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8/14/2017 7:16 PM

doofy wrote:

After reading all this im curious as to what made RV able to beat Dungey time after time.

Aldon said Dungey is the most ...more

Never bet against a short readhead with freckles . Even more so if he trains in Florida

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8/14/2017 7:21 PM

doofy wrote:

After reading all this im curious as to what made RV able to beat Dungey time after time.

Aldon said Dungey is the most ...more

Dungey wouldn't have looped it on the MXGP circuit like a rookie I'll tell you that much. Hehehe....

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8/14/2017 7:29 PM
Edited Date/Time: 8/14/2017 7:30 PM

Tomac still has a long way to go to catch these guys.

1. Ricky Carmichael 15 Championships and 150 Wins
2. Ryan Villopoto 9 Championships and 72 Wins
3. Jeremy McGrath 8 Championships and 89 Wins
4. Ryan Dungey 8 Championships and 80 Wins
5. Rick Johnson 7 Championships and 61 Wins
6. Jeff Ward 7 Championships and 57 Wins
7. Bob Hannah 6 Championships and 62 Wins
8. Broc Glover 6 Championships and 45 Wins
9. Jeff Stanton 6 Championships and 37 Wins
10. James Stewart 5 Championships and 98 Wins

?. Eli Tomac 1 Championship and 34 Wins

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8/14/2017 7:32 PM

akillerwombat wrote:

And which one do more people remember?

TXDirt wrote:

That may be more a reflection of your attention span.

Which do people remember and which one actually matters.

akillerwombat wrote:

It's a reflection of the nature of sports history; we always remember those with amazing accomplishments but we never stop ...more

Probably depends on who you are talking with don't you think? That's like calling a guy at ESPN a journalist because of a 45 word "hot take" blog post.

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8/14/2017 7:50 PM

Maverick313 wrote:

Tomac still has a long way to go to catch these guys.

1. Ricky Carmichael 15 Championships and 150 Wins
2. Ryan Villopoto 9 ...more

While there is no arguing Tomac has a long way to go to being anywhere near those guys I don't necessarily believe titles are the only way to determine how good a rider is as there are plenty of very fast and polarizing riders that didn't wrack up as many wins or titles ie. Bradshaw or Bayle. Not trying to say that Tomac is at all better than any of the guys you listed because he clearly is not, but I just don't really think the titles tell all the stories.

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8/14/2017 8:04 PM

TXDirt wrote:

That's like comparing an at bat to a full baseball season.

If you look at an at bat, a guy hits a monster 500 foot homerun. ...more

akillerwombat wrote:

And which one do more people remember?

TXDirt wrote:

That may be more a reflection of your attention span.

Which do people remember and which one actually matters.

Tell that to Kirk Gibson

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8/14/2017 8:51 PM

cali11 wrote:

RV threw that title a way over a triple

1st Amendment wrote:

I didn't know someone 13 points down could throw the title away

Hut wrote:

12 points down and when you are Ryan Villopoto the SX title is yours!

If it was his he would of made that triple in St.Louis

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8/14/2017 8:57 PM

1st Amendment wrote:

I didn't know someone 13 points down could throw the title away

Hut wrote:

12 points down and when you are Ryan Villopoto the SX title is yours!

1st Amendment wrote:

If it was his he would of made that triple in St.Louis

If he wouldn't had blown out the dirt to plywood on that damn section he would have won out and took that title like every other one.

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8/14/2017 9:20 PM

doofy wrote:

After reading all this im curious as to what made RV able to beat Dungey time after time.

Aldon said Dungey is the most ...more

BobbyM wrote:

Dungey wouldn't have looped it on the MXGP circuit like a rookie I'll tell you that much. Hehehe....

Maybe not.....but he got beat year after year by a guy who did. Christ....even RC " The Goat " did it. Shit happens.

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And there goes Jeffro. One of God's own prototypes. A super high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Pimpin' Ho's , Rollin' fatty's......drinkin' beers , beers , beers!! ~ Ja

8/14/2017 9:21 PM

Hut wrote:

If he wouldn't had blown out the dirt to plywood on that damn section he would have won out and took that title like every ...more

On the Suzuki, Dungey was very much the equal of RV. Dungeys first years on KTM were underrated, the bike was worse than he had previously.

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8/14/2017 9:22 PM

DNA

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8/14/2017 9:54 PM

TDeath21 wrote:

Villopoto, in my opinion, is the second best all time AMA rider. Dungey is fourth in my opinion. Carmichael first and McGrath ...more

Didn't Dungey crash while chasing after Roczen?

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8/15/2017 12:34 AM

Hut wrote:

12 points down and when you are Ryan Villopoto the SX title is yours!

