Does Mookie really not know why....

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1/15/2018 11:34am Edited Date/Time 1/16/2018 11:41am
he found himself without a ride as he was asked in his interview on the TV this Saturday?

I am a fan. I have the fever. But I was a little surprised at his response to the question? Aside from and association issues I would think that not riding the Nats, not showing up at one off races, and not staying in touch with the industry through social media where he would show himself training hard etc. might be a realistic factor.

I respect you Mookie but come now.
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SPODEBOY wrote:
he found himself without a ride as he was asked in his interview on the TV this Saturday? I am a fan. I have the fever...
he found himself without a ride as he was asked in his interview on the TV this Saturday?

I am a fan. I have the fever. But I was a little surprised at his response to the question? Aside from and association issues I would think that not riding the Nats, not showing up at one off races, and not staying in touch with the industry through social media where he would show himself training hard etc. might be a realistic factor.

I respect you Mookie but come now.
All this time away from racing and he isnt getting any younger. He really expects to have a factory ride based on his results? What results? One regional championship where he won 2 races and that was his best season to date? He went pro years and years ago not like hes still learning and new to the pros
1/15/2018 11:39am
Mookie doesn't have the same view of himself and his situation as the know nothing Vital experts, so I can fully understand his response.
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Mookie doesn't have the same view of himself and his situation as the know nothing Vital experts, so I can fully understand his response.
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Honestly I don't believe any of this crap we've seen. Malcolm racing outdoor Nationals when he was just starting and no one really expected results and he did halfway decent so to not have a ride for outdoor Nationals after winning an indoor Supercross title seems totally crazy to me. I can't imagine he would have turn that down there's just no way
1/15/2018 12:05pm
SPODEBOY wrote:
he found himself without a ride as he was asked in his interview on the TV this Saturday? I am a fan. I have the fever...
he found himself without a ride as he was asked in his interview on the TV this Saturday?

I am a fan. I have the fever. But I was a little surprised at his response to the question? Aside from and association issues I would think that not riding the Nats, not showing up at one off races, and not staying in touch with the industry through social media where he would show himself training hard etc. might be a realistic factor.

I respect you Mookie but come now.
yz133rider wrote:
All this time away from racing and he isnt getting any younger. He really expects to have a factory ride based on his results? What results...
All this time away from racing and he isnt getting any younger. He really expects to have a factory ride based on his results? What results? One regional championship where he won 2 races and that was his best season to date? He went pro years and years ago not like hes still learning and new to the pros
Sorry, but historically there is a long list of riders who got 'factory' level rides with a lot less, and continued to have them renewed with very poor performances.

Mookie owes absolutely nothing to anybody except himself, and he definitely owes nothing to a bunch of keyboard warriors on the internet. If the geniuses behind the teams think he's not worth a ride, they can say 'told you so" while posing for the championship photo. (which almost all of them will NOT be doing.)
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1/15/2018 12:13pm
SPODEBOY wrote:
he found himself without a ride as he was asked in his interview on the TV this Saturday? I am a fan. I have the fever...
he found himself without a ride as he was asked in his interview on the TV this Saturday?

I am a fan. I have the fever. But I was a little surprised at his response to the question? Aside from and association issues I would think that not riding the Nats, not showing up at one off races, and not staying in touch with the industry through social media where he would show himself training hard etc. might be a realistic factor.

I respect you Mookie but come now.
yz133rider wrote:
All this time away from racing and he isnt getting any younger. He really expects to have a factory ride based on his results? What results...
All this time away from racing and he isnt getting any younger. He really expects to have a factory ride based on his results? What results? One regional championship where he won 2 races and that was his best season to date? He went pro years and years ago not like hes still learning and new to the pros
Mr. Knobby wrote:
Sorry, but historically there is a long list of riders who got 'factory' level rides with a lot less, and continued to have them renewed with...
Sorry, but historically there is a long list of riders who got 'factory' level rides with a lot less, and continued to have them renewed with very poor performances.

