real motorcycle with gears and a kickstarter?

Granted, some started on 3 speed autos, but alot started on real 50s with a 3 speed and a clutch. Long before even PW and JR 50s.

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3/9/2018 3:48 PM

easydoesit wrote:

Pretty soon we are going to have a generation that won't know how to ride a bike with a clutch.

We already have that. There have been threads on here of Dads asking how to teach a kid racing for 3 years on a Cobra, to start out without killing the engine.

It's pretty sad.

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3/9/2018 3:57 PM

easydoesit wrote:

Pretty soon we are going to have a generation that won't know how to ride a bike with a clutch.

Asimo wrote:

We already have that. There have been threads on here of Dads asking how to teach a kid racing for 3 years on a Cobra, to ...more

My kid ride Cobra and Metrakit 50’s and he picked up the clutch and shifting in a couple days on his 65. It’s not that big of a deal. Though if the bikes of the future are automatic with crazy torque there’s no need for shifting gears.

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3/9/2018 4:00 PM

Asimo wrote:

How are more expensive electric bikes going to get more people involved, when way back in the day every kid had a real ...more

It will be something new and you would be surprised of all the parents against motocross because of the noise alone. As far as the expense we already live in a world with $5k 50’s and $10k big bikes.

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3/9/2018 4:01 PM

brocsdad wrote:

The AMA is currently working on a deal to allow new electric bikes from KTM, Yamaha and apparently Cobra race in 2019 at ...more

mattyhamz2 wrote:

I wouldn't attend an sx or national if it was electric bikes. The sound of these gnarly factory motors if part of what I ...more

I agree. To me engine noise, race fuel/smell, etc. is and has always been part of racing. Without any of it I think it'll be boring to watch.

Case in point

Formula 1 > Formula E

Go watch a race of each and you'll see how boring Formula E really is. Would NHRA, NASCAR, etc. be the same if they were to go silent? I think the fan base would drop.

I come from a snowmobiling background and nothing sounds better than a well tuned triple 800.

You want a bike with two wheels that's silent, buy a bicycle.

Don't get me wrong I think electric bikes/cars have a purpose in the commuting world. I just think they're boring to watch.

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3/9/2018 4:02 PM

brocsdad wrote:

It will be something new and you would be surprised of all the parents against motocross because of the noise alone. As far as ...more

And I mightn't have got tinnitus, but it was worth it.

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3/9/2018 4:06 PM

brocsdad wrote:

The AMA is currently working on a deal to allow new electric bikes from KTM, Yamaha and apparently Cobra race in 2019 at ...more

mattyhamz2 wrote:

I wouldn't attend an sx or national if it was electric bikes. The sound of these gnarly factory motors if part of what I ...more

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I agree. To me engine noise, race fuel/smell, etc. is and has always been part of racing. Without any of it I think it'll be ...more

From a spectator point it may be more boring but from a racers point of view it’s still racing.

You will most likely see the sport divided with 2 divisions at first.

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3/9/2018 4:10 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/9/2018 4:21 PM

Maybe the crowds can chant ala English soccer and make up funny songs about the riders.

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3/9/2018 4:36 PM

easydoesit wrote:

Pretty soon we are going to have a generation that won't know how to ride a bike with a clutch.

And to me that part of the fun...mastering the advantages of knowing how to use your clutch to effectively go fast

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