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Edited Date/Time 3/26/2019 6:41am
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Crush 3/24/2019 10:53pm
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Looks like Savatgy likely passed Deano under the flag too.
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fullfloater 3/25/2019 1:37am
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Roczen was hauling on that first lap.

If they wouldn't have built those last few whoops bigger than the rest, the skimmers wouldn't have slowed to a snail's pace at the end. I so wanted to see Roczen, Wilson, Tomac blow by the jumpers but they couldn't get through those last few with speed consistently. Man that was frustrating to watch.

Thanks for the post!
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Bnagazina 3/25/2019 2:12am
3/25/2019 2:12am
Looks like Webb was basing and jumping through the Red Cross section.
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fullfloater 3/25/2019 2:25am
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Bnagazina wrote:
Looks like Webb was basing and jumping through the Red Cross section.
Yeah at about 1:38, Osborne rolls the whole thing while Savatgy doubles the last few and passes him. Webb only singled 3 jumps. Made a bunch of time and looks to pass Osborne in the next corner. Tough to know what to do as a rider or official.
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Crush 3/25/2019 2:32am
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fullfloater wrote:
Roczen was hauling on that first lap. If they wouldn't have built those last few whoops bigger than the rest, the skimmers wouldn't have slowed to...
Roczen was hauling on that first lap.

If they wouldn't have built those last few whoops bigger than the rest, the skimmers wouldn't have slowed to a snail's pace at the end. I so wanted to see Roczen, Wilson, Tomac blow by the jumpers but they couldn't get through those last few with speed consistently. Man that was frustrating to watch.

Thanks for the post!
Was just thinking today watching it that if they made the last whoop like the first then we'd have seen a shit load of passes.
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slumpstone 3/25/2019 5:29am
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Bnagazina wrote:
Looks like Webb was basing and jumping through the Red Cross section.
fullfloater wrote:
Yeah at about 1:38, Osborne rolls the whole thing while Savatgy doubles the last few and passes him. Webb only singled 3 jumps. Made a bunch...
Yeah at about 1:38, Osborne rolls the whole thing while Savatgy doubles the last few and passes him. Webb only singled 3 jumps. Made a bunch of time and looks to pass Osborne in the next corner. Tough to know what to do as a rider or official.
I think you guys need to READ THE RULE and understand it before you make judgement.
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fullfloater 3/25/2019 6:13am
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slumpstone wrote:
I think you guys need to READ THE RULE and understand it before you make judgement.
I meant that the riders themselves were doing different things.
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They make it look so easy.
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Johnny Depp 3/25/2019 6:51am
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Bnagazina wrote:
Looks like Webb was basing and jumping through the Red Cross section.
fullfloater wrote:
Yeah at about 1:38, Osborne rolls the whole thing while Savatgy doubles the last few and passes him. Webb only singled 3 jumps. Made a bunch...
Yeah at about 1:38, Osborne rolls the whole thing while Savatgy doubles the last few and passes him. Webb only singled 3 jumps. Made a bunch of time and looks to pass Osborne in the next corner. Tough to know what to do as a rider or official.
slumpstone wrote:
I think you guys need to READ THE RULE and understand it before you make judgement.
Perhaps you should explain your viewpoint? I TYPED the rule in this thread:

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/There-was-a-Kawasaki-jum…

Edit, The video CLEARLY shows Webb clearing a double at 1;42 with Brayton being attended to on the side of the track, and a tuff block still in the track for protection. He is NOT clear of the incident.
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Crush 3/25/2019 6:56am
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Bnagazina wrote:
Looks like Webb was basing and jumping through the Red Cross section.
fullfloater wrote:
Yeah at about 1:38, Osborne rolls the whole thing while Savatgy doubles the last few and passes him. Webb only singled 3 jumps. Made a bunch...
Yeah at about 1:38, Osborne rolls the whole thing while Savatgy doubles the last few and passes him. Webb only singled 3 jumps. Made a bunch of time and looks to pass Osborne in the next corner. Tough to know what to do as a rider or official.
slumpstone wrote:
I think you guys need to READ THE RULE and understand it before you make judgement.
Full disclosure I haven't read it but I believe it's you gotta clear the section right? Well Savatgy passes him before Deano is out of the section. Webb at least gives him the courtesy of being pretty cunty immediately after.
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Johnny Depp 3/25/2019 7:20am
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6. Riders must exercise extreme caution and not race or accelerate in an unsafe manner until they are clear of the incident.

This would mean anyone launching from the jump face where the accident is. It appears several did get away with it, and Marvin got singled out. Equal punishment under the rules is due here.
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Hammer 663s 3/25/2019 7:24am
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AMA should be handing out some penalties based on this video alone. Can't play favourites with anyone. Savatgy for sure should be docked points. IMHO worse than the infraction in the 250 LCQ.