Mookie owes absolutely nothing to anybody except himself, and he definitely owes nothing to a bunch of keyboard warriors on the internet. If the geniuses behind the teams think he's not worth a ride, they can say 'told you so" while posing for the championship photo. (which almost all of them will NOT be doing.)
I cant think of a single factory rider whos won a championship then sat out the outdoors while healthy... Outside of mcgrath or reed when in their winning days.

Malcolm wasnt in that type of level at the time to be taking summers off.
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yz133rider wrote:
I cant think of a single factory rider whos won a championship then sat out the outdoors while healthy... Outside of mcgrath or reed when in...
I cant think of a single factory rider whos won a championship then sat out the outdoors while healthy... Outside of mcgrath or reed when in their winning days.

Malcolm wasnt in that type of level at the time to be taking summers off.
BOOM....we have a winner. Totally true. Malcolm barely gets the title, and I specifically remember him saying he wasn't going to do outdoors. He was healthy and the fastest he's looked in his career....So why not? NO ONE DOES THAT!
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yz133rider wrote:
I cant think of a single factory rider whos won a championship then sat out the outdoors while healthy... Outside of mcgrath or reed when in...
I cant think of a single factory rider whos won a championship then sat out the outdoors while healthy... Outside of mcgrath or reed when in their winning days.

Malcolm wasnt in that type of level at the time to be taking summers off.
nrosso391 wrote:
BOOM....we have a winner. Totally true. Malcolm barely gets the title, and I specifically remember him saying he wasn't going to do outdoors. He was healthy...
BOOM....we have a winner. Totally true. Malcolm barely gets the title, and I specifically remember him saying he wasn't going to do outdoors. He was healthy and the fastest he's looked in his career....So why not? NO ONE DOES THAT!
Well......except for Reed and McGrath!
1/15/2018 12:43pm
"specifically"
Are you sure he had a ride? might be revising history a little bit.
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No one had a new ride, he knew he would have to get a relief ride and then prove himself.

Was 12th good enough?
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yz133rider wrote:
I cant think of a single factory rider whos won a championship then sat out the outdoors while healthy... Outside of mcgrath or reed when in...
I cant think of a single factory rider whos won a championship then sat out the outdoors while healthy... Outside of mcgrath or reed when in their winning days.

Malcolm wasnt in that type of level at the time to be taking summers off.
nrosso391 wrote:
BOOM....we have a winner. Totally true. Malcolm barely gets the title, and I specifically remember him saying he wasn't going to do outdoors. He was healthy...
BOOM....we have a winner. Totally true. Malcolm barely gets the title, and I specifically remember him saying he wasn't going to do outdoors. He was healthy and the fastest he's looked in his career....So why not? NO ONE DOES THAT!
kkawboy14 wrote:
Well......except for Reed and McGrath!
Yes except for reed and mcgrath who were on top of the sport. Wouldnt put malcom even remotely as high as those guys. I addressed already enough i thought for you but i guess not.
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1/15/2018 1:10pm
kkawboy14 wrote:
No one had a new ride, he knew he would have to get a relief ride and then prove himself.

Was 12th good enough?
On that track...
With VERY LITTLE TIME on the RMZ...
With the new format...
Qualifying wisely and carefully directly from his heat...

12th was fine.

His results put him 17th in the series. He put down a 54.9 in qualifying (13th) & looked good and in control while trying different lines and combos. He made some moves on the fast guys during the night and I'm sure he'll find more speed as he spends more time on the bike.
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I guess I posed this question because I thought, "I know he is an intelligent person, how does he not know?".. Maybe he was just stating what he wanted the camera to hear. But if not, and he really doesn't know, that kinda scares me.
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1/15/2018 1:22pm
kkawboy14 wrote:
No one had a new ride, he knew he would have to get a relief ride and then prove himself.

Was 12th good enough?
TeamGreen wrote:
On that track... With VERY LITTLE TIME on the RMZ... With the new format... Qualifying wisely and carefully directly from his heat... 12th was fine. His...
On that track...
With VERY LITTLE TIME on the RMZ...
With the new format...
Qualifying wisely and carefully directly from his heat...

12th was fine.

