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Was it:
A.105 (legal)
B.112 (illegal but soon will be legal)
C.118 (illegal)
D.124(illegal)
Here's your 50/50 lifeline, it was NOT A and/or D.
Are all auusies to stupid to build a crank? How the hell are they gonna jet a bike that is gonna run on another continent?
Extra special zuki pistons,lol,they make them out of foster cans there,?
I'd kept that story stored in that sun baked head ,mate
2cc,5%, bullshit. Milling the head to raise compression will gain more power than 2cc.
So who made the piston? He design his own and cut it from billet?
Hell,cleaning up ports,matching cases to cylinder would make more hp.
Can they run oxidized fuel? That would make it "pull"
I would want my kid to beat little deegan on a stocker,,and teach him to draw on the thought that he may be cheating and then rub it in that we won on a clapped 50 against trick.
Gonna check the math now
The Shop
If YOUR KID was out there, racing a bike that YOU KNOW is Legal and is getting SHREDDED down the start by a bike that's NOTORIOUSLY SLOW compared to what your kid is riding (Cobras are THE bike in the 50cc classes) ...you WOULDN'T have a PROBLEM WITH THAT? I would; and, I'd file a Protest, myself.
Btw, I get the feeling some of you don't realize how Different (Read: LONG) the Start is for a 50...it's a WFO Drag-Race for a really long-time compared to all the other bikes...and it provides for one helluva LEAD there-after.
While we're here, WTF do you think "RULES" are for? ESPECIALLY for the LL's and Stock versus Mod classes...hmmmm?
So, here's the thing: SOMEONE CHEATED and GOT CAUGHT. He should've owned it and NOT talked a ton of shit or made it PERSONAL. You know WHY the Social-Media stuff ain't there, anymore? 'Cause they KNOW THEY'RE WRONG. PERIOD. Brian is UBBER-COMPETITIVE and he pushed it Too Damn Far & GOT CAUGHT...I hope he changes his game and moves on. His kid needs to win ON HIS OWN MERITS. That's what I'm hoping for. Besides, he's a Deegan. He's gonna win stuff by slugging it out.
Wow, still can't get over the idea that some of us support Cheating and then SHIT-TALK about those that simply want a FAIR-RACE based on the damn Rule-Book. For those of you that don't understand a 5% Increase in Displacement on a small-bore? I'm still laughing at you: The Proof is in this thread.
Unbelievable.
I doubt the protesters bike was jetted on the limit,all the bearings greased to get the least drag,
Most parents pressure wash the hell out of them,load in trailer till next race.
What if the bike beating you is running oxy fuel? Geared correctly.
Lots of reasons a bike pulls hard other than one mil of bore.
The kid is 20 lbs lighter?
I've never complained about some guys bike being better,.
No way i protest for anythig,it is a pussy way to win,pussy.
He sent his engine half way around the world because PC has a reputation of being one if the best...who cares who builds his engine, an Aussie is helping our economy by supporting an American company and you make fun of him.
You say that there are plenty of other ways to create more power than adding 2cc, did it ever cross your inbred brain that the engine is probably blueprinted, ported, balanced etc. to a factory race bike standard....I'm sure there is a pretty fat wallet funding his effort.
Upon saying that, he cheated and got caught, happens all the time and he should not be a douche to the person who called him out. When you win people will always say you are cheating.
I have been torn down a few times at races. It's a pain in the ass, and I don't like other people working on my bikes. But rules are rules and I never cheated, I had a 262 Kawi 4 stroke and a 144 Kawi two stroke which is within the rules.
On a KTM 50 that would only be 54cc.
-Doublin gap in PA
-Englishtown at the kawasaki race of champions. They let me tear it down there.
These are going back to 2003-2006? or so.
Lots of reasons a bike pulls hard other than one mil of bore.
The kid is 20 lbs lighter?
I've never complained about some guys bike being better,.
No way i protest for anythig,it is a pussy way to win,pussy.
What if any of those things happened? Well, that would mean they weren't cheating.
There ARE lots of reasons a bike could beat you , one of those reasons is running an over bored bike.
Protesting a bike may be a "pussy way to win"- but cheating is worse.
Pit Row
8. DO NOT CHEAT- It never ceases to amaze me that some parents think winning a race for 4-6 year olds is important enough for them to cheat. We have seen and protested kids with 60cc pistons running in the 50cc shaft class. Parents who succumb to the pressure to run illegal bikes are doing a disservice to their kids. I wonder how they explain it to their child when they get caught? Well Johnny, I didn’t think you were as good as the other kids so I made your bike faster so you could win? I also do not buy the excuse that you have to cheat because everyone else does. If you think someone is cheating, and you need to be pretty sure you are right, file a protest. That’s why the protest procedure is in the rulebook. If you happen to
be wrong, apologize and hope the protested party takes it as a compliment.
running a big bore is a pussy way to win,, and I could not show my face at the prize giving if I did that,
Doug Cochran (the parent that protested) is one of the best guys in the pits at any race you go to. Keep in mind his son has not only beaten Deegan's son at Loretta's, but a couple other times by a good gap. I have dealt with Doug a few times in the past and he has been nothing but 100% genuine and supportive for a couple years. Great guy, period.
Speed for speed, Deegan's kid isn't as consistently fast... to throw a cheater motor in the KTM after the way he split with Cobra shows his true intentions. The bike isn't the problem.. ask Matt LeBlanc how fast the KTM was last year. Its the kid that isn't as fast (yet), and the dad puts him on an illegal bike to try to win. Sad, and stupid, truth about the 50 class on a national level.
And those that think this hasn't been going on for years is hilarious.
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