Dear Glen Helen...

I’d go to that. Better than sitting in one lane traffic for several hours trying to get into Pala, then being told there’s no more parking and you have to turn around and drive home. That’s what happened to me when Pala held the national.

What a great idea.

Kudos GuyB for speaking out. But really would you expect anything else from the sour grapes bunch?!?!?

Well you did just advertise their event.

Actually, in my opinion, they are not being petty, they are doing the So Cal moto fans a solid. You couldn’t pay me to go to Pala to watch a national.

ATKpilot99 wrote:

Well you did just advertise their event.

It would be hard to explain if I didn’t.

I’m a fan of the charity component, but the date? I can’t get behind that.

Sunday would have been an AMAZING day to hold it. Even open the place up to camping for the weekend and let people go to the race and come back and rip in the morning.

ATKpilot99 wrote:

Well you did just advertise their event.

GuyB wrote:

It would be hard to explain if I didn’t.

I’m a fan of the charity component, but the date? I can’t get behind that.

Yeah I can see where you're coming from on that. With the history they have the timing does seem strange. Could have done it the day of a different national.

How about just be cooperative with the reasonable requests made my MXSports, so that moto can continue to witness one of the most iconic nationals in history.

Looks like a big middle finger to me!

Glad it's for charity, but it does seem a little cynical

Crush wrote:

How about just be cooperative with the reasonable requests made my MXSports, so that moto can continue to witness one of the most iconic nationals in history.

Make no mistake about it, this was a charity veiled FU to Mx Sports for not playing mouse.

Might actually attend this. Sure as hell not attending Pala...

Get some practice in, eat food, and watch the race in the barn... Tough to beat that.

If they are using a fundraiser to be petty towards mx sports then that’s sad.

Free Practice now costs $10 ?

Crush wrote:

How about just be cooperative with the reasonable requests made my MXSports, so that moto can continue to witness one of the most iconic nationals in history.

Define “reasonable requests”

You California blokes are so spoiled. Wah, traffic is going to be bad. I'm not going to the Pala National. Aren't you embarrassed?

Bruce372 wrote:

Looks like a big middle finger to me!

Glad it's for charity, but it does seem a little cynical

Im thinking Tom White would lobby for unity over division.

avidchimp wrote:

Sunday would have been an AMAZING day to hold it. Even open the place up to camping for the weekend and let people go to the race and come back and rip in the morning.

This.

Sunday would have been perfect.

What's so bad about it? They are going to show the race, so I would say they are supporting it? As long as all proceeds go to charity and they don't skim some off the top... Nationals are cool but I would take the option of riding over watching a national.

I disagree with you here, GuyB. I think it sounds cool. And it’s not like they are boycotting the race, they’re showing it in the museum.

I can’t get mad at a track for giving back to the moto community.

aeffertz wrote:

You California blokes are so spoiled. Wah, traffic is going to be bad. I'm not going to the Pala National. Aren't you embarrassed?

Yup

As Dr. Evil would say...

Maybe I'm in the minority here ( as I didn't read any replies ).......but if I lived down there , I'd be there in a heart beat! Screw the live national , when I can get home after riding all day , I can watch it later that evening. I do that all summer long anyways. The only way I'm missing a ride day is if I'm over worked ( which I am right now ) or if the weather sucks ( which it does right now ) .

I know there is some animosity between GH and MXsports.......but seriously , who gives a shit? Go ride your brains out on an awesome track all day , then watch the motos when you get home. Who the hell " doesn't " do that?

Btw.....I posted that response knowing damn well Pala national has shit traffic. So I'd go ride my bike.

jeffro503 wrote:

Maybe I'm in the minority here ( as I didn't read any replies ).......but if I lived down there , I'd be there in a heart beat! Screw the live national , when I can get home after riding all day , I can watch it later that evening. I do that all summer long anyways. The only way I'm missing a ride day is if I'm over worked ( which I am right now ) or if the weather sucks ( which it does right now ) .

