Did Chad just have his Windham moment?

Crush wrote:

There are some sad fucking posts in this thread.

Beeby wrote:

All I see is a man long overdue retiring taking someone else’s spot in the main that might have a future career given the chance. When...

All I see is a man long overdue retiring taking someone else’s spot in the main that might have a future career given the chance.

When was the last time Chad really turned up to a season ready

brocster wrote:

So if Reed politely handed over the spot he officially earned to to someone that wasn’t quite good enough to take it from legitimately, What “chance”...

So if Reed politely handed over the spot he officially earned to to someone that wasn’t quite good enough to take it from legitimately, What “chance” would he be giving them at a future if they weren’t good enough to beat him out of the spot in the first place.

CPR wrote:

Wow there's some pathetic douche bag attitudes in here. Ellie Reed is not some trophy wife. She left her family and friends to go to Europe...

Wow there's some pathetic douche bag attitudes in here.
Ellie Reed is not some trophy wife. She left her family and friends to go to Europe to support Chad when they were both still kids. Think about that for one moment, think about your teenage daughter, sister, niece, whatever, and can you imagine her traveling to the other side of the world to chase a dream with her boyfriend with zero support network. How hard do you think that was. And they bloody did it and have been doing for 20 years on their own terms. Everything the legend Chad Reed has achieved in his great career, they've achieved together. You reckon he could have done it without her?
Whatever Ellie Reed's reasons are for posting about her boobs, they're her own reasons but it certainly expresses a lesson learnt and puts paid to any rumour mongering about why all of a sudden her body changed shape.
Now the original reason for this post was about what happened to Reed last weekend. A question still unanswered, and nothing more the speculation has ensued.
Hopefully A2 brings some enlightenment however it doesn't really matter in the end because that dude is one of the greatest to contest our sport. Let's celebrate that and fuck all this small minded bullshit.

Beeby wrote:

All I see is a man long overdue retiring taking someone else’s spot in the main that might have a future career given the chance. When...

All I see is a man long overdue retiring taking someone else’s spot in the main that might have a future career given the chance.

When was the last time Chad really turned up to a season ready

lumpy790 wrote:

Out of curiosity ..... how many of you have raced with broken ribs like he is doing???

reded wrote:

I’d have a helluva time racing with a broken finger nail but my only obligations are to show up for work on Monday and pay the...

I’d have a helluva time racing with a broken finger nail but my only obligations are to show up for work on Monday and pay the bills on Friday.

harescrambled wrote:

I have raced a harescramble with 4 fractured ribs. I understand now how it can be done, and I also understand how adrenaline can mask pain...

I have raced a harescramble with 4 fractured ribs. I understand now how it can be done, and I also understand how adrenaline can mask pain. That being said, I ended up 2nd in class that day...absolutely fell apart last lap though...could hardly breathe.

I'd bet Chad's head wasn't in the game due to personal concerns though, and I'd also been told that he was having one of those days when no matter what you try you can't things to go the way you want them to.

Beeby wrote:

All I see is a man long overdue retiring taking someone else’s spot in the main that might have a future career given the chance. When...

All I see is a man long overdue retiring taking someone else’s spot in the main that might have a future career given the chance.

When was the last time Chad really turned up to a season ready

Beeby wrote:

All I see is a man long overdue retiring taking someone else’s spot in the main that might have a future career given the chance. When...

All I see is a man long overdue retiring taking someone else’s spot in the main that might have a future career given the chance.

When was the last time Chad really turned up to a season ready

uneasy_rider wrote:

Easily the dumbest fucking comment in this entire thread. If he is holding up anyone, all they have to do is out qualify them!

Momus wrote:

Well said and good on Ellie for being direct and honest about her situation. Other women in the same position with medically dangerous, leaky implants may...

Well said and good on Ellie for being direct and honest about her situation. Other women in the same position with medically dangerous, leaky implants may be helped.

She's stuck by her man and given her best years as well as 3 kids: Being able to share issues and vulnerabilities is the mark of someone strong.

Beeby wrote:

All I see is a man long overdue retiring taking someone else’s spot in the main that might have a future career given the chance. When...

All I see is a man long overdue retiring taking someone else’s spot in the main that might have a future career given the chance.

When was the last time Chad really turned up to a season ready

uneasy_rider wrote:

Easily the dumbest fucking comment in this entire thread. If he is holding up anyone, all they have to do is out qualify them!

Beeby wrote:

Firstly, that you think this is "the dumbest comment in this entire thread" is pretty laughable. Especially when you consider there are people suggesting his wife's...

