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3/14/2020 11:25 AM

First time ever doing this job.
45 hours of bike.
The upper clamp came out, with the upper body rollers.
The lower clamp came out, but the body of the rollers isn’t coming out.
Is it supponed to come out?
If that can come out, i can could clean it better and easily.
I don’t want to make damage.


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So is this supponed to get out of the clamp tube?

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3/14/2020 11:29 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/14/2020 11:36 AM

It's pressed fitted into place and now you understand why people tear down new bikes and properly grease the bearings. With real grease they are shipped from the factory with assembly lube that is only meant to keep the bearings from rusting during shipping.

What you're looking at is assembly lube that crap hardens and freezes up bearings if not cleaned off the bearing.

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3/14/2020 11:31 AM

SmokinJoe439 wrote:

It's pressed fitted into place and now you understand why people tear down new bikes and properly grease the bearings. With real grease they are shipped from the factory with assembly lube that is only meant to keep the bearings from rusting during shipping.

What you're looking at is assembly lube that crap hardens and freezes up bearings if not cleaned off the bearing.

So should it come out or no?
I’m a 18 guy.. firste experiencies with this kind of stuff

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3/14/2020 11:38 AM

Yeah it will come out if you have a press

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3/14/2020 11:50 AM

No, leave the bottom bearing in. Clean it as best you can and pack it w fresh grease the best you can. Do the same w upper, put it back together. W bike on stand, after all is back together w wheel on, you want the bars to turn free w just a slight bit of “drag” or resistance, enough to stop on its own before it hits the stop on the frame.

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3/14/2020 11:57 AM

Hit up YouTube, there are probably some good short videos on whatever work you need to do on your bike.

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3/14/2020 12:09 PM

SmokinJoe439 wrote:

It's pressed fitted into place and now you understand why people tear down new bikes and properly grease the bearings. With real grease they are shipped from the factory with assembly lube that is only meant to keep the bearings from rusting during shipping.

What you're looking at is assembly lube that crap hardens and freezes up bearings if not cleaned off the bearing.

MZ193 wrote:

So should it come out or no?
I’m a 18 guy.. firste experiencies with this kind of stuff

It will come off if you use a press to press the stem down through the clamp and then it will come off when the bearing hits the taper on the stem. If you are just greasing the bearings then just clean and grease them on the stem. You only need to remove if you are replacing the bearing. cool

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Ed Johnson

3/14/2020 12:11 PM

As mentioned, the lower bearing is pressed on the steering stem so leave it on. That's pretty filthy so spray it out with contact cleaner or something, dry it and then pack it with new grease. Look up a video on greasing a roller bearing if you need to, you want to massage the grease into the rollers (not just smear it on the outer portion).

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3/14/2020 12:21 PM

SmokinJoe439 wrote:

It's pressed fitted into place and now you understand why people tear down new bikes and properly grease the bearings. With real grease they are shipped from the factory with assembly lube that is only meant to keep the bearings from rusting during shipping.

What you're looking at is assembly lube that crap hardens and freezes up bearings if not cleaned off the bearing.

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3/14/2020 12:29 PM

Clean it really well and pack grease in it the best you can. You’re 18 so you’re learning early.

For future bikes, do this within the first 5 hours of owning the bike. Best to do it before you ride it though. Plus if you do it before riding the bike, you have a completely fresh and clean canvas to work on.

Don’t forget to do the linkage and swing arm beatings too!

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3/14/2020 12:36 PM

I suggest contacting "Mr Know it all" at the plush offices of High Torque Publications. This sort of thing is right up his alley. TheseT-clamps offa mini bike by any chance?

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3/14/2020 1:09 PM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Clean it really well and pack grease in it the best you can. You’re 18 so you’re learning early.

For future bikes, do this within the first 5 hours of owning the bike. Best to do it before you ride it though. Plus if you do it before riding the bike, you have a completely fresh and clean canvas to work on.

Don’t forget to do the linkage and swing arm beatings too!

Well, as i bought the bike i brought it to my mechanic to grease everything, i knew that they came out from the manufacture completely dry.
I already did the linkage and swing arm (and opened a topic about a question lol).
Fine, i’m using some gasoline fuel to clean them, after i’ll use some contact cleaner and in the end i’ll let them dry and after grease up!

Thank you guys!

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3/14/2020 1:25 PM

Looks like you might have bent it trying to get it off? I usually get mine off by cutting with a dreamer.

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3/14/2020 1:26 PM

Let me guess, 2019-20 KX450?

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3/14/2020 1:28 PM

Jbulz wrote:

Let me guess, 2019-20 KX450?

Believe he has a 250f

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2017 RMZ450
2005 YZ250-sold :,(
1998 YZ250
2005 KX250F

80% of the time it works every time
IG @hamdaddyof2 & @2HRacing
Thanks to : Factory Effex, N2Dirt, Acerbis, DT1, Fasthouse, Matix, FMF, ASV, 100% & Mika Metals

3/14/2020 1:34 PM

Jbulz wrote:

Let me guess, 2019-20 KX450?

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Believe he has a 250f

Yeah, kxf 250 2019 but with kyb ss forks🤤
Anyway it came dry as the 19-20 450’s.. but i still love kawis

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3/14/2020 3:46 PM

I am not the bearer of good news.

This is NOT an easy job to fix.

By zooming in this is what I see ...... the seal under the bearing is trashed so you will need to replace both bearings, seals and 2 races inside the frame. This is NOT an easy job and it will require having the right tools just to do it. Bearing races in the frame are a PAIN to do and need a special LONG bearing driver. Cutting the bearing off the steering stem can damage the stem if you cut to far. The new bearing has to be pressed on.

I am going to guess You pressure wash your bike a LOT as the grease looks like it’s waterlogged . Don’t replace the seal and its going to be a lot worse very quickly as water will be spraying inside.

In the future solvents will break down the grease and rinse it out. The bearing has to be imbedded with the grease inside and out.

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3/15/2020 11:21 AM

lumpy790 wrote:

I am not the bearer of good news.

This is NOT an easy job to fix.

By zooming in this is what I see ...... the seal under the bearing is trashed so you will need to replace both bearings, seals and 2 races inside the frame. This is NOT an easy job and it will require having the right tools just to do it. Bearing races in the frame are a PAIN to do and need a special LONG bearing driver. Cutting the bearing off the steering stem can damage the stem if you cut to far. The new bearing has to be pressed on.

I am going to guess You pressure wash your bike a LOT as the grease looks like it’s waterlogged . Don’t replace the seal and its going to be a lot worse very quickly as water will be spraying inside.

In the future solvents will break down the grease and rinse it out. The bearing has to be imbedded with the grease inside and out.

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So, after leaving them one night in gasoline fuel, cleaning, using some contact cleaner and greasing them up they look fine to me..
Seal seems okay too.

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I just finished the job and now steering seems fine!
Thank you for the tips guys!

Anyway, yeah, i do pressure wash my bike after every ride. I have pressure washed it about 30/35 times in the last 6 months.

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3/15/2020 12:17 PM

Motion Pro makes a nice tool that removes the bottom bearing without pressing the stem.
I've seen lower clamps that were bent from impropper pressing.

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3/16/2020 3:26 PM

In the future, use a gentle cleanser, then go to a harsher cleaner.

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3/25/2020 7:52 AM

don't use gasoline to clean.....it's way overkill

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3/25/2020 9:12 AM

Moto520 wrote:

don't use gasoline to clean.....it's way overkill

Why? I always used it to wash my chain, and i’ve also seen on youtube that it’s a great cleaner.

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