His results put him 17th in the series. He put down a 54.9 in qualifying (13th) & looked good and in control while trying different lines and combos. He made some moves on the fast guys during the night and I'm sure he'll find more speed as he spends more time on the bike.
As you know these tracks are outrageous to the average rider. To be within 1 or 2 secs a lap to the very best in the world is something to be bragged about. Yet many of these jackoffs on here (you know who you are jackoffs ) blow me away. Afuckingmazing.
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nrosso391 wrote:
BOOM....we have a winner. Totally true. Malcolm barely gets the title, and I specifically remember him saying he wasn't going to do outdoors. He was healthy...
BOOM....we have a winner. Totally true. Malcolm barely gets the title, and I specifically remember him saying he wasn't going to do outdoors. He was healthy and the fastest he's looked in his career....So why not? NO ONE DOES THAT!
And he also stated at the time that he was going to start preparing for the 450. The factories could see what us idiots on vital could see and no, his phone wasn't ringing. He got a great opportunity here with JGR and I hope he works as hard as his peers off of the bike so it doesn't go wasted. He may not get another one like this ever again if he doesn't and then we can start over again with the I don't know why.....
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1/15/2018 1:37pm
Sometimes I wonder if his race and long dreds might be one reason. He looks very different in an advertisement than a lot of riders. There is racism in this industry, believe it or not.
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1/15/2018 1:41pm Edited Date/Time 1/15/2018 1:43pm
I was surprised he didn’t have a ride last year after winning the east 250 championship in 2016.
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NorCal 50+ wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if his race and long dreds might be one reason. He looks very different in an advertisement than a lot of riders. There...
Sometimes I wonder if his race and long dreds might be one reason. He looks very different in an advertisement than a lot of riders. There is racism in this industry, believe it or not.
Demographically, "Race" works in Malcolm's favor.

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SPODEBOY wrote:
he found himself without a ride as he was asked in his interview on the TV this Saturday? I am a fan. I have the fever...
he found himself without a ride as he was asked in his interview on the TV this Saturday?

I am a fan. I have the fever. But I was a little surprised at his response to the question? Aside from and association issues I would think that not riding the Nats, not showing up at one off races, and not staying in touch with the industry through social media where he would show himself training hard etc. might be a realistic factor.

I respect you Mookie but come now.
yz133rider wrote:
All this time away from racing and he isnt getting any younger. He really expects to have a factory ride based on his results? What results...
All this time away from racing and he isnt getting any younger. He really expects to have a factory ride based on his results? What results? One regional championship where he won 2 races and that was his best season to date? He went pro years and years ago not like hes still learning and new to the pros
Mr. Knobby wrote:
Sorry, but historically there is a long list of riders who got 'factory' level rides with a lot less, and continued to have them renewed with...
Sorry, but historically there is a long list of riders who got 'factory' level rides with a lot less, and continued to have them renewed with very poor performances.

Mookie owes absolutely nothing to anybody except himself, and he definitely owes nothing to a bunch of keyboard warriors on the internet. If the geniuses behind the teams think he's not worth a ride, they can say 'told you so" while posing for the championship photo. (which almost all of them will NOT be doing.)
Mookie doesn’t owe his fans or detractors anything, at the same time we can have whatever opinion of him we want, whether valid or not. It’s an Internet talk forum.
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NorCal 50+ wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if his race and long dreds might be one reason. He looks very different in an advertisement than a lot of riders. There...
Sometimes I wonder if his race and long dreds might be one reason. He looks very different in an advertisement than a lot of riders. There is racism in this industry, believe it or not.
TeamGreen wrote:
Demographically, "Race" works in Malcolm's favor.

Demographics that "works" for this sport is 18-34 WHITE males.

I think his attitude comes off as quite nonchalant and some may see that as not giving a rats ass if he has a ride or not. Or if given a ride that he won't give 100%+ effort that these days seems mandatory to be a top tier guy. Meaning, the training/eating habits, etc. etc.

With that said.. I have no idea what shape the guy is in nor his training program or anything else. Thus... I have no opinion on what's keeping him back from the "good" rides.

