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It takes 1 or 2 kicks to start a KXF450......is it really that important or is it just something else to have to fix when it breaks down?
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agn5009 9/21/2017 7:14am
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It's got a lot of advantages. Definitely worth it, just ask Eli if he wished he had E start a few times this year.
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kkawboy14 wrote:
It takes 1 or 2 kicks to start a KXF450......is it really that important or is it just something else to have to fix when it...
It takes 1 or 2 kicks to start a KXF450......is it really that important or is it just something else to have to fix when it breaks down?
Anyone anymore who is still asking this hasn't ridden an e start bike.
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Being 5'8" and riding mostly offroad, theres a bunch of times estart would be nice to have.
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Try it in the middle (or towards the end) of a moto when you are getting fatigued and you kill it heading into a corner. Fingers were cramped up, choppy braking bumps, a little too much rear brake, and not enough clutch. Now you have to kick your bike. Not with an E start. They fire before you even stop rolling 90% of the time. Or when you fall over. Kicking the bike is seconds and energy wasted vs an e-start.

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MudPup545 9/21/2017 7:37am
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I'll let you know if mine ever breaks down.
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mx317 9/21/2017 7:46am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
It takes 1 or 2 kicks to start a KXF450......is it really that important or is it just something else to have to fix when it...
It takes 1 or 2 kicks to start a KXF450......is it really that important or is it just something else to have to fix when it breaks down?
I heard it was important enough that it was a deciding factor that the Troy Lee team switched to KTM.
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Forty 9/21/2017 7:56am
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We were cutting laps yesterday...2013 RMZ....I stalled it with a ham fisted maneuver and kicked that hot bastard 9 times before it lit.

My next bike will have e-start.

Hoping the 2019 yz250 has it...
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Acidreamer 9/21/2017 7:58am
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I wish my kx450 had an estart even tho it starts first kick. Ive been spoiled by my gsxr lol.
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Barrett57 9/21/2017 8:18am
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I thought the same, until I got a bike with electric start.

m.hardesty16 9/21/2017 8:18am
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What went through your mind to spend time to make this pointless thread.. stating it takes 2 kicks to start a bike isnt gonna change the mind of all the major manufacturers.
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loftyair 9/21/2017 8:22am
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He was making a decision whether to start this thread or start his bike. I guess this was easier.
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MelonFan123 9/21/2017 8:27am
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Listening to Keefer's 450MX shootout podcast got me all worked up whenever he talked about e-start and those that prefer it or use it as a factor when deciding on a bike. "If you can't kick start a bike, you probably shouldn't be riding motocross"

The advantage isn't because people are too lazy to fire up a bike after grabbing it off the stand. All these bikes nowadays start first or second kick in those instances. E-start benefits are for when you're tired, when you stall the bike in a turn with severe arm pump and your heart rate is high, or for those of us that ride offroad and frequently stop, sometimes on ground thats uneven and awkward to use the kickstarter.

I did a GP recently and raced two new CRF450s, one with e-start and one without. For me, its 100% a deciding factor and my next bike will have e-start, period.
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slothy 9/21/2017 9:15am
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first time i rode a ktm with estart i was like this rocks! and the following week my yz450 was up for sale
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fast willy 9/21/2017 9:25am
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I dont even kickstart my 300xc anymore. 2017 e start is awesmoe.
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Paw Paw 9/21/2017 11:26am
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When you get to be old, e-start is the only way to go.

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CarlinoJoeVideo 9/21/2017 11:43am
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I've had estart KTMs for the last 4-5 years and only have I had the battery die once during start up. I've helped a friend or 2 jump start their bike. But we are talking 3 instances over 5 years on multiple bikes.

I won't go back to a 4 stroke with kick start.
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kkawboy14 9/21/2017 12:23pm
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m.hardesty16 wrote:
What went through your mind to spend time to make this pointless thread.. stating it takes 2 kicks to start a bike isnt gonna change the...
What went through your mind to spend time to make this pointless thread.. stating it takes 2 kicks to start a bike isnt gonna change the mind of all the major manufacturers.
I'm not sure which is a bigger waste of time, my thread or your post!
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kkawboy14 9/21/2017 12:24pm
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loftyair wrote:
He was making a decision whether to start this thread or start his bike. I guess this was easier.
I started my bike 3 times in the time it took to read this thread!

