Deals that just didn't happened in the end

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4/2/2020 1:11 PM

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Garden tool flaming KTM team in 2000.

A.M. Leonard with Terlecki and Oehlof were a one season satellite team that was supposed to switch to Suzuki in 2001 to be the official Suzuki 125cc team. They even told KTM to kick rocks. In October of 2000 Suzuki bailed during negotiations, left the team high and dry, and just like that another satellite team evaporated into nothingness.

I had a team poster from Millville with Oehlof's signature.
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4/2/2020 1:13 PM

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4/2/2020 3:19 PM

Mike Alessi becoming the The Hype. Sorry, had to do it.

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4/2/2020 3:23 PM

591MX wrote:

2001. Riding a freight train of momentum after earning a low triple-digit number in the hotly contested District 14 C-class, a ...more

This is my favorite.

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4/2/2020 4:01 PM

Reynard going to Honda instead of PC Kawi.

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4/2/2020 4:29 PM

Brad Lackey winning '82 500 championship and losing his ride?
Or Swink and whoever he could have gone to instead of Suzuki in the 250 class, which tanked his career.

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4/2/2020 5:32 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/2/2020 5:35 PM

hubbardmx50 wrote: Photo
UpTiTe wrote:

He should’ve taken that deal, no salary but heavy bonus on a good bike. Instead he went for the money on a junk bike and ...more

Johnny Ringo wrote:

Talk about a career full of weird decisions. Quite the enigma

His agent at that time didn't recommended the best things, "No Salary but heavy bonuses" that made the agent jitter. He went for the big bucks at the Kawi deal too, but ended up with nothing for CP. Same with Yamaha deal. He could sign with a crew he knew (old PC mechanic working their) at VMS but because MotoConcepts payed more his agent said: Sign at MotoConcepts its the same bike like the VMS you tested... But that was not the case.

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4/2/2020 6:14 PM

jemcee wrote:

There was this ride test in 2011.. As far as I know this is all it was
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Funny thing about that deal was, the only thing that kept it from happening was Chad didn’t want to wear TLD gear.

Starts and funds his own team instead, and basically pays for that exact same bike

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4/2/2020 6:19 PM

Kenny Lingus wrote:

Somebody may have mentioned it already but I'd say McGrath not signing with Honda very late to ride Suzuki was very ...more

UpTiTe wrote:

Here’s a little secret some might know.

The last part of the 08 outdoor season, James stopped riding a Kawasaki during the ...more

Johnny Ringo wrote:

How soon into 2012 did he start riding the Suzuki during the week? Had to be before Daytona

Looking back, that is so gnarly. ...more

He liked the Kawasaki, he just wanted a head start on testing the Yamaha.

2012 after he crashed at Houston, him and Big James had a blow out in the rig with Coy Gibbs and a week later he was signed and testing the Suzuki. They started talking to Suzuki a month before the deal was done because he hated that Yamaha.

O’mara made him test and race with Dungeys setup and he owned it for 5 motos before he crashed. Came back told everyone he wanted his own setup, Johnny quit and he went down hill. Johnny was the only one that would stand up to him and when he wouldn’t listen, he quit.

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4/2/2020 6:44 PM

UpTiTe wrote:

Here’s a little secret some might know.

The last part of the 08 outdoor season, James stopped riding a Kawasaki during the ...more

Johnny Ringo wrote:

How soon into 2012 did he start riding the Suzuki during the week? Had to be before Daytona

Looking back, that is so gnarly. ...more

UpTiTe wrote:

He liked the Kawasaki, he just wanted a head start on testing the Yamaha.

2012 after he crashed at Houston, him and Big ...more

He never looked more normal on a bike than those 5 motos either. Bike never did anything funky, just riding 2 seconds in front of Dungey. Was almost boring haha.

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Cheers, Crush
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4/2/2020 6:47 PM

jemcee wrote:

There was this ride test in 2011.. As far as I know this is all it was
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MelonFan123 wrote:

Funny thing about that deal was, the only thing that kept it from happening was Chad didn’t want to wear TLD gear.