All I know.. is I like the dude and was impressed by his whoops speed, as he and his brother always are quick through them. He did well in my book. And looking at that long whoop section at A2, and some more time on the bike, I think he'll do better this weekend.

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NorCal 50+ wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if his race and long dreds might be one reason. He looks very different in an advertisement than a lot of riders. There...
Sometimes I wonder if his race and long dreds might be one reason. He looks very different in an advertisement than a lot of riders. There is racism in this industry, believe it or not.
I know he's called the Predator, but he's still from the human race.
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1/15/2018 2:19pm Edited Date/Time 1/15/2018 2:19pm
Tuna wrote:
Mookie doesn’t owe his fans or detractors anything, at the same time we can have whatever opinion of him we want, whether valid or not. It’s...
Mookie doesn’t owe his fans or detractors anything, at the same time we can have whatever opinion of him we want, whether valid or not. It’s an Internet talk forum.
Within reason.

Freedom of Speech does not equal Freedom to be an Asshat.
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Does anyone ....


Hate these bullshit thread titles?
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NorCal 50+ wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if his race and long dreds might be one reason. He looks very different in an advertisement than a lot of riders. There...
Sometimes I wonder if his race and long dreds might be one reason. He looks very different in an advertisement than a lot of riders. There is racism in this industry, believe it or not.
TeamGreen wrote:
Demographically, "Race" works in Malcolm's favor.

jbomx363 wrote:
Demographics that "works" for this sport is 18-34 WHITE males. I think his attitude comes off as quite nonchalant and some [u]may[/u] see that as not...
Demographics that "works" for this sport is 18-34 WHITE males.

I think his attitude comes off as quite nonchalant and some may see that as not giving a rats ass if he has a ride or not. Or if given a ride that he won't give 100%+ effort that these days seems mandatory to be a top tier guy. Meaning, the training/eating habits, etc. etc.

With that said.. I have no idea what shape the guy is in nor his training program or anything else. Thus... I have no opinion on what's keeping him back from the "good" rides.

All I know.. is I like the dude and was impressed by his whoops speed, as he and his brother always are quick through them. He did well in my book. And looking at that long whoop section at A2, and some more time on the bike, I think he'll do better this weekend.

I'm guessing you're not in Marketing? Probably not in a sales position at one of the OEM's, either?

Having a rider that appeals to OTHER Demo's is how you present your product to those Demo's. I'm jus' sayin'...

Btw, pitching to the 18-34 crowd sorta sells bikes; but, it's the 34+ crowd that seems to spending the "real" money.
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JBecker 72 wrote:
I was surprised he didn’t have a ride last year after winning the east 250 championship in 2016.

What rookie has skipped outdoors and got a 450 ride? Nobody. And neither did Mookie.
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kkawboy14 wrote:
No one had a new ride, he knew he would have to get a relief ride and then prove himself.

Was 12th good enough?
TeamGreen wrote:
On that track... With VERY LITTLE TIME on the RMZ... With the new format... Qualifying wisely and carefully directly from his heat... 12th was fine. His...
On that track...
With VERY LITTLE TIME on the RMZ...
With the new format...
Qualifying wisely and carefully directly from his heat...

12th was fine.

His results put him 17th in the series. He put down a 54.9 in qualifying (13th) & looked good and in control while trying different lines and combos. He made some moves on the fast guys during the night and I'm sure he'll find more speed as he spends more time on the bike.
I agree, I think it was awesome, the question really goes to the guys hiring him!
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Did he not get offered a ride or did he not accept any offers? I have no idea.

Maybe he has received a dozen offers but none of them were the dollar amount he was after. Maybe Malcolm is basing his worth off of the Stewart name and is expecting way more than his actual worth to the teams.

There is a NFL player that is threatening to retire next year if he gets the franchise tag....which means he will only make 14 mil for the season. Maybe Malcolm is willing to sit out if he’s not getting the $$$ he wants.
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1/15/2018 3:27pm
Of course he knows why – but marketing 101 dictates that he shouldn't come out saying, "I thought I was hotter shit than I was... and I shouldn't have taken half the year off" – though I'd argue he'd get a lot of respect back if he did stand up and say it.

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