Does Dungey get to run the #5?

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Edited Date/Time 5/5/2022 3:35pm
No one has claimed it, but does he still own it or can claim it? It's been far more than 2 seasons of not earning any points.

Is the 222 free (I have no idea) for Tony's stint in the U.S.?

Can Scott Meshey sell his 84 like a popular web domain to uh, I dunno, someone that might want it?

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DC also said AC222 will be running the 222 as it was held open for this scenario. Now….does Herlings get to run the 84 is the question???
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Already discussed,
Dungey-5 (AMA signed off)
Cairoli-222 (will cost him a signed jersey per Matthes)
84-If Herlings comes would you want to be the guy known as drawing a line in the sand over a number?
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Chris_Buehler 5/2/2022 7:30pm
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mxbigd17 wrote:
DC also said AC222 will be running the 222 as it was held open for this scenario. Now….does Herlings get to run the 84 is the...
DC also said AC222 will be running the 222 as it was held open for this scenario. Now….does Herlings get to run the 84 is the question???
Scott Meshey is 84. So no
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dnf736 wrote:
Already discussed, Dungey-5 (AMA signed off) Cairoli-222 (will cost him a signed jersey per Matthes) 84-If Herlings comes would you want to be the guy known...
Already discussed,
Dungey-5 (AMA signed off)
Cairoli-222 (will cost him a signed jersey per Matthes)
84-If Herlings comes would you want to be the guy known as drawing a line in the sand over a number?
Number 84 is already assigned to someone that has earned a top 100 number. Can’t see them take that away to give to a guest to the series. Isn’t the early 100 numbers reserved for visitors? You know the whole Hanny 100 dealio.
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dnf736 wrote:
Already discussed, Dungey-5 (AMA signed off) Cairoli-222 (will cost him a signed jersey per Matthes) 84-If Herlings comes would you want to be the guy known...
Already discussed,
Dungey-5 (AMA signed off)
Cairoli-222 (will cost him a signed jersey per Matthes)
84-If Herlings comes would you want to be the guy known as drawing a line in the sand over a number?
brocster wrote:
Number 84 is already assigned to someone that has earned a top 100 number. Can’t see them take that away to give to a guest to...
Number 84 is already assigned to someone that has earned a top 100 number. Can’t see them take that away to give to a guest to the series. Isn’t the early 100 numbers reserved for visitors? You know the whole Hanny 100 dealio.
I would assume Herlings will run the 784 he ran last time he raced Iron Man. Or maybe, he'll go 70s old school and run the 84X in electrical tape.
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When Americans race in other countries they run initials.
It would be good to see that the opposite way.
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dnf736 wrote:
Already discussed, Dungey-5 (AMA signed off) Cairoli-222 (will cost him a signed jersey per Matthes) 84-If Herlings comes would you want to be the guy known...
Already discussed,
Dungey-5 (AMA signed off)
Cairoli-222 (will cost him a signed jersey per Matthes)
84-If Herlings comes would you want to be the guy known as drawing a line in the sand over a number?
brocster wrote:
Number 84 is already assigned to someone that has earned a top 100 number. Can’t see them take that away to give to a guest to...
Number 84 is already assigned to someone that has earned a top 100 number. Can’t see them take that away to give to a guest to the series. Isn’t the early 100 numbers reserved for visitors? You know the whole Hanny 100 dealio.
Sully wrote:
I would assume Herlings will run the 784 he ran last time he raced Iron Man. Or maybe, he'll go 70s old school and run the...
I would assume Herlings will run the 784 he ran last time he raced Iron Man. Or maybe, he'll go 70s old school and run the 84X in electrical tape.
Made me think of the Jody’s Box about guys melting down because signup told them to put the X on, lol
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NorCalRedRyder 5/2/2022 9:40pm
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Meshey has the balls to race Supercross with the big boys unlike Herlings, so he keeps his number. Question is who pulls out of the Nationals first? Herlings or
Roczen? I bet Roczen makes at least 4 races before he pulls out. Jeffy won't make it past round 2.
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Dirt.Squirt 5/2/2022 10:56pm
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NorCalRedRyder wrote:
Meshey has the balls to race Supercross with the big boys unlike Herlings, so he keeps his number. Question is who pulls out of the Nationals...
Meshey has the balls to race Supercross with the big boys unlike Herlings, so he keeps his number. Question is who pulls out of the Nationals first? Herlings or
Roczen? I bet Roczen makes at least 4 races before he pulls out. Jeffy won't make it past round 2.
You need to calm down
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NorCalRedRyder 5/2/2022 11:50pm
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Dirt.Squirt wrote:
You need to calm down
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Let's make a cash bet. Both are gone by round 4....if they even show. Let me know what your willing to lose.
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NorCalRedRyder wrote:
Let's make a cash bet. Both are gone by round 4....if they even show. Let me know what your willing to lose.
Well, not sure why you feel the need to offer me your bet, but considering that Herlings will probably not make it to Pala with his heel injury, there’s really no bet to make.
I’m not interested in betting on Kenny, he’s definitely an unknown contender at this point.
But hey… I like a good bet, let’s find something else to bet on ! Wink
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Dirt.Squirt wrote:
You need to calm down
langhammx wrote:
TongueTongue
NorCalRedRyder wrote:
Let's make a cash bet. Both are gone by round 4....if they even show. Let me know what your willing to lose.
Im a gambling man but not willing to bet on roczen not pulling out or even lining up and I don’t believe healings will be here
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NorCalRedRyder wrote:
Meshey has the balls to race Supercross with the big boys unlike Herlings, so he keeps his number. Question is who pulls out of the Nationals...
Meshey has the balls to race Supercross with the big boys unlike Herlings, so he keeps his number. Question is who pulls out of the Nationals first? Herlings or
Roczen? I bet Roczen makes at least 4 races before he pulls out. Jeffy won't make it past round 2.
You’re really starting to look pathetic.
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mxbigd17 wrote:
DC also said AC222 will be running the 222 as it was held open for this scenario. Now….does Herlings get to run the 84 is the...
DC also said AC222 will be running the 222 as it was held open for this scenario. Now….does Herlings get to run the 84 is the question???
No, Herlings would not be #84 if he came, that number was assigned for 2022 based on 2021 points and is not transferable. Herlings used #784 the last time he was here. In the case of Dungey #5 was open and the AMA felt that they would make an exception for his comeback, however long it lasts. And #222 has been used the last couple of seasons by Brandon Hugney of Pennsylvania, but he has not qualified or picked up any points with it yet, and agreed that Cairoli could use it as well since the AMA can work around a possible duplicate in any given race with the electronic timing and scoring. That's not standard practice but given Cairoli's situation with his trademark #222 (it was retired by the FIM last year) and the unique marketing opportunities and global familiarity with it, they made this exception.

