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The purpose of an O/X/Y/Z ring chain is to keep grease inside the rollers so the pins stay lubricated. Right?
And chains don't really "stretch". They elongate because they don't get lubed inside the rollers where the pins wear stuff out. Right?
When I spray chain lube/wax on the sideplates and rollers, there's no way in the world that enough gets inside the rollers to lube the pins against the rollers. No way. I'd think that soaking in 90 wt gear oil would be the only way to do that. Right?
So... does lubing really slow down chain wear? Friction, sure, I can 100% see reducing friction on the sideplates and letting the wheel/chain system move a little more freely, but wear and elongation?
In other words, can you lube a non-O-ring chain enough to mimic the durability of an O-ring chain?
And chains don't really "stretch". They elongate because they don't get lubed inside the rollers where the pins wear stuff out. Right?
When I spray chain lube/wax on the sideplates and rollers, there's no way in the world that enough gets inside the rollers to lube the pins against the rollers. No way. I'd think that soaking in 90 wt gear oil would be the only way to do that. Right?
So... does lubing really slow down chain wear? Friction, sure, I can 100% see reducing friction on the sideplates and letting the wheel/chain system move a little more freely, but wear and elongation?
In other words, can you lube a non-O-ring chain enough to mimic the durability of an O-ring chain?
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The Shop
Dust is my enemy, we have a lot of it, and oil collects all of it plus its friends and offspring. I think I'm going to try a dry Teflon spray I picked up at O'Reilly's next. It's great on throttle tubes.
Try this stuff if you get a chance. It’s watery thin like penetrating oil, so it gets places gooey lube doesn’t, then it dries to a film that doesn’t collect dirt at all:
https://www.amazon.com/DuPont-Teflon-Chain-Saver-Self-Cleaning-Lubrican…
Edit: I might be wrong. I’ll let The OP clarify which he was referring to.
Alot of bikes pass thru my garage and one in particular comes to mind after reading this post. 07 Yz450 that i rebuilt and sold to a local kid . When i got the bike the chain had so much lube caked on it you couldn’t hardly tell it was a gold chain....after a week or so he brings it back for me to put a new rear tire on... i look at the chain that was very clean and gold now... lol... and VERY kinked...i assumed he bought a new chain and just hadnt lubed it ...i pull the rear wheel off and the spacer just falls out due to compromised seal... he rode that thing long /hard enough without lube it BURNED all the lube off ... now im not gonna say the heat transferred all the way to the seal and cooked it but his lack of maintenance / riding style really showed me how fast things go south when not performing simple maintenance.
So i proceed to ask him if he bought a new chain and of course he says no . I explain to him how important it is to lube the chain and keep it adjusted. Of course i lubed it for him before he loaded it up and headed down the road.
A month or so later i get a text from him asking if i could get a left side case for him.....Yes, he continued to neglect his chain and it finally came off destroying the case... Sorry for the long winded story but figured id share!
I like the Maxima stuff. I also make sure to clean the chain really well with Maxima chain cleaner when I wash my bike. I use the penetrating lube after I wash it too, then chain lube.
Pit Row
Local shop owner told me I couldn't tell people that because I would reduce sales lol
So... which would you rather see? The caked over chain? Anything actually WRONG with that, apart from the looks? I mean, that does bug me....but I don't know if there's anything actually WRONG with it of if it's just aesthetics.
I totally see the need to lube the side plates and we saw lots of examples of why. So, that's fine. I lube my chains,always have, probably always will. Lubing the side plates is good enough reason for that.
Bottom line, I like to think about stuff and how it works. I just go to thinking about how chain lube actually works, what it actually does, why, and etc. Evidently, some people think it's stupid and beginner-like to actually think about what you're doing and why.
I've been using Maxima Clear Chain for several years and like it better than their chain wax. But I've been thinking about dry Teflon or the DuPont chain saver posted above.
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