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People make fun me all the time I couldn’t imagine being that sensitive must suck.
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1. His hideous bike with [insert local hack job graphic company]
2. His ridiculous, argumentative posts?
Once you've seen the way that customer's post, you'll be along with us.
I'm in no way bashing ESR, sounds like a shitty situation.
I can't see how any machine couldn't pull off a motorcycle cylinder.
If he has bought that through a used vendor he is on his own, sadly.
And he makes complete engine cases for quads:
Thats what he is referring to, in the message of the first post.
https://www.eddie-sanders-racing.com/product-p/trxatccentercases2000.htm
There is even a movie clip with the product on the machine,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I6UsgQKzCw&feature=emb_logo
The price for those cases are pretty sharp.
I am a engineer, and if this was some kind of machine part it would be at least 5x higher.
Respect for the effort put in.
That's a probing cycle to set each part offset to the centre of the B axis .
He produces cylinders with power valves that never were produced for the older but desirable rides. I think a set of bare ESR quad cases are in the 1k range
So. It could be a money maker.
Usually with an HMC the $ spent on cutting tools and fixtures EXCEEDS the cost of the machine!...and that is for a NEW machine. If you buy a used HMC, and want to use it to its capability...you can expect to pay multiples of the machine cost in tooling. Why? The criteria that is used to judge if a HMC is being utilized properly is execution time %. The goal in top tier mfg is 95%. You want the machine to be executing a program 95% of the time. The other 5% is spent on preventative maintenance. That is 95% based on 24 hours x 365 days x .95 = 8300 HOURS a year in program. To do that...you need every tool you could ever need, for all materials, plus back up tools, IN THE TOOL MAG. HMCs often have tool mags with 200-600 tools. You also need a ton of pallets and all fixtures. You also need the programmers to keep up with material flow. If you are not running a night shift, you are not going to properly utilize an HMC unless you get an FMS system that queues up and buffers your pallets. You might have 50 pallets, and at any time you have 25 of them set up in a computer controlled pallet storage system. The system sends parts to the HMC and retrieves them from the HMC. This creates a buffering system that allows you to insure the HMC is ALWAYS running, 24x7.
Frankly, I can not see how a HMC would pan out for a niche mfg operation like this. There is just not enough volume. The way you know you might need a HMC is if disposal of machining chips is something you have to put a lot of effort into. When you are disposing of TONS of chips per week (or day), THEN you know you need an HMC. This was the wrong tool for the job.
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