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On the flip side, if he wasnt so FUCKING AMAZING and ahead of everyone else back in like 2002 then dudes with less game like well.... everyone else wouldn't need PEDs.
It's just not fair that he's so talented. But he can still run with them without it.
Is this the answer to his success rate with shorter events vs longer? IE. heat wins, MEC? No boosters from Aldon?
For the record I think they should do whatever they want. They're already doing one of the most retardedly dangerous and difficult things ever for less than bench player baseball bros.
Let them eat cake.
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Hmmmmmm
Genetics are always an X factor.
There are all sorts of advanced methods to heal faster. They got those chambers you sleep in. Nothing illegal about that, and I wouldnt put it past Dungey to own one.
I have a friend that destroyed his collarbone trying a jump he never should have attempted. Pins & rods sticking out of his skin and all that good stuff. Kawasaki sent him to their doctors in La Jolla and they worked their magic. He was racing 2 weeks later.
Granted, he has some pretty unique genetics.
I can speak for that situation because I was pretty close to it and I know the athlete. But in most other cases I assume a athlete is using because it's actually the safe assumption. The difference is, I dont really judge the athlete negatively. The PEDs dont have that much use if youre not already a workout warrior. So I actually commend a athlete that is willing to do whatever it takes to win.
The problem is with the testing and the testing agency.
Science is always going to be one step ahead of the people testing for it. That is fact number one that needs to be accepted.
Fact number two is that this is professional entertainment, not amateur sports. It's not in the best interest of the sanctioning bodies or promoters to bust their stars for doping. I can say for sure that I know of at least 1 top 5 (in the world) rider that has failed tests and the testing agency went to the sanctioning body first to see how they wanted to proceed. It was swept under the rug. I just assume that isnt the only case of that happening in this sports history.
.....the issue is drug use right? Performance enhancing? Legal or not? The safety of the riders?.....
....basically one or a combination of a few of those specifics are what everyone has a problem/opinion on right?
....well here is how funny I find it:
1. MX/SX is far more dangerous in itself than any PED
2. There are plenty of employees in the pits that are on one recreational drug or another
3. There are plenty of fans in the stands that are on one recreational drug or another
4. The title sponsor of the series produces a product that is pretty fucking unhealthy in itself
5. You'd be hard pressed to find many fans in the stands that arent drinking alcohol, you know, that liquid drug that isnt exactly good for anyones health. But beer goggles do artificially enhance all the eye candy at the races!
6. And speaking of the eye candy and the subject of whether the racers are racing without "help"....It's pretty hard to find a chic at Anaheim that doesnt have fake boobs or fake hair (not that theres anything wrong with that), The skin is real, that's all that matters right?
I mean, lets just be real here. Who the fuck really cares if the riders are on PEDs while racing? The other half the field cant wait to go use recreational drugs after the race. The rider reps for most sponsors are high as a kite, mechanics love to party, etc. The stands are packed with drunks and whatnot. And most of us like looking at fake women so why do we care if the athletes are so-called "fake"?
This topic is so full of hypocrisy and irony.
If only TFS was still around. He always loved this stuff and made the fights interesting.
Here is my answer...
If the 16 year old actually had the talent and competitive nature to make it at the next level, I wouldnt need to push it on him. He'd be asking for the "help".
Competitive is, as competitive does. A truly competitive athlete seeks out every possible advantage they can get. It's not like 16 year olds dont know what PEDs are. Although, I could see a 16 year old still being weary of the morality of it all and seeking advice.
Personally, I'd help them and make sure they did it responsibly. But I'd also make sure they werent looking for a shortcut. PED use would have to be in addition to also doing every other thing possible to be the best they could be.
I really dont look at it any different than if a riders mechanic found a loophole in the rules or found a way to cheat on the motor without getting caught. A faster bike doesnt really matter if you cant ride it. And if you can, more power to you I suppose. Racing at any level has never been a level playing field. It's always been about who can find the advantages (legal or not) and exploit them. Im not sure if that is "right" but it's in racing's blood.
Put it this way. Ive never seen a professional trainer or mechanic "push" a PED or cheater part on to a racer. But I have seen trainers assist athletes when asked just the same as Ive seen mechanics bend their morals in a all-out effort to win.
Fear, power, stupidity, comfort and control.
People like to control what everyone can do. They are afraid that others (and especially those they care about) are too stupid to make wise decisions for themselves. Rather than give individuals the power to make their own choices so long as is doesn't hurt anyone else, they find comfort in controlling them. That way, they figure all the idiots (which includes anyone who isn't them) will have to refrain from messing up their version of the world.
In conclusion, eabod.
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I'm not sure how dumping garbage in the trash has anything to do with media creditably (sic).
If I took out the posts that accuse riders (or trainers) by name, what would be left of this thread?
Asking the questions are fair game and should be allowed. Removing posts or threads that ask these types of questions makes it look worse. It looks like, or at least could be construed as looking like, these types of topics are being swept under the rug.
Saying or implying that trainer X is doping his riders or that rider X is doping without good evidence is wrong. Asking whether trainer X would admit to something that would implicate himself and his riders in an interview is a fair question since it does not imply or suggest that trainer X is doping.
Also fair game in my opinion is the question of whether the media, mechanics, or others that could be in the know, would ever out a rider and if so, what would the implications of that be?
The sport of motocross is growing and this topic will come up more and more. What is needed is testing that works, that is random, and that has strict procedures in place for the benefit of the riders and the sport of motocross. probably easier said than done, after all, look at what Lance Armstrong got away with.
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