Never thought even just a week ago that we would be seeing both #5 and #222 on a starting gate this summer!

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DC wrote:
No, Herlings would not be #84 if he came, that number was assigned for 2022 based on 2021 points and is not transferable. Herlings used #784...
No, Herlings would not be #84 if he came, that number was assigned for 2022 based on 2021 points and is not transferable. Herlings used #784 the last time he was here. In the case of Dungey #5 was open and the AMA felt that they would make an exception for his comeback, however long it lasts. And #222 has been used the last couple of seasons by Brandon Hugney of Pennsylvania, but he has not qualified or picked up any points with it yet, and agreed that Cairoli could use it as well since the AMA can work around a possible duplicate in any given race with the electronic timing and scoring. That's not standard practice but given Cairoli's situation with his trademark #222 (it was retired by the FIM last year) and the unique marketing opportunities and global familiarity with it, they made this exception.

Never thought even just a week ago that we would be seeing both #5 and #222 on a starting gate this summer!

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Why can't he run 84x? I know this is at the professional level and not weekend district races. But 84 is also the Marketing number for Herlings too..
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DC wrote:
No, Herlings would not be #84 if he came, that number was assigned for 2022 based on 2021 points and is not transferable. Herlings used #784...
No, Herlings would not be #84 if he came, that number was assigned for 2022 based on 2021 points and is not transferable. Herlings used #784 the last time he was here. In the case of Dungey #5 was open and the AMA felt that they would make an exception for his comeback, however long it lasts. And #222 has been used the last couple of seasons by Brandon Hugney of Pennsylvania, but he has not qualified or picked up any points with it yet, and agreed that Cairoli could use it as well since the AMA can work around a possible duplicate in any given race with the electronic timing and scoring. That's not standard practice but given Cairoli's situation with his trademark #222 (it was retired by the FIM last year) and the unique marketing opportunities and global familiarity with it, they made this exception.

Never thought even just a week ago that we would be seeing both #5 and #222 on a starting gate this summer!