Starts and ...more

Really? Strange..
Maybe he was in talks with Shift already and the whole 'custom gear' thing was more attractive.

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why am I reading this? ..... Oh christ, now I'm posting...... shiiiiiiiit!!

4/2/2020 9:51 PM

jemcee wrote:

There was this ride test in 2011.. As far as I know this is all it was
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MelonFan123 wrote:

Funny thing about that deal was, the only thing that kept it from happening was Chad didn’t want to wear TLD gear.

Starts and ...more

Good choice IMO. He’s been with the fox family since 2011 and has probably made a ton of money from them that’s helped him to keep racing for the last 9-10 years instead of doing the TLD deal and only racing a couple more years.

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4/2/2020 10:00 PM

mxjon454 wrote:

Good choice IMO. He’s been with the fox family since 2011 and has probably made a ton of money from them that’s helped him to ...more

Yeah money wise then and now it's hard to argue it probably worked out.

I'm sure Shift re-launching and being the face would have had a nice number attached, and from everything Ping has ever said about the early TLD days, the budgets were tight.

Since? I'd guess it's been the substantive part of Reedy's income.

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Cheers, Crush
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4/3/2020 2:20 AM

jemcee wrote:

There was this ride test in 2011.. As far as I know this is all it was
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MelonFan123 wrote:

Funny thing about that deal was, the only thing that kept it from happening was Chad didn’t want to wear TLD gear.

Starts and ...more

Yeah he mentioned that in Racer X's longform on the twotwo team. Wonder if he regrets it? Probably not.

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4/6/2020 4:41 AM

hubbardmx50 wrote:

Its a shame how short lived Townley’s US career was, amazing rider for sure and would have a 250 outdoor Championship on his ...more

There was a race in 2010 on the Honda in the US, where Townley hit a few bumps on full throttle, everything came off the bike apart from his right hand - still pinned wide open, for about 20 metres, and he saved it. Was a fan before that time, and definitely was after seeing that!

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4/12/2020 4:06 PM

captmoto wrote:

MXDN Competition Park 2002.

Does anyone know where it was actually supposed to be? Best info I could find was at a new unfinished track five miles away from the original Competition Park which had already closed.

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Don't ever let facts get in the way of a great story

4/12/2020 4:17 PM

captmoto wrote:

MXDN Competition Park 2002.

hubbardmx50 wrote:

Does anyone know where it was actually supposed to be? Best info I could find was at a new unfinished track five miles away ...more

It wasn’t unfinished. We rode there twice. It was down the street from the Indian Casino, basically in the sand wash. Track was a SHITHOLE and it would’ve been a complete failure.
There was a sand drags drag strip 1/4 mile down the street.

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4/12/2020 4:19 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/12/2020 4:28 PM

captmoto wrote:

MXDN Competition Park 2002.

hubbardmx50 wrote:

Does anyone know where it was actually supposed to be? Best info I could find was at a new unfinished track five miles away ...more

This is right behind Soboba Casino, google earth screen capture from 2006. Is this where it was supposed to be? Looks like there's a concrete start pad that was poured and never used.
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Don't ever let facts get in the way of a great story

4/12/2020 4:29 PM

captmoto wrote:

MXDN Competition Park 2002.

hubbardmx50 wrote:

Does anyone know where it was actually supposed to be? Best info I could find was at a new unfinished track five miles away ...more

langhammx wrote:

It wasn’t unfinished. We rode there twice. It was down the street from the Indian Casino, basically in the sand wash. Track ...more

I think the MXA article I read meant it was unfinished when the FIM or whoever came to inspect it. Was it completely flat like the other Comp Park?