Firstly, that you think this is "the dumbest comment in this entire thread" is pretty laughable. Especially when you consider there are people suggesting his wife's breasts impact his ability to ride a bike.

Secondly, its only dumb if you are too short sighted to look at the bigger picture.

On the night, if Reed is one of the fastest guys and qualifies thats fine, but what would the people behind him do given the opportunities, equipment, support and sponsorship given to Reed who seemingly doesn't care enough to finish the race?

His fans might be happy he is there, he might get the longest autograph line in the pits but I feel like without him there someone else would get into the main, get the exposure and perhaps the confidence to build a better career for themselves.

lumpy790 wrote:

If you bother to read it Chads wife had major surgery Monday after being sick for a long time.

Yes Family does affect a riders performance.

uneasy_rider wrote:

Easily the dumbest fucking comment in this entire thread. If he is holding up anyone, all they have to do is out qualify them!

Beeby wrote:

Firstly, that you think this is "the dumbest comment in this entire thread" is pretty laughable. Especially when you consider there are people suggesting his wife's...

Firstly, that you think this is "the dumbest comment in this entire thread" is pretty laughable. Especially when you consider there are people suggesting his wife's breasts impact his ability to ride a bike.

Secondly, its only dumb if you are too short sighted to look at the bigger picture.

On the night, if Reed is one of the fastest guys and qualifies thats fine, but what would the people behind him do given the opportunities, equipment, support and sponsorship given to Reed who seemingly doesn't care enough to finish the race?

His fans might be happy he is there, he might get the longest autograph line in the pits but I feel like without him there someone else would get into the main, get the exposure and perhaps the confidence to build a better career for themselves.

lumpy790 wrote:

If you bother to read it Chads wife had major surgery Monday after being sick for a long time.

Yes Family does affect a riders performance.

Beeby wrote:

All I see is a man long overdue retiring taking someone else’s spot in the main that might have a future career given the chance. When...

All I see is a man long overdue retiring taking someone else’s spot in the main that might have a future career given the chance.

When was the last time Chad really turned up to a season ready

uneasy_rider wrote:

Easily the dumbest fucking comment in this entire thread. If he is holding up anyone, all they have to do is out qualify them!

Beeby wrote:

Firstly, that you think this is "the dumbest comment in this entire thread" is pretty laughable. Especially when you consider there are people suggesting his wife's...

Firstly, that you think this is "the dumbest comment in this entire thread" is pretty laughable. Especially when you consider there are people suggesting his wife's breasts impact his ability to ride a bike.

Secondly, its only dumb if you are too short sighted to look at the bigger picture.

On the night, if Reed is one of the fastest guys and qualifies thats fine, but what would the people behind him do given the opportunities, equipment, support and sponsorship given to Reed who seemingly doesn't care enough to finish the race?

His fans might be happy he is there, he might get the longest autograph line in the pits but I feel like without him there someone else would get into the main, get the exposure and perhaps the confidence to build a better career for themselves.

CPR wrote:

"but what would the people behind him do given the opportunities, equipment, support and sponsorship given to Reed..." Oh you mean the opportunities, equipment, support and...

"but what would the people behind him do given the opportunities, equipment, support and sponsorship given to Reed..."
Oh you mean the opportunities, equipment, support and sponsorship he's gone out and got himself and is probably paying for some as well?
Oh and 'dumb' means the inability to speak, pity it doesn't influence your ability to type....or maybe even think coherently it seems.

Beeby wrote:

Why does it matter if he got it himself or got it from the tooth fairy? The man is still entering events under prepared and not...

Why does it matter if he got it himself or got it from the tooth fairy? The man is still entering events under prepared and not even completing them. My point remains, I’d like to see what someone else would do given the same opportunity Chad has (and no, not everyone he beat to the final have the same opportunity he had).

Honestly, You can always tell people lack depth of conversation when their answer is to start being offensive toward people on here and telling them to shut up. You disagree with my viewpoint, it’s not cause to start being rude, I’m entitled to have it.

Beeby wrote:

Why does it matter if he got it himself or got it from the tooth fairy? The man is still entering events under prepared and not...

Why does it matter if he got it himself or got it from the tooth fairy? The man is still entering events under prepared and not even completing them. My point remains, I’d like to see what someone else would do given the same opportunity Chad has (and no, not everyone he beat to the final have the same opportunity he had).

Honestly, You can always tell people lack depth of conversation when their answer is to start being offensive toward people on here and telling them to shut up. You disagree with my viewpoint, it’s not cause to start being rude, I’m entitled to have it.