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nrosso391 wrote:
Why can't he run 84x? I know this is at the professional level and not weekend district races. But 84 is also the Marketing number for...
Why can't he run 84x? I know this is at the professional level and not weekend district races. But 84 is also the Marketing number for Herlings too..
First of all, he hasn't requested it, that I know of. Second of all, somebody earned #84 for 2022, and the AMA has rules in place. In the case of #222, the number was requested, not earned, and the rider was okay with sharing it for however long Cairoli is here. As for #5, no one is using, and the AMA felt it would be more interesting to see #5 out there again as compared to #212 or whatever else KTM and Dungey might have asked for.

Jeffrey used #784 last time, and this year in MXGP he was going to wear #1... Maybe Dennis Stapleton will share #184 with Jeffrey?!!

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DC wrote:
No, Herlings would not be #84 if he came, that number was assigned for 2022 based on 2021 points and is not transferable. Herlings used #784...
No, Herlings would not be #84 if he came, that number was assigned for 2022 based on 2021 points and is not transferable. Herlings used #784 the last time he was here. In the case of Dungey #5 was open and the AMA felt that they would make an exception for his comeback, however long it lasts. And #222 has been used the last couple of seasons by Brandon Hugney of Pennsylvania, but he has not qualified or picked up any points with it yet, and agreed that Cairoli could use it as well since the AMA can work around a possible duplicate in any given race with the electronic timing and scoring. That's not standard practice but given Cairoli's situation with his trademark #222 (it was retired by the FIM last year) and the unique marketing opportunities and global familiarity with it, they made this exception.

Never thought even just a week ago that we would be seeing both #5 and #222 on a starting gate this summer!

DC
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nrosso391 wrote:
Why can't he run 84x? I know this is at the professional level and not weekend district races. But 84 is also the Marketing number for...
Why can't he run 84x? I know this is at the professional level and not weekend district races. But 84 is also the Marketing number for Herlings too..
DC wrote:
First of all, he hasn't requested it, that I know of. Second of all, somebody earned #84 for 2022, and the AMA has rules in place...
First of all, he hasn't requested it, that I know of. Second of all, somebody earned #84 for 2022, and the AMA has rules in place. In the case of #222, the number was requested, not earned, and the rider was okay with sharing it for however long Cairoli is here. As for #5, no one is using, and the AMA felt it would be more interesting to see #5 out there again as compared to #212 or whatever else KTM and Dungey might have asked for.

Jeffrey used #784 last time, and this year in MXGP he was going to wear #1... Maybe Dennis Stapleton will share #184 with Jeffrey?!!

DC
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Surely Dungey can pick any single digit number available since he's a national champion.

Using the 5 shouldn't be an exception. He should be able to pick it since he's won a national championship.

I guess he could take #8 or #4 also if he wanted something different.
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Dirt.Squirt 5/3/2022 8:17am
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Herlings should run 111! Aren’t the low 100s reserved for foreign champions coming to America?
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nrosso391 5/3/2022 8:44am
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DC wrote:
No, Herlings would not be #84 if he came, that number was assigned for 2022 based on 2021 points and is not transferable. Herlings used #784...
No, Herlings would not be #84 if he came, that number was assigned for 2022 based on 2021 points and is not transferable. Herlings used #784 the last time he was here. In the case of Dungey #5 was open and the AMA felt that they would make an exception for his comeback, however long it lasts. And #222 has been used the last couple of seasons by Brandon Hugney of Pennsylvania, but he has not qualified or picked up any points with it yet, and agreed that Cairoli could use it as well since the AMA can work around a possible duplicate in any given race with the electronic timing and scoring. That's not standard practice but given Cairoli's situation with his trademark #222 (it was retired by the FIM last year) and the unique marketing opportunities and global familiarity with it, they made this exception.

Never thought even just a week ago that we would be seeing both #5 and #222 on a starting gate this summer!

DC
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nrosso391 wrote:
Why can't he run 84x? I know this is at the professional level and not weekend district races. But 84 is also the Marketing number for...
Why can't he run 84x? I know this is at the professional level and not weekend district races. But 84 is also the Marketing number for Herlings too..
DC wrote:
First of all, he hasn't requested it, that I know of. Second of all, somebody earned #84 for 2022, and the AMA has rules in place...
First of all, he hasn't requested it, that I know of. Second of all, somebody earned #84 for 2022, and the AMA has rules in place. In the case of #222, the number was requested, not earned, and the rider was okay with sharing it for however long Cairoli is here. As for #5, no one is using, and the AMA felt it would be more interesting to see #5 out there again as compared to #212 or whatever else KTM and Dungey might have asked for.