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Don't ever let facts get in the way of a great story

4/12/2020 4:34 PM

hubbardmx50 wrote:

Does anyone know where it was actually supposed to be? Best info I could find was at a new unfinished track five miles away ...more

langhammx wrote:

It wasn’t unfinished. We rode there twice. It was down the street from the Indian Casino, basically in the sand wash. Track ...more

hubbardmx50 wrote:

I think the MXA article I read meant it was unfinished when the FIM or whoever came to inspect it. Was it completely flat like ...more

Yet is, it was basically in the sand wash. Terrible dirt !!

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4/12/2020 7:33 PM

Chad was talking on the last Pulp Show about when Stew almost signed with Two Two Motorsports.

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4/12/2020 9:05 PM

Jean Michele Bayle nearly came out of retirement in 2000 for a US comeback with Suzuki.

DeCoster courted him, and it could have happened, but Bayle crashed and had another head injury once he started training again.

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4/12/2020 9:11 PM

langhammx wrote:

It wasn’t unfinished. We rode there twice. It was down the street from the Indian Casino, basically in the sand wash. Track ...more

hubbardmx50 wrote:

I think the MXA article I read meant it was unfinished when the FIM or whoever came to inspect it. Was it completely flat like ...more

langhammx wrote:

Yet is, it was basically in the sand wash. Terrible dirt !!

Though stinky at times, the other dirt was much better when prepped. It could be greasy like Elsinore when they just got lazy on prep and just thew water on it in the morning though.

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4/12/2020 9:24 PM

hubbardmx50 wrote:

I think the MXA article I read meant it was unfinished when the FIM or whoever came to inspect it. Was it completely flat like ...more

langhammx wrote:

Yet is, it was basically in the sand wash. Terrible dirt !!

avidchimp wrote:

Though stinky at times, the other dirt was much better when prepped. It could be greasy like Elsinore when they just got lazy ...more

Oh yeah... when he would disc it deep and water the night before Golden State or GFI races, the ruts were “all time” !
The old track was one of my sons favorites, we raced there a lot !

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4/13/2020 11:22 AM

langhammx wrote:

Yet is, it was basically in the sand wash. Terrible dirt !!

avidchimp wrote:

Though stinky at times, the other dirt was much better when prepped. It could be greasy like Elsinore when they just got lazy ...more

langhammx wrote:

Oh yeah... when he would disc it deep and water the night before Golden State or GFI races, the ruts were “all time” !
The ...more

Crappy dirt or not it's always a bummer to see a track close down. It's too bad that Indian was killed at the new track, seemed like that was the nail in the coffin for that facility. Right after I posted all of this yesterday I found another thread where all of this was already discussed and someone posted the exact same screen shot I did, haha. If you go on street view the entrance with no fear and FMF logos is still there, eerie. I never rode either track but my dad rode the original one in the 90's and has pictures.

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4/13/2020 2:50 PM

Trey Canard to Pro Circuit but they wouldn’t let him take his long time mechanic Brent

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4/13/2020 3:00 PM

Can somebody learn me about the deal McGrath had 7-8 years back to be a team owner? I remember it being hyped up, riders were hired, and it fizzled out. Was McGrath calling the shots, or was his name just being used to create some bait for the sponsors? I believe Andrew Short was signed to a contract.

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4/13/2020 5:19 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/13/2020 5:28 PM

Jeff_Crutcher wrote: Photo

Garden tool flaming KTM team in 2000.

A.M. Leonard with Terlecki and Oehlof were a one season satellite team that was ...more

Sorry misread

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4/13/2020 11:53 PM

hubbardmx50 wrote:

Its a shame how short lived Townley’s US career was, amazing rider for sure and would have a 250 outdoor Championship on his ...more

mxjon454 wrote:

Yaa it definitely sucks. If he didn’t get hurt in ‘06 when he first came over here he very well could’ve won that outdoor ...more

scott_nz wrote:

he won the qualifier in Thailand, then did an epic interview on how shit the track was, and they should have been in NZ,

he ...more

I was there that day. He surely looked super happy after the qualifier win! Photo
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