I know there is some animosity between GH and MXsports.......but seriously , who gives a shit? Go ride your brains out on an awesome track all day , then watch the motos when you get home. Who the hell " doesn't " do that?

The point being they could have raised MORE money for the charity had they not had an issue with Pala/Fox hosting the national.

GH could have had a Friday through Sunday event that went hand in hand with the national. Open the gates on Friday to let people set-up and have fun, have an open practice Saturday for whomever wants to stay and ride/watch the national in the museum, and when everyone comes back from the race have a kickass BBQ/party/Sunday event all in Tom White's name.

jeffro503 wrote:

Maybe I'm in the minority here ( as I didn't read any replies ).......but if I lived down there , I'd be there in a heart beat! Screw the live national , when I can get home after riding all day , I can watch it later that evening. I do that all summer long anyways. The only way I'm missing a ride day is if I'm over worked ( which I am right now ) or if the weather sucks ( which it does right now ) .

I know there is some animosity between GH and MXsports.......but seriously , who gives a shit? Go ride your brains out on an awesome track all day , then watch the motos when you get home. Who the hell " doesn't " do that?

avidchimp wrote:

The point being they could have raised MORE money for the charity had they not had an issue with Pala/Fox hosting the national.

GH could have had a Friday through Sunday event that went hand in hand with the national. Open the gates on Friday to let people set-up and have fun, have an open practice Saturday for whomever wants to stay and ride/watch the national in the museum, and when everyone comes back from the race have a kickass BBQ/party/Sunday event all in Tom White's name.

I see your point and understood.

jeffro503 wrote:

Maybe I'm in the minority here ( as I didn't read any replies ).......but if I lived down there , I'd be there in a heart beat! Screw the live national , when I can get home after riding all day , I can watch it later that evening. I do that all summer long anyways. The only way I'm missing a ride day is if I'm over worked ( which I am right now ) or if the weather sucks ( which it does right now ) .

I know there is some animosity between GH and MXsports.......but seriously , who gives a shit? Go ride your brains out on an awesome track all day , then watch the motos when you get home. Who the hell " doesn't " do that?

Sounds good to me.

I think that there may be a little bit of animosity over the free practice because a certain media competitor has always been involved with their National, too. I think that people now have a decent choice of activities to attend. Enthusiasts can attend a free practice with lunch, spectators can attend a probably great National, and those that are in both categories can choose one or the other and have a great day!

jeffro503 wrote:

Maybe I'm in the minority here ( as I didn't read any replies ).......but if I lived down there , I'd be there in a heart beat! Screw the live national , when I can get home after riding all day , I can watch it later that evening. I do that all summer long anyways. The only way I'm missing a ride day is if I'm over worked ( which I am right now ) or if the weather sucks ( which it does right now ) .

I know there is some animosity between GH and MXsports.......but seriously , who gives a shit? Go ride your brains out on an awesome track all day , then watch the motos when you get home. Who the hell " doesn't " do that?

APLMAN99 wrote:

Sounds good to me.

I think that there may be a little bit of animosity over the free practice because a certain media competitor has always been involved with their National, too. I think that people now have a decent choice of activities to attend. Enthusiasts can attend a free practice with lunch, spectators can attend a probably great National, and those that are in both categories can choose one or the other and have a great day!

This....it's not like GH scheduled a competing race...I'd way rather ride, take a break occasionally and watch some Pala National motos, ride some more, repeat.

As far as that certain media competitor, it's only been recently that I've seen them cover anything WORCS-related (i.e. in their Monday Wake Up Call or whatever), which(along w/Big 6) is essentially the West-coast version of GNCC (owned and operated by the same folks as that mag). For a long time it seemed almost like verboten to speak about - reminded me of "Monster Energy SX" and the lengths they go to in order to never, ever mention the Outdoor MX Nats.

It's zero sum thinking at its finest...