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kkawboy14 9/21/2017 12:26pm
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The advantage for a Pro is obvious, personally for me a guy who races maybe a couple times a year, maybe not so much.

Are you guys saying these things just never break down so far?
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MudPup545 9/21/2017 12:39pm
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kkawboy14 wrote:
The advantage for a Pro is obvious, personally for me a guy who races maybe a couple times a year, maybe not so much. Are you...
The advantage for a Pro is obvious, personally for me a guy who races maybe a couple times a year, maybe not so much.

Are you guys saying these things just never break down so far?
I'm just a weekend warrior, 99% trail ride. My bike is a 2012 KTM 250 XCF-W. Zero issues with the e-start. Not one. I push the button and it lights right up. In 5 years I've kick started the bike one time just to say I've done it.
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AZRider 9/21/2017 12:45pm
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Do you need a hand crank on your car? Keefers statement is dumb. That is AMA thinking. Nobody needs a cell phone either, or high speed internet. Its called evolution.
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Motofinne 9/21/2017 12:46pm
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I'm seriously amazed that this topic pops up once in awhile still to this day.

Even on Keefers shootout podcast. I'm sure that Dungey was happy to have the e-start at Vegas 2016 when he and Roczen crashed. I'm sure that anyone(from a beginner to a pro) that rides like to push a button if you tip over 15 min into a moto instead of kicking the bike.

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bvm111 9/21/2017 12:57pm
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My 16 KX450 is also ridiculously easy to start hot or cold... 1-2 kicks! Unless you are racing for a championship I would say it's a nice to have, however, springs in fork are a must have for my next motorcycle... that 19 KX450 better have spring forks or I might have to go back to Honda!
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ob 9/21/2017 1:38pm
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You guys that think e start isn't nice must not ride hard or ever crash hard. Last thing I want to do after getting hot and tired and crashing is try to start my hot bike after it cartwheeled. Who cares when you are in the pits.
E start is awesome. But it should go with a light bike, if they are adding a bunch of weight to a already heavy bike I'd take the lighter version.
I've had a couple battery's go bad, and a starter go bad because it was getting water inside of it as it was washed. Starter corroded until it wouldn't work. Is that enough to make me not want e start on my super light KTM? Hell no!
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FreshTopEnd 9/21/2017 1:42pm
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It's especially helpful after a fall or stall on a hill, no matter how easily the bike kick starts.
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kiwifan 9/21/2017 2:05pm
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I will 100% admit that I was one of those saying those who cant start a bike with a kickstart is a pussy, eating humble pie, I now have a bike with E start and it has been a blessing .... and it hasnt let me down once.
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kkawboy14 9/21/2017 2:15pm
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kkawboy14 wrote:
The advantage for a Pro is obvious, personally for me a guy who races maybe a couple times a year, maybe not so much. Are you...
The advantage for a Pro is obvious, personally for me a guy who races maybe a couple times a year, maybe not so much.

Are you guys saying these things just never break down so far?
MudPup545 wrote:
I'm just a weekend warrior, 99% trail ride. My bike is a 2012 KTM 250 XCF-W. Zero issues with the e-start. Not one. I push the...
I'm just a weekend warrior, 99% trail ride. My bike is a 2012 KTM 250 XCF-W. Zero issues with the e-start. Not one. I push the button and it lights right up. In 5 years I've kick started the bike one time just to say I've done it.
That sounds awesome. I hate working on electrical stuff so 5 years with nothing sounds good to me for sure!
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303MX 9/21/2017 2:16pm
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I'm a bigger guy and could easily start my 17 CRF barefooted. Trying to start that bastard if it was hot would wear me out. Went to the estart and will never go back.
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#76 9/21/2017 2:40pm
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"If you can't kick start a bike, you probably shouldn't be riding motocross"

....who said that shit?.
m.hardesty16 9/21/2017 3:10pm
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kkawboy14 wrote:
That sounds awesome. I hate working on electrical stuff so 5 years with nothing sounds good to me for sure!
Electrical stuff on dirt bikes is so easy, its just plug and play stuff with some wires scattered around.

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