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Gandorlf 3/25/2019 7:28am
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Can clearly see Webb rolling the first couple then jumping the rest. But like Weege said, when it's your year... It's just your year
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Johnny Depp 3/25/2019 7:33am
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The video CLEARLY shows Webb clearing a double with the Red Cross flag waving at 1:42 with Brayton being attended to on the side of the track, and a tuff block still in the track for protection. He is NOT clear of the incident. Savatgy and Anderson did the same. Lap 3.
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team_player 3/25/2019 7:58am
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fullfloater wrote:
Roczen was hauling on that first lap. If they wouldn't have built those last few whoops bigger than the rest, the skimmers wouldn't have slowed to...
Roczen was hauling on that first lap.

If they wouldn't have built those last few whoops bigger than the rest, the skimmers wouldn't have slowed to a snail's pace at the end. I so wanted to see Roczen, Wilson, Tomac blow by the jumpers but they couldn't get through those last few with speed consistently. Man that was frustrating to watch.

Thanks for the post!
Crush wrote:
Was just thinking today watching it that if they made the last whoop like the first then we'd have seen a shit load of passes.
Why do you think that? If they had made the whoops easier then more people would skim them.
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Crush 3/25/2019 8:00am
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fullfloater wrote:
Roczen was hauling on that first lap. If they wouldn't have built those last few whoops bigger than the rest, the skimmers wouldn't have slowed to...
Roczen was hauling on that first lap.

If they wouldn't have built those last few whoops bigger than the rest, the skimmers wouldn't have slowed to a snail's pace at the end. I so wanted to see Roczen, Wilson, Tomac blow by the jumpers but they couldn't get through those last few with speed consistently. Man that was frustrating to watch.

Thanks for the post!
Crush wrote:
Was just thinking today watching it that if they made the last whoop like the first then we'd have seen a shit load of passes.
team_player wrote:
Why do you think that? If they had made the whoops easier then more people would skim them.
That last whoop shot you up a bit. Quite a few times Deano would have had a pass just eeeked out if it didn’t pop you up.
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team_player 3/25/2019 8:08am
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Crush wrote:
Was just thinking today watching it that if they made the last whoop like the first then we'd have seen a shit load of passes.
team_player wrote:
Why do you think that? If they had made the whoops easier then more people would skim them.
Crush wrote:
That last whoop shot you up a bit. Quite a few times Deano would have had a pass just eeeked out if it didn’t pop you...
That last whoop shot you up a bit. Quite a few times Deano would have had a pass just eeeked out if it didn’t pop you up.
And if the last whoop didn't shoot you up then more riders would have skimmed them.
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Looks to me like the red cross flag was pretty obvious Whistling
You should know that red flags are mainly for when the medics can't work and evacuate the rider safely. In this case, if Brayton would have been on the other side of the track, then maybe a red flag would have probably been put. Here there was absolutely no reason to put one.
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Johnny Depp 3/25/2019 8:48am
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devindavisphoto wrote:
Looks to me like the red cross flag was pretty obvious Whistling
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You should know that red flags are mainly for when the medics can't work and evacuate the rider safely. In this case, if Brayton would have...
You should know that red flags are mainly for when the medics can't work and evacuate the rider safely. In this case, if Brayton would have been on the other side of the track, then maybe a red flag would have probably been put. Here there was absolutely no reason to put one.
That may be true on lap 3, not lap 2. That doesn't change the fact that they displayed the Red Cross on lap 3.
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Question 3/25/2019 8:53am
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After rewatching a few times the video, in my opinion it is "ok", it looks like at the limits of the rules, but still "ok". Savatgy clears a double after the incident, and Webb passes him inside in the corner. Not super clean from both, but still "ok".
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Johnny Depp 3/25/2019 9:42am
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Question wrote:
After rewatching a few times the video, in my opinion it is "ok", it looks like at the limits of the rules, but still "ok". Savatgy...
After rewatching a few times the video, in my opinion it is "ok", it looks like at the limits of the rules, but still "ok". Savatgy clears a double after the incident, and Webb passes him inside in the corner. Not super clean from both, but still "ok".
Perhaps on lap 2, look at lap 3.
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jeasley 3/25/2019 10:18am
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This seems like too simple of a solution, so I'm probably missing something, but why isn't there a green flag or something like that to let the riders know when they are "clear of the incident"? In this case, Wilson paid the price for being overly cautious. If there had been a way for him to know without a doubt when he could double again, I don't believe he would have gotten passed.
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devindavisphoto 3/25/2019 10:58am
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devindavisphoto wrote:
Looks to me like the red cross flag was pretty obvious Whistling
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You should know that red flags are mainly for when the medics can't work and evacuate the rider safely. In this case, if Brayton would have...
You should know that red flags are mainly for when the medics can't work and evacuate the rider safely. In this case, if Brayton would have been on the other side of the track, then maybe a red flag would have probably been put. Here there was absolutely no reason to put one.
I just meant it was clearly visible for Marvin to see it and take the necessary precautions to avoid a penalty.
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slumpstone 3/25/2019 11:58am
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Hammer 663s wrote:
AMA should be handing out some penalties based on this video alone. Can't play favourites with anyone. Savatgy for sure should be docked points. IMHO worse...
AMA should be handing out some penalties based on this video alone. Can't play favourites with anyone. Savatgy for sure should be docked points. IMHO worse than the infraction in the 250 LCQ.

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Well obviously he did nothing wrong or they would’ve penalized him.
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