Dungeys chances at championship

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What realistically are Dungeys chances of winning this title?

The way I see it Dungey would have to win both motos at Pala and Villipoto would have to finish outside top ten both motos,I just dont see it happening this year for Dungey.I wish it wasnt so,but I dont see how he can do it this year.
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njracer46 9/5/2011 8:48pm
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Anything can happen in motor sports. Mechanicals, crashes, ect. Nothing is guaranteed until its over
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gsxr6 9/5/2011 8:48pm
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maybe a rider on a ktm takes rv out in the first moto. whoooops wink wink
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lostboy819 9/5/2011 8:53pm
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If I was Dungey I would take a shot at RV, it would be payback for RVs take out move in SX.
Track and Trail 9/5/2011 8:54pm
9/5/2011 8:54pm Edited Date/Time 9/5/2011 8:56pm
neyhart98dad wrote:
What realistically are Dungeys chances of winning this title? The way I see it Dungey would have to win both motos at Pala and Villipoto would...
What realistically are Dungeys chances of winning this title?

The way I see it Dungey would have to win both motos at Pala and Villipoto would have to finish outside top ten both motos,I just dont see it happening this year for Dungey.I wish it wasnt so,but I dont see how he can do it this year.
Dungey needs 14 points. If RV was outside the top ten and RD won in the first moto that puts RD into the lead going into the final moto.

Edit: jmclennan41 beat me to it!

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jndmx 9/5/2011 8:54pm
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njracer46 wrote:
Anything can happen in motor sports. Mechanicals, crashes, ect. Nothing is guaranteed until its over
This right here.

Remember how far back Trey was on Pourcel.....all that went out the window when CP crashed.
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I think RV will put the hammer down and go 1-1 next week .
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Ddavis 9/5/2011 8:55pm
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If Dungey wins both Moros Rv would need to go 5-5 for RD to win I believe or RV DNF a moto
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gsxr6 9/5/2011 8:58pm
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rd should play it classy. a teammate should take rv out. besides even if hes mad im sure dungey could kick his gimpy midget ass anyways.lol
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MXerDW 9/5/2011 8:58pm
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If RD wins both motos that is 50 points
So RV would need to earn 36 points to win the championship.
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FreshTopEnd 9/5/2011 9:03pm
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Only if RV has a big problem. He can let Dungey win. If he could lock it up in moto one, then maybe push hard to do that, otherwise worry about the war, not the battle.
Track and Trail 9/5/2011 9:08pm
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MXR wrote:
I think RV will put the hammer down and go 1-1 next week .
I think Dungey's gonna crush RV like Godzilla vs. Tokyo.
Track and Trail 9/5/2011 9:12pm
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hartebreak wrote:
Poto hasnt had his bad luck race yet.....
Red Bud wasn't so hot for him. He could have more bad "luck" though.



I feel bad for thinking this but still..... Evil
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Ddavis wrote:
If Dungey wins both Moros Rv would need to go 5-5 for RD to win I believe or RV DNF a moto
If RV goes 4-4 they're tied (50 vs 36 points)....would RV have won more rounds and win on a count back?
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gsxr6 9/5/2011 9:16pm
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they all know freestone is the thirstiest track. dungey could have managed that lead and saved some fuel it was a rookie move. lil less throttle wouldve been a lil more fuel man
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gsxr6 9/5/2011 9:17pm
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huge dungey fan here btw
cmhall90usmc 9/5/2011 9:19pm
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I don't know if this is any advantage/disadvantage to either rider but RV has never raced this national before but I'm thinking he will come through
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kongols 9/5/2011 9:59pm
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MXerDW wrote:
If RD wins both motos that is 50 points
So RV would need to earn 36 points to win the championship.
If RD wins both motos , RV needs 37 points to win championship.

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sharkey 9/5/2011 10:09pm
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hartebreak wrote:
Poto hasnt had his bad luck race yet.....
you mean mechanical problem right? because he did crash at one race and come from last to 14th
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DownSouth 9/5/2011 10:11pm
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Ddavis wrote:
If Dungey wins both Moros Rv would need to go 5-5 for RD to win I believe or RV DNF a moto
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If RV goes 4-4 they're tied (50 vs 36 points)....would RV have won more rounds and win on a count back?
If Dungey goes 1-1 and RV 4-4 and they tie Dungey wins the title based on 4 overall wins to only 3 for RV. Someone earlier said that it goes by moto wins but I always thought it was overalls.


This is the rulebook paragraph. It does not seem to clearly specify if "race" wins means overall or motos but it does use "final moto" finish as the final tiebreaker which leads me to believe that "race win" means overall win with the way they use the terminology.

b. In the event of a tie for the championship, the winner will be
determined based on the number of race wins during the series. If
the tie remains, the number of finishes of second, third, etc., will be
tallied until the tie is broken. If the tie continues to remain, the final
moto finish at the last event will determine the champion.
Track and Trail 9/5/2011 10:20pm
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If Dungey goes 1-1 and RV 4-4 and they tie Dungey wins the title based on 4 overall wins to only 3 for RV. Someone earlier...
If Dungey goes 1-1 and RV 4-4 and they tie Dungey wins the title based on 4 overall wins to only 3 for RV. Someone earlier said that it goes by moto wins but I always thought it was overalls.


