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You admitted yourself nobody has any data on how many bikes any rider sells so why the fuck is it so important how many Deegan sells?
Do you any of you buy a bike because a pro rider rides that bike?
Cause that just seems stupid and I would wager most of us don’t buy a Honda cause KR or a Kawi cause AC etc…
Star isn’t hiring deegan cause he’ll sell bikes for Yamaha. That’s probably .05% of the equation
The Shop
Good on him. A dream for any young kid to land a factory deal!
I wish him an injury free successful career.
Haiden Deegan is exceptionally fast and talented, but he is not CURRENTLY even close to the speed of the most of the current regular guys in the class, based on his training times he would not even sniff the top 25 right now (yes, I realize he is only 15). Maybe it was the shitty underpowered KTM he was riding to blame, who knows.
Austin Black, Derek Kelley, Ty Masterpool, or Preston Kilroy would simply level him in a national race if it were held today. Those guys don't get mentioned here at all, and Ty got the short end on his Star Yamaha tryout.
YES he has potential (so do the racers I listed)
YES he has multiple Loretta's titles ( so did Mike Alessi)
YES he is only 15 and has a steep learning curve ahead of him. He could be the next Villopoto, I dont know. BUT I dont know of any rider who got so much from showing so little on the track.
Downvote me all you want, but from my view Yamaha could be buying a social media darling as opposed to a top performer, I hope I'm wrong.
I sure hope he makes me eat my words, because he is a really nice kid.
Judging Deegan’s current speed isn’t quite a reasonable comparison given that it sounds like he will be spending the next 2 seasons in amateurs before going pro.
Did you mean 6 months instead of six weeks?
Move up for mini o’s. They let you finish the year in the class. With that said I would be shocked if he didn’t move up for MO.
I'm not saying he's the second coming, or that he's a shoe-in for every championship he contends, but to pretend he got this ride (or the KTM ride, for that matter) just because of his name and social media presence, and not because of his talent and work ethic is insulting to him, and to Star.
Sure, in Deegan's case, KTM got marketing value out of it, but that's not the norm either, no other kids have his marketing ROI pull, and it's crazy to suggest KTM wouldn't have at least wanted to see it turn into something more at the Pro level...
If you want to point to Deegan right now and say it makes sense for this level of investment to continue as the model for amateurs, it's not hard to point out the other side being the countless others who didn't work... just look at the historical Horizon award list, how many of those didn't work out... and then think that each year there would be another 2–4 kids on other brands who had similar investment... and yet the titles are won by a select few, and often those we didn't see coming or who didn't have that investment.
Pit Row
You told him to stop digging because you need his shovel, right?
He’s not a professional rider. You realize he is an AMATEUR right? So comparing an amateur to a pro makes no sense even if you’re basing it strictly off bike size or age. He’s also not going pro tomorrow, the next day, or even the next few years! It would make more sense to compare him to other 15 year old amateurs. And lap times mean nothing, you should know that. Everyone is always only a few seconds off on practice.
It sort of smells like you have something against the Kid and if you don’t then your comparisons are pretty apples to oranges.
Oh and don’t worry they’ll race Ryder D when it’s time. They’ll get there
It Will be interesting to see if Evan ferry’s year on a 125 becomes beneficial this year ,
Interesting times coming in the next few years , see Deegan and ferry came up later recently as the big names of amateurs , where Ryder d and jett reynolds have been on the pro circuit kawi path does a while fron Titles on 65s
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