Crush wrote:

Assume you’re also pretty upset with Decotis rolling around at comparative trail riding speed after 10 laps?

Beeby wrote:

Why does it matter if he got it himself or got it from the tooth fairy? The man is still entering events under prepared and not...

Why does it matter if he got it himself or got it from the tooth fairy? The man is still entering events under prepared and not even completing them. My point remains, I’d like to see what someone else would do given the same opportunity Chad has (and no, not everyone he beat to the final have the same opportunity he had).

Honestly, You can always tell people lack depth of conversation when their answer is to start being offensive toward people on here and telling them to shut up. You disagree with my viewpoint, it’s not cause to start being rude, I’m entitled to have it.

Crush wrote:

Assume you’re also pretty upset with Decotis rolling around at comparative trail riding speed after 10 laps?

Beeby wrote:

Why does it matter if he got it himself or got it from the tooth fairy? The man is still entering events under prepared and not...

Why does it matter if he got it himself or got it from the tooth fairy? The man is still entering events under prepared and not even completing them. My point remains, I’d like to see what someone else would do given the same opportunity Chad has (and no, not everyone he beat to the final have the same opportunity he had).

Honestly, You can always tell people lack depth of conversation when their answer is to start being offensive toward people on here and telling them to shut up. You disagree with my viewpoint, it’s not cause to start being rude, I’m entitled to have it.

Crush wrote:

Assume you’re also pretty upset with Decotis rolling around at comparative trail riding speed after 10 laps?

Beeby wrote:

Anyone that doesn't put the effort in. This is a thread about Reed though.

Crush wrote:

Assume you’re also pretty upset with Decotis rolling around at comparative trail riding speed after 10 laps?

Beeby wrote:

Anyone that doesn't put the effort in. This is a thread about Reed though.

brocster wrote:

Do you realize you are talking in circles? If you want a guy to beat Chad out of the spot they have to put in the...

Do you realize you are talking in circles?
If you want a guy to beat Chad out of the spot they have to put in the effort. All consuming, I might add.
Chad was not given anything to be where he is, he earned it just like your guy needs to do if he wants a chance. Don’t wait for opportunity, make opportunity.

Just curious, who would you put in his place that given the opportunity could turn it into something more than not qualifying as they are now?

Momus wrote:

What about sad sack riders who retire way to early and deny their supporters. They're worse.

Beeby wrote:

I don't see any circles. Chad has sponsorship, a bike and setup way beyond what his results justify. You are all getting butt hurt because someone...

I don't see any circles.

Chad has sponsorship, a bike and setup way beyond what his results justify. You are all getting butt hurt because someone was critical of Chad, but the logic sets firm. It is the same as people that pay for a seat in F1, they get the opportunity over many people more capable than they are. Chad has it because he has his past (which he earned, I am just saying (consistently (not circles)) that it would be nice to see some other up and coming riders get their best ever result by making the main and see if anyone makes something of it.

You cannot compare a privateer rider probably working in the week and possibly driving themselves and their stuff across the country to Chad Reed who has spent days off racing Lambos.

No one is saying Chad hasn't been a good rider and no one is saying he is not capable of putting in good results but he keeps coming into seasons not bike fit.

Beeby wrote:

Anyone that doesn't put the effort in. This is a thread about Reed though.

brocster wrote:

Do you realize you are talking in circles? If you want a guy to beat Chad out of the spot they have to put in the...

Do you realize you are talking in circles?
If you want a guy to beat Chad out of the spot they have to put in the effort. All consuming, I might add.
Chad was not given anything to be where he is, he earned it just like your guy needs to do if he wants a chance. Don’t wait for opportunity, make opportunity.

Just curious, who would you put in his place that given the opportunity could turn it into something more than not qualifying as they are now?

Beeby wrote:

I don't see any circles. Chad has sponsorship, a bike and setup way beyond what his results justify. You are all getting butt hurt because someone...

I don't see any circles.

Chad has sponsorship, a bike and setup way beyond what his results justify. You are all getting butt hurt because someone was critical of Chad, but the logic sets firm. It is the same as people that pay for a seat in F1, they get the opportunity over many people more capable than they are. Chad has it because he has his past (which he earned, I am just saying (consistently (not circles)) that it would be nice to see some other up and coming riders get their best ever result by making the main and see if anyone makes something of it.

You cannot compare a privateer rider probably working in the week and possibly driving themselves and their stuff across the country to Chad Reed who has spent days off racing Lambos.