This is the rulebook paragraph. It does not seem to clearly specify if "race" wins means overall or motos but it does use "final moto" finish as the final tiebreaker which leads me to believe that "race win" means overall win with the way they use the terminology.

b. In the event of a tie for the championship, the winner will be
determined based on the number of race wins during the series. If
the tie remains, the number of finishes of second, third, etc., will be
tallied until the tie is broken. If the tie continues to remain, the final
moto finish at the last event will determine the champion.
Good info, but look closer.

b. In the event of a tie for the championship, the winner will be
determined based on the number of race wins during the series. If
the tie remains, the number of finishes of second, third, etc., will be
tallied until the tie is broken. If the tie continues to remain, the final
moto finish at the last event will determine the champion - Ryan Dungey.

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kongols 9/5/2011 10:32pm
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Good info, but look closer. b. In the event of a tie for the championship, the winner will be determined based on the number of race...
Good info, but look closer.

b. In the event of a tie for the championship, the winner will be
determined based on the number of race wins during the series. If
the tie remains, the number of finishes of second, third, etc., will be
tallied until the tie is broken. If the tie continues to remain, the final
moto finish at the last event will determine the champion - Ryan Dungey.

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Dungey would have 4 race wins to RV`s 3, so no need to dig deeper.
Track and Trail 9/5/2011 10:39pm
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kongols wrote:
Dungey would have 4 race wins to RV`s 3, so no need to dig deeper.
Ugh, c'mon Kongols it clearly says Dungey will be determined the champion.
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jeffro503 9/5/2011 11:00pm
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What is all this "take out" bullshit talk? Fucking win the title with your speed. Winning a title on some shit bag dirty move isn't going to win RD any fans.....in fact it would be a shit storm.

Let them race.....and let the cards fall where they may. Fucking cheap shot artists!
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kongols 9/5/2011 11:49pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
What is all this "take out" bullshit talk? Fucking win the title with your speed. Winning a title on some shit bag dirty move isn't going...
What is all this "take out" bullshit talk? Fucking win the title with your speed. Winning a title on some shit bag dirty move isn't going to win RD any fans.....in fact it would be a shit storm.

Let them race.....and let the cards fall where they may. Fucking cheap shot artists!
{embed] https://youtu.be/FLVdcnu11GY [/embed]
speedy mendeavel 9/6/2011 12:30am
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jeffro503 wrote:
What is all this "take out" bullshit talk? Fucking win the title with your speed. Winning a title on some shit bag dirty move isn't going...
What is all this "take out" bullshit talk? Fucking win the title with your speed. Winning a title on some shit bag dirty move isn't going to win RD any fans.....in fact it would be a shit storm.

Let them race.....and let the cards fall where they may. Fucking cheap shot artists!
RV didn't lose you as a fan after he pulled the move in the video above did he?Whistling
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jeffro503 wrote:
What is all this "take out" bullshit talk? Fucking win the title with your speed. Winning a title on some shit bag dirty move isn't going...
What is all this "take out" bullshit talk? Fucking win the title with your speed. Winning a title on some shit bag dirty move isn't going to win RD any fans.....in fact it would be a shit storm.

Let them race.....and let the cards fall where they may. Fucking cheap shot artists!
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{embed] https://youtu.be/FLVdcnu11GY [/embed]
Ha ha ha....good one!
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lostboy819 wrote:
If I was Dungey I would take a shot at RV, it would be payback for RVs take out move in SX.
He didn't need revenge. 2 laps later Villopoto had one of the most brutal crashes I've ever seen and took himself out of the series.
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jeffro503 9/6/2011 1:04am
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jeffro503 wrote:
What is all this "take out" bullshit talk? Fucking win the title with your speed. Winning a title on some shit bag dirty move isn't going...
What is all this "take out" bullshit talk? Fucking win the title with your speed. Winning a title on some shit bag dirty move isn't going to win RD any fans.....in fact it would be a shit storm.

Let them race.....and let the cards fall where they may. Fucking cheap shot artists!
speedy mendeavel wrote:
RV didn't lose you as a fan after he pulled the move in the video above did he?:whistle:
RV didn't lose you as a fan after he pulled the move in the video above did he?Whistling
I'm a fan of both riders actually. So you geniuses think RD is going to put RV on the ground for something that happened 6 months ago? That move by RV was aggressive as hell , but who is to say he meant to take anyone out? In the heat of the moment things can get crazy. You dummies are saying RD should plan this take out well in advance....there is a difference. Nothing wrong with bangin' some bars and getting aggressive , but take out's are for fuggin' pussies. They all do it every now and then.....but you don't see or hear about it to often when there is a championship on the line. If you're smart and understand the reason why , maybe you guys can figure it out.
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kongols 9/6/2011 1:16am
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I'm a fan of both riders actually. So you geniuses think RD is going to put RV on the ground for something that happened 6 months...
I'm a fan of both riders actually. So you geniuses think RD is going to put RV on the ground for something that happened 6 months ago? That move by RV was aggressive as hell , but who is to say he meant to take anyone out? In the heat of the moment things can get crazy. You dummies are saying RD should plan this take out well in advance....there is a difference. Nothing wrong with bangin' some bars and getting aggressive , but take out's are for fuggin' pussies. They all do it every now and then.....but you don't see or hear about it to often when there is a championship on the line. If you're smart and understand the reason why , maybe you guys can figure it out.
But there was a championship on a line. RV was 12 points down with 4 rounds to go. If that`s not championship on a line I don`t know what is.

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