Do we want a third east/west 250 race?

langhammx
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4/5/2022 7:39pm
This is brutal but if you’re not making the night show, and some mains in the 250 class that has all the riders from both coasts...
This is brutal but if you’re not making the night show, and some mains in the 250 class that has all the riders from both coasts, it’s time for MX to be a hobby, not a job.
So let’s pretend that all the 250 guys were healthy.
With your logic, everyone outside the top 40 should find a new job ?


Top 20 guys (random list) -
All with factory support

Craig
H.Lawrence
J. Lawrence
Nichols
J. Cooper
Mosiman
Forkner
Vohland
J. Martin
Swoll
RJ Hampshire
Shimoda
Thrasher
Marchbanks
Kitchen
J. Reynolds
P. Brown
McAdoo
Robertson
Hammaker


35 more dudes trying to make the main-
Not to mention having to travel across the US

(15 of them and anyone else wanting to try, should find a new job ?)

Do you not think it would hurt the sport ?


J. Smith
Oldenburg
Nicoletti
Chiz
Friese
Schock
Wageman
J. Owen
Mumford
Lopes
Drake
Harrison
Peters
Frye
Robin
C. Brown
Munoz
Surratt
C. Thompson
Karnow
Steinke
Short
M. Weltin
H. Miller
Falk
Harlan
Kilroy
Sayles
Masterpoole
Swartz
Rodbell
Thury
Cartwright
Osby
D. Kelley



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4/5/2022 10:51pm
Craig would work Jett imo. Craig's whoop speed is significantly faster than Jett's.
langhammx wrote:
We will all find out soon enough. Don’t underestimate Jett Lawrence, he’s proven himself to be a winner. I hope they start 1-2 and put on...
We will all find out soon enough. Don’t underestimate Jett Lawrence, he’s proven himself to be a winner. I hope they start 1-2 and put on a show for us, they are both riding exceptionally well.
I'm looking forward to it. I hope they both start 1 and 2 in the main and put on on a clinic.
mx313
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4/5/2022 11:21pm
Craig would work Jett imo. Craig's whoop speed is significantly faster than Jett's.
langhammx wrote:
We will all find out soon enough. Don’t underestimate Jett Lawrence, he’s proven himself to be a winner. I hope they start 1-2 and put on...
We will all find out soon enough. Don’t underestimate Jett Lawrence, he’s proven himself to be a winner. I hope they start 1-2 and put on a show for us, they are both riding exceptionally well.
We forget when jett was in 13th and caught Craig who was in 2nd.. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/04/05/542195/s1200_maxresdefault.jpg[/img]
We forget when jett was in 13th and caught Craig who was in 2nd..


Jett was pretty far back. I wouldn't be surprised if he was further back then 13th. Did he crash twice? I remember something happened. Then he tangled with another rider on the wall jump. And had to come back down the front and go back up again.
In that race jett woyld have been 15-20 seconds behind Craig after 5 laps.
4/6/2022 8:26am
Jett VS Christian VS Mosiman VS Mcadoo VS Hunter

Plus Hampshire, Shimoda, Brown...

Yeah, I want to see that race more often than not.
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mx313
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4/6/2022 8:57pm
Jett mentioned in the most recent interview he wont be pushing it come east vs west. He said if Craigs in front, he would settle for...
Jett mentioned in the most recent interview he wont be pushing it come east vs west. He said if Craigs in front, he would settle for second. His priority is staying in front of Macadoo and the championship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpUUFeoxCjg
The way I see it is the east/west shoot out is the opportunity for jett to extend his points by a big margin. So his goal should be to push to beat Craig.
Atm jett can beat mcadoo by 20+ seconds and he only extends by 3 points.
In the east/west there is potential macadoo finishes behind Hunter, mosiman and shimoda or a couple of them. If jett beats Craig that's 3 more points. So that could be 9 points gained in 1 weekend instead of 6. So I see it as an opportunity for jett.
4/6/2022 9:10pm Edited Date/Time 4/6/2022 9:13pm
The whole series should be changed into a MotoGP model, 3 classes, 125/250 Amateurs, 250 Premier and 450 Premier.

This way privateers/young factory riders can be in the amateur class.

Qualifying and main events.