Jeffrey used #784 last time, and this year in MXGP he was going to wear #1... Maybe Dennis Stapleton will share #184 with Jeffrey?!!

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AWESOME. Thanks DC.
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dnf736 wrote:
Already discussed, Dungey-5 (AMA signed off) Cairoli-222 (will cost him a signed jersey per Matthes) 84-If Herlings comes would you want to be the guy known...
Already discussed,
Dungey-5 (AMA signed off)
Cairoli-222 (will cost him a signed jersey per Matthes)
84-If Herlings comes would you want to be the guy known as drawing a line in the sand over a number?
Hell yeah, I'd want to be the guy who claimed my own damn earned number. Does he want to sleep with my wife, too?

You don't see me heading over to the GPs and asking if I can run #84 over there.
Herlings can run #1 next year if he earns it, or whatever two-digit number he earns on points. Take my number this season? No way. I'd expect the same from him in Europe if the roles were reversed.
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Chris_Buehler 5/3/2022 8:48am
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DC wrote:
No, Herlings would not be #84 if he came, that number was assigned for 2022 based on 2021 points and is not transferable. Herlings used #784...
No, Herlings would not be #84 if he came, that number was assigned for 2022 based on 2021 points and is not transferable. Herlings used #784 the last time he was here. In the case of Dungey #5 was open and the AMA felt that they would make an exception for his comeback, however long it lasts. And #222 has been used the last couple of seasons by Brandon Hugney of Pennsylvania, but he has not qualified or picked up any points with it yet, and agreed that Cairoli could use it as well since the AMA can work around a possible duplicate in any given race with the electronic timing and scoring. That's not standard practice but given Cairoli's situation with his trademark #222 (it was retired by the FIM last year) and the unique marketing opportunities and global familiarity with it, they made this exception.

Never thought even just a week ago that we would be seeing both #5 and #222 on a starting gate this summer!

DC
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nrosso391 wrote:
Why can't he run 84x? I know this is at the professional level and not weekend district races. But 84 is also the Marketing number for...
Why can't he run 84x? I know this is at the professional level and not weekend district races. But 84 is also the Marketing number for Herlings too..
DC wrote:
First of all, he hasn't requested it, that I know of. Second of all, somebody earned #84 for 2022, and the AMA has rules in place...
First of all, he hasn't requested it, that I know of. Second of all, somebody earned #84 for 2022, and the AMA has rules in place. In the case of #222, the number was requested, not earned, and the rider was okay with sharing it for however long Cairoli is here. As for #5, no one is using, and the AMA felt it would be more interesting to see #5 out there again as compared to #212 or whatever else KTM and Dungey might have asked for.

Jeffrey used #784 last time, and this year in MXGP he was going to wear #1... Maybe Dennis Stapleton will share #184 with Jeffrey?!!

DC
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Cool that sn MXGP champ was finally going to run the #1. Was of the best things the AMA got right was that the previous years champ has to run the number 1.
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Renner153 5/3/2022 9:01am
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mxbigd17 wrote:
DC also said AC222 will be running the 222 as it was held open for this scenario. Now….does Herlings get to run the 84 is the...
DC also said AC222 will be running the 222 as it was held open for this scenario. Now….does Herlings get to run the 84 is the question???
DC wrote:
No, Herlings would not be #84 if he came, that number was assigned for 2022 based on 2021 points and is not transferable. Herlings used #784...
No, Herlings would not be #84 if he came, that number was assigned for 2022 based on 2021 points and is not transferable. Herlings used #784 the last time he was here. In the case of Dungey #5 was open and the AMA felt that they would make an exception for his comeback, however long it lasts. And #222 has been used the last couple of seasons by Brandon Hugney of Pennsylvania, but he has not qualified or picked up any points with it yet, and agreed that Cairoli could use it as well since the AMA can work around a possible duplicate in any given race with the electronic timing and scoring. That's not standard practice but given Cairoli's situation with his trademark #222 (it was retired by the FIM last year) and the unique marketing opportunities and global familiarity with it, they made this exception.

Never thought even just a week ago that we would be seeing both #5 and #222 on a starting gate this summer!

DC
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Are we actually sure the AMA is capable of figuring out which one is Cairoli and which one is the other guy? Im not that confident in them.
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Thanks for the update DC. Hope the storms in Morgantown stayed clear of you.
Alas, they did not. And they hit Indiana hard too, which is where the GNCC is headed this weekend--if they can drain the place first.

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Let 'em both run #84.

One bike is orange another is black and white. Not too hard to tell them apart
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