No one is saying Chad hasn't been a good rider and no one is saying he is not capable of putting in good results but he keeps coming into seasons not bike fit.

Beeby wrote:

I don't see any circles. Chad has sponsorship, a bike and setup way beyond what his results justify. You are all getting butt hurt because someone...

I don't see any circles.

Chad has sponsorship, a bike and setup way beyond what his results justify. You are all getting butt hurt because someone was critical of Chad, but the logic sets firm. It is the same as people that pay for a seat in F1, they get the opportunity over many people more capable than they are. Chad has it because he has his past (which he earned, I am just saying (consistently (not circles)) that it would be nice to see some other up and coming riders get their best ever result by making the main and see if anyone makes something of it.

You cannot compare a privateer rider probably working in the week and possibly driving themselves and their stuff across the country to Chad Reed who has spent days off racing Lambos.

No one is saying Chad hasn't been a good rider and no one is saying he is not capable of putting in good results but he keeps coming into seasons not bike fit.

harescrambled wrote:

Until you're paying the bill for someone to race, who are any of us to say "what their results justify"? Unless one of us here can...

Until you're paying the bill for someone to race, who are any of us to say "what their results justify"? Unless one of us here can show up and out qualify the man, we shouldn't be passing judgement on whether he should be out there or not.

Just my $.02

brocster wrote:

Do you realize you are talking in circles? If you want a guy to beat Chad out of the spot they have to put in the...

Do you realize you are talking in circles?
If you want a guy to beat Chad out of the spot they have to put in the effort. All consuming, I might add.
Chad was not given anything to be where he is, he earned it just like your guy needs to do if he wants a chance. Don’t wait for opportunity, make opportunity.

Just curious, who would you put in his place that given the opportunity could turn it into something more than not qualifying as they are now?

Beeby wrote:

I don't see any circles. Chad has sponsorship, a bike and setup way beyond what his results justify. You are all getting butt hurt because someone...

I don't see any circles.

Chad has sponsorship, a bike and setup way beyond what his results justify. You are all getting butt hurt because someone was critical of Chad, but the logic sets firm. It is the same as people that pay for a seat in F1, they get the opportunity over many people more capable than they are. Chad has it because he has his past (which he earned, I am just saying (consistently (not circles)) that it would be nice to see some other up and coming riders get their best ever result by making the main and see if anyone makes something of it.

You cannot compare a privateer rider probably working in the week and possibly driving themselves and their stuff across the country to Chad Reed who has spent days off racing Lambos.

No one is saying Chad hasn't been a good rider and no one is saying he is not capable of putting in good results but he keeps coming into seasons not bike fit.

Momus wrote:

Chad is self funded this season. Not a factory or major private team rider at all; a privateer in his valedictory season. A lot of internet...

Chad is self funded this season. Not a factory or major private team rider at all; a privateer in his valedictory season.

A lot of internet ink has been expended on how he has bought a transporter, bikes and pays his blokes out of his own pocket.

He has been racing at the highest levels internationally for over 20 years .

You don't get that he is making the SX mains purely on ability?

I don't think you understand how professional SX works.

Beeby wrote:

I don't see any circles. Chad has sponsorship, a bike and setup way beyond what his results justify. You are all getting butt hurt because someone...

I don't see any circles.

Chad has sponsorship, a bike and setup way beyond what his results justify. You are all getting butt hurt because someone was critical of Chad, but the logic sets firm. It is the same as people that pay for a seat in F1, they get the opportunity over many people more capable than they are. Chad has it because he has his past (which he earned, I am just saying (consistently (not circles)) that it would be nice to see some other up and coming riders get their best ever result by making the main and see if anyone makes something of it.

You cannot compare a privateer rider probably working in the week and possibly driving themselves and their stuff across the country to Chad Reed who has spent days off racing Lambos.

No one is saying Chad hasn't been a good rider and no one is saying he is not capable of putting in good results but he keeps coming into seasons not bike fit.

harescrambled wrote:

Until you're paying the bill for someone to race, who are any of us to say "what their results justify"? Unless one of us here can...

Until you're paying the bill for someone to race, who are any of us to say "what their results justify"? Unless one of us here can show up and out qualify the man, we shouldn't be passing judgement on whether he should be out there or not.

Just my $.02

Beeby wrote:

So this spectator sport is to be a judgement free zone expect all those who can qualify for a main? Or perhaps people who sponsor it...

So this spectator sport is to be a judgement free zone expect all those who can qualify for a main? Or perhaps people who sponsor it. Good logic sir.

I assume same applies to football? Baseball, Soccer?

Only the elite may have an opinion.