I'm pretty sure the world supercross will be based on something like this.
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4/7/2022 6:32am Edited Date/Time 4/9/2022 8:57pm
WEST COAST

Wins

4 = Christian Craig
2 = Hunter Lawrence
1 = Michael Mosiman

Podiums

7 = Christian Craig
6 = Hunter Lawrence
4 = Michael Mosiman
2 = Seth Hammaker
1 = Vince Friese
1 = Jo Shimoda

Heat wins

6 = Christian Craig
3 = Michael Mosiman
1 = Hunter Lawrence
1 = Garrett Marchbanks
1 = Vince Friese

Fastest in practice

5 = Christian Craig
1 = Hunter Lawrence
1 = Michael Mosiman

Laps lead

75 = Christian Craig
33 = Michael Mosiman
23 = Hunter Lawrence
3 = Vince Friese
1 = Jo Shimoda

Fastest lap of the race

5 = Christian Craig
4 = Michael Mosiman

EAST COAST

Wins

4 = Jett Lawrence
1 = Cameron Mcadoo
1 = RJ Hampshire

Podiums

6 = Jett Lawrence
5 = Cameron Mcadoo
2 = RJ Hampshire
1 = Pierce Brown
1 = Stilez Robertson
1 = Jeremy Martin
1 = Austin Forkner
1 = Mitchell Oldenburg

Heat wins

3 = Jett Lawrence
2 = RJ Hampshire
2 = Pierce Brown
1 = Cameron Mcadoo

Fastest in practice

5 = Jett Lawrence
1 = Austin Forkner

Laps lead

105 = Jett Lawrence
21 = RJ Hampshire
18 = Cameron Mcadoo
11 = Austin Forkner
4 = Stilez Robertson
2 = Pierce Brown
1 = Mitchell Oldenburg

Fastest lap of the race

7 = Jett Lawrence
2 = Cameron Mcadoo
1 = RJ Hampshire

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nrosso391
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4/7/2022 6:45am
Boomslang wrote:
The whole series needs to be East / West combined. Then we'll have a proper championship.
AngryBear wrote:
good for racing, yes. but unfortunately, almost half the rides if that happens.
Not true. What if I told you those same teams already run their 4-6 riders in the outdoor national series...
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mccread
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4/7/2022 6:55am
Yes, at least three and make it the 250 supercross series - preferably it would be every round or the first half split into coasts then the second half of the year all that qualify going into the final rounds for the national championship, like the playoffs.
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sandtrack315
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4/7/2022 7:46am
This is brutal but if you’re not making the night show, and some mains in the 250 class that has all the riders from both coasts...
This is brutal but if you’re not making the night show, and some mains in the 250 class that has all the riders from both coasts, it’s time for MX to be a hobby, not a job.
langhammx wrote:
So let’s pretend that all the 250 guys were healthy. With your logic, everyone outside the top 40 should find a new job ? Top 20...
So let’s pretend that all the 250 guys were healthy.
With your logic, everyone outside the top 40 should find a new job ?


Top 20 guys (random list) -
All with factory support

Craig
H.Lawrence
J. Lawrence
Nichols
J. Cooper
Mosiman
Forkner
Vohland
J. Martin
Swoll
RJ Hampshire
Shimoda
Thrasher
Marchbanks
Kitchen
J. Reynolds
P. Brown
McAdoo
Robertson
Hammaker


35 more dudes trying to make the main-
Not to mention having to travel across the US

(15 of them and anyone else wanting to try, should find a new job ?)

Do you not think it would hurt the sport ?


J. Smith
Oldenburg
Nicoletti
Chiz
Friese
Schock
Wageman
J. Owen
Mumford
Lopes
Drake
Harrison
Peters
Frye
Robin
C. Brown
Munoz
Surratt
C. Thompson
Karnow
Steinke
Short
M. Weltin
H. Miller
Falk
Harlan
Kilroy
Sayles
Masterpoole
Swartz
Rodbell
Thury
Cartwright
Osby
D. Kelley



Yes, everyone outside the top 40 in a combined 250 class should find a new job and ride for fun. Why risk the injuries and defer pay / starting a career for 5-10 years?

Look, I get giving it a full go for 2-3 years at the pro level. If you can't break the top 40 in the little class by then, you will never make good money racing dirt bikes. Hell, even if you are just cracking the top 40 in the 450 class, you probably won't make much money racing.

I moved to Temecula, rode full time, trained with Ryan Hughes. After 2 years, and I knew I was just never going to be fast enough to make a living riding. I enrolled in community college and kept riding for fun.

This in no way would "hurt the sport". 99 percent of people go to the races to see the top guys in the 450 class, not the people who can barely make it through the whoops. Presumedly, these dudes would still buy bikes and parts and ride for fun.
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