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selous scout selous scout
6/16/2018 1:32 PM

Price and dependability = shyte/ agree or disagree.

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MXATC MXATC
6/16/2018 1:34 PM

Agree but it's not going to happen anytime soon.

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Landonious217 Landonious217
6/16/2018 2:07 PM

A modern 450 is no where close to the reliability of a 20 year old 500....

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BMSOBx2 BMSOBx2
6/16/2018 2:23 PM

You can do a whole top end on a 2 stroke cheaper.

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Idaho747 Idaho747
6/16/2018 2:30 PM

Yes the price does suck. Big time. But I haven’t seen many 250 smokers go 200+ hours on a top end. So dependability I don’t agree with

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RMT RMT
6/16/2018 2:44 PM

They do still sell 2 stroke mx bikes. If everyone would just come to the same agreement as you and buy a 2 stroke instead of a 4, everything would switch back to the smokers. Kind of like when everyone quit buying 2 strokes around 03-04 and Suzuki and Kawasaki couldn’t give away one. They switched due to market demand. That could work the other way but for some strange reason it doesn’t.

Different strokes for different folks.

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Wells423 Wells423
6/16/2018 3:01 PM

I’ve had no reliably from any of my 4 strokes and I ride 250f’s. Vet guys can get plenty of life out of any modern 4 strokes and they’re easier to ride.

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kiwifan kiwifan
6/16/2018 3:09 PM

Yawn

Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1000L

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steve_97060 steve_97060
6/16/2018 3:19 PM

I have never heard this argument before, we must ponder this...

It's the nexus of the crisis
And the origin of storms

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nytsmaC nytsmaC
6/16/2018 3:22 PM

Can someone start a 2 vs 4 poll to settle this once and for all?

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steve_97060 steve_97060
6/16/2018 3:29 PM
nytsmaC wrote:

Can someone start a 2 vs 4 ...more

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It's the nexus of the crisis
And the origin of storms

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Shiftfaced Shiftfaced
6/16/2018 4:12 PM

Specifically when faced with a “seat bounce” jump, the 2T is dominate, only if it was broke in with synthetic oils.

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smashingpumpkins167 smashingpumpkins167
6/16/2018 4:25 PM

Mortal Kombat for the Sega Genesis is the best game ever made.

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Felix71 Felix71
6/16/2018 4:26 PM

Buy one of each. Ride your 2 Stroke when you want to feel like you’re hauling ass. Use your 4 stroke to actually go fast and win races. If you’re worried about repair costs you’re in the wrong sport and need a better job.

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JOE_SPROCKETS#1 JOE_SPROCKETS#1
6/16/2018 4:27 PM

I disagree. Although mortal kombat is a fine game Donkey Kong is the greatest ever!

"Shifting gears and passing queers" GL

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b_kowalsk b_kowalsk
6/16/2018 4:28 PM

I would prefer a mix of them, level the rules out and let them both play! Makes it more fun and interesting.

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blackdiamond blackdiamond
6/16/2018 4:39 PM
Felix71 wrote:

Buy one of each. Ride your ...more

Tell that to Chris Alldredge and see what he thinks.

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nytsmaC nytsmaC
6/16/2018 4:40 PM
nytsmaC wrote:

Can someone start a 2 vs 4 ...more

steve_97060 wrote:

You don’t understand, we didn’t have this poll feature before to make it conclusive.

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Felix71 Felix71
6/16/2018 4:51 PM
Felix71 wrote:

Buy one of each. Ride your ...more

blackdiamond wrote:

Tell that to Chris ...more

I think he would 100% agree with me.

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Motocross83 Motocross83
6/16/2018 5:03 PM

If we're honest I think most of us probably feel as though we're going faster than we are in real life regardless of what it is we're riding... Once you get into the realms of pro/semi pro etc then yeah, I can definitely see the importance of a 4 stroke with a goal to winning. For the rest of us; we probably end up going through the same corners the same speed we're comfortable with every time regardless. Personally I'm getting back into 2 strokes again - particularly interested in the evo stuff (but of course each to their own).

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user760a user760a
6/16/2018 5:45 PM

I have little to no desire to ride any two strokes, ever. and I grew up riding them. The typical two stroke powerband is so inferior to smooth four stroke power... i have no use for them. So, disagree i guess

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Jake125 Jake125
6/16/2018 5:50 PM

I never really got used to, or liked the engine braking on the 4 strokes, I like being able to downshift in the corners, keep on the clutch, and upshift out of them, I don't ride or really want to ride professionally, I just ride for fun, and I have a smile on my face riding that 2 stroke! (I've got a 2002 Honda CR125 and had a few Kawasaki 2 strokes before the CR) love the 2 strokes, so much lighter and cheaper to maintain as well.... for me, I've always wanted to build up a CRF450R supermoto for the streets, 4 strokes make better street bikes, where 2 strokes make better race bikes imo

But as someone said above, different strokes for different folks!

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GuyB GuyB
6/16/2018 6:12 PM

Does that include speedway bikes and cruisers?

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fullysicmate fullysicmate
6/16/2018 6:22 PM
Jake125 wrote:

I never really got used ...more

I agree with everything you have said, the only reason I prefer 4 strokes is the reliability you get out of them with simple maintenance. And no mixing fuel.
I am looking forward to the electric bike takeover.

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Jake125 Jake125
6/16/2018 6:28 PM
Jake125 wrote:

I never really got used ...more

fullysicmate wrote:

I agree with everything ...more

Yeah I'm not a huge fan of the mixing fuel thing either, I liked just packing up the bikes in the truck and stopping by a gas station on the way to the track and full up the bike and my 5 gallon gas can when I had my 4 strokes...

But like I just said, I just have alot more fun on the 2 stroke, especially becasue not many people around my ride 2 strokes, so being at the track tearing it up on a 2 stroke is alot of fun!laughing

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JBernard_401 JBernard_401
6/16/2018 6:30 PM
user760a wrote:

I have little to no desire ...more

I completely agree. I used to ride mx bikes but now I have quads. The power is so linear and smooth, and the tractability of the extra 13" wide wheel makes riding so easy and effortless. I can ride 2x as long as I did on my mx bikes! It's so easy to go fast and I don't get near as tired because I'm on a mobile couch!


-'09 KX500AF

- '19 KX450F

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LocomotiveBreath LocomotiveBreath
6/16/2018 6:30 PM

Not. Gunna. Happen. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. That's also why 2strokes will not go away, either.

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resetjet resetjet
6/16/2018 6:40 PM

ditch this conversation once and for all.

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Johnny Ringo Johnny Ringo
6/16/2018 6:42 PM
user760a wrote:

I have little to no desire ...more

JBernard_401 wrote:

I completely agree. I used ...more

Quads and four strokes are not comparable. Nice cast.

Alright Lunger, Let's Do It

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Idaho747 Idaho747
6/16/2018 6:47 PM
user760a wrote:

I have little to no desire ...more

JBernard_401 wrote:

I completely agree. I used ...more

Johnny Ringo wrote:

Quads and four strokes are ...more

Glad I wasn’t the only one trying to make sense of this.

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