1st Amendment wrote:

If it was his he would of made that triple in St.Louis

Hut wrote:

If he wouldn't had blown out the dirt to plywood on that damn section he would have won out and took that title like every ...more

Sounds like an excuse to me considering other guys were hitting using the same line that night. Don't worry you'll get over it eventually. Maybe

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8/15/2017 12:42 AM

1st Amendment wrote:

If it was his he would of made that triple in St.Louis

Hut wrote:

If he wouldn't had blown out the dirt to plywood on that damn section he would have won out and took that title like every ...more

1st Amendment wrote:

Sounds like an excuse to me considering other guys were hitting using the same line that night. Don't worry you'll get over it ...more

I remember Chad Reed saying that section was dangerous in practice that day..

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8/15/2017 1:05 AM

Maverick313 wrote:

Tomac still has a long way to go to catch these guys.

1. Ricky Carmichael 15 Championships and 150 Wins
2. Ryan Villopoto 9 ...more

jorgechavez wrote:

While there is no arguing Tomac has a long way to go to being anywhere near those guys I don't necessarily believe titles are ...more

Tomac and Bradshaw are eerily similar. Blinding fast speed. Mental mistakes. Wilt under pressure. Early burn out a possible factor. Not saying Eli is burned out but he doesn't display a whole lot of joy for what he does. And I don't blame him. Racing, riding, testing, training all takes its toll on you. Not to mention the weight of the team and sponsors and your own personal pressure to succeed.

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8/15/2017 1:53 AM

Hut wrote:

If he wouldn't had blown out the dirt to plywood on that damn section he would have won out and took that title like every ...more

1st Amendment wrote:

Sounds like an excuse to me considering other guys were hitting using the same line that night. Don't worry you'll get over it ...more

jorgechavez wrote:

I remember Chad Reed saying that section was dangerous in practice that day..

Maybe he should of doubled into it then

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8/15/2017 2:37 AM

I'll fall off my seat the day Tomac gets starts consistently.. he's terrible.
He needs to rebound at Budds and I'm concerned that he will implode mentally again..
If it goes to Indiana with points close I'm not betting on Tomac to keep it together.
I'm a Tomac fan so I hope he figures it out.

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8/15/2017 5:57 AM
Edited Date/Time: 8/15/2017 5:57 AM

1st Amendment wrote:

If it was his he would of made that triple in St.Louis

Hut wrote:

If he wouldn't had blown out the dirt to plywood on that damn section he would have won out and took that title like every ...more

Adam43 wrote:

On the Suzuki, Dungey was very much the equal of RV. Dungeys first years on KTM were underrated, the bike was worse than he ...more

Let's see the numbers to back that up???

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8/15/2017 7:47 AM

Hut wrote:

If he wouldn't had blown out the dirt to plywood on that damn section he would have won out and took that title like every ...more

Adam43 wrote:

On the Suzuki, Dungey was very much the equal of RV. Dungeys first years on KTM were underrated, the bike was worse than he ...more

Hut wrote:

Let's see the numbers to back that up???

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Overall Points Standings for 2011

SX

Position Rider Hometown Points
1
Ryan Villopoto
Seattle, WA 338
2
Chad Reed
Kurri Kurri, Australia 334
3
Ryan Dungey
Belle Plaine, MN 328
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8/15/2017 8:01 AM
Edited Date/Time: 8/15/2017 8:02 AM

This feels like East Rutherford and 17 Supercross all over again. Tomac better not blow this title like he did his Supercross title. Quit dicking around Eli and go win this damn title.

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8/15/2017 5:27 PM

Adam43 wrote:

On the Suzuki, Dungey was very much the equal of RV. Dungeys first years on KTM were underrated, the bike was worse than he ...more

Hut wrote:

Let's see the numbers to back that up???

EnvyMedia wrote: Photo

Overall Points Standings for 2011

SX

Position Rider Hometown Points
1
Ryan Villopoto
Seattle, WA 338
2
Chad Reed
Kurri ...more

Looks legit to me! One can honestly thank Team Suzuki for going under as well

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8/15/2017 7:04 PM

Hut wrote:

Let's see the numbers to back that up???

EnvyMedia wrote: Photo

Overall Points Standings for 2011

SX

Position Rider Hometown Points
1
Ryan Villopoto
Seattle, WA 338
2
Chad Reed
Kurri ...more
1st Amendment wrote:

Looks legit to me! One can honestly thank Team Suzuki for going under as well

Not to mention he had a DNF in both Supercross and outdoors that year that had he finished in his avg finish would've beat RV for both titles.

Supercross chain failure.

Outdoors boiling gas causing vapor lock.

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