Dare I say Tomac getting a little Dungey'esque?

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Edited Date/Time 7/22/2017 3:06pm
Did a pretty good job of maximizing points on a bad day (at least for him and don't take "bad day" too literal). Seemed a little more patient.
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Gandorlf 7/22/2017 3:09pm
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Tomac's stated in the past he tends not to read people's comments about his riding on social stuff, but maybe he's taking note of people saying he's inconsistent?

But I agree he made the best of a shitty day, 1 point over BB4 is better than 0...
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kzizok wrote:
Did a pretty good job of maximizing points on a bad day (at least for him and don't take "bad day" too literal). Seemed a little...
Did a pretty good job of maximizing points on a bad day (at least for him and don't take "bad day" too literal). Seemed a little more patient.
He grows up.
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H4L 7/22/2017 3:19pm
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He's starting to figure things out in the big bike class & what it takes to win a championship. Good for him.

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Gandorlf wrote:
Tomac's stated in the past he tends not to read people's comments about his riding on social stuff, but maybe he's taking note of people saying...
Tomac's stated in the past he tends not to read people's comments about his riding on social stuff, but maybe he's taking note of people saying he's inconsistent?

But I agree he made the best of a shitty day, 1 point over BB4 is better than 0...
It's not like he read on vitalmx if he crashes less he will finish better more often and went "Wow why didn't I think of that?" Blink
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ledger 7/22/2017 5:59pm
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Impressed how much quicker he was to get back on the bike compared to when he had the red plate in Supercross.
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Fonzarelli 7/22/2017 6:02pm
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I was ecstatic to see him get to his bike and get going with a lot of urgency after that crash. He lost the SX championship by being a slowpoke picking up from a couple of crashes.

He's not Dungey though, how often did Dungey solo crash? Almost never.
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Fonzarelli 7/22/2017 6:03pm
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ledger wrote:
Impressed how much quicker he was to get back on the bike compared to when he had the red plate in Supercross.
OMG, you beat me....
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ledger 7/22/2017 6:10pm
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ledger wrote:
Impressed how much quicker he was to get back on the bike compared to when he had the red plate in Supercross.
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OMG, you beat me....
We are very wise....Wink
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kzizok 7/22/2017 6:13pm
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I was ecstatic to see him get to his bike and get going with a lot of urgency after that crash. He lost the SX championship...
I was ecstatic to see him get to his bike and get going with a lot of urgency after that crash. He lost the SX championship by being a slowpoke picking up from a couple of crashes.

He's not Dungey though, how often did Dungey solo crash? Almost never.
Thats why I said a "little Dungey'esque".
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Bultaco 7/22/2017 6:31pm
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60 points ahead of today's winner. He does not need to hurry or push himself. Other than bragging rights and bonus $$$, no need for Eli to do much more than ride around.
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ledger 7/22/2017 6:46pm
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Bultaco wrote:
60 points ahead of today's winner. He does not need to hurry or push himself. Other than bragging rights and bonus $$$, no need for Eli...
60 points ahead of today's winner. He does not need to hurry or push himself. Other than bragging rights and bonus $$$, no need for Eli to do much more than ride around.
Yep, he needs to ride smart, but BB will be on Eli's back tire. If ET3 learned anything from Dungey, now is the time to apply it. Only 20 points between the two.
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BobbyM 7/22/2017 7:31pm
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H4L wrote:
He's starting to figure things out in the big bike class & what it takes to win a championship. Good for him.
Yup smart kid... After Dungey schooled him he had no choice I believe. Good for him.. Hope he stacks up a lot of titles.
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gnarwhip 7/22/2017 8:32pm
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Yeah it's amazing what happens when your front wheel still works after a simple crash.
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Titan1 7/22/2017 8:51pm
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I have a feeling Tomac is going to rack up a bunch of wins and titles...
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GuyB 7/22/2017 10:13pm
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Sure, you could say that...but why?

You can't argue with the results.
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Jay Cee 7/22/2017 11:44pm
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Gandorlf wrote:
Tomac's stated in the past he tends not to read people's comments about his riding on social stuff, but maybe he's taking note of people saying...
Tomac's stated in the past he tends not to read people's comments about his riding on social stuff, but maybe he's taking note of people saying he's inconsistent?

But I agree he made the best of a shitty day, 1 point over BB4 is better than 0...
Hut wrote:
It's not like he read on vitalmx if he crashes less he will finish better more often and went "Wow why didn't I think of that?"...
It's not like he read on vitalmx if he crashes less he will finish better more often and went "Wow why didn't I think of that?" Blink
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KurtJ99 7/22/2017 11:47pm
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If ET3's crash resulted in a front brake problem I think I would have thrown my beer at my TV. Glad he was able to get up quickly like others noted and NOT HURT.
That crash could've been much worse if the bike hit him as it was flipping.

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fullfloater 7/23/2017 2:59am
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I've been thinking exactly that all season. He doesn't seem to be rushing things and it's paying off. You just have to think that he (and a lot of riders) have evaluated Dungey's willingness to let the titles come to him. It's not easy to take 2nds and 3rds and just expect that someone is going to falter. Happens every year though!

Like others said above, I sure was happy to see him run for his bike. Really lucky he tucked and didn't land on his shoulder too.
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ocscottie 7/23/2017 5:40am
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Have you guys been drinking?

...or am i alone here lol
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RangerLee 7/23/2017 8:28am
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Bultaco wrote:
60 points ahead of today's winner. He does not need to hurry or push himself. Other than bragging rights and bonus $$$, no need for Eli...
60 points ahead of today's winner. He does not need to hurry or push himself. Other than bragging rights and bonus $$$, no need for Eli to do much more than ride around.
Yep, and the big bonus $$$ is with the championship at the end of the season. He did great today.
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DoctorJD 7/23/2017 8:59am
7/23/2017 8:59am
Let's wait until he's won some championships before we make the comparison.
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davistld01 7/23/2017 10:20am
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DoctorJD wrote:
Let's wait until he's won some championships before we make the comparison.
Yep. This is Eli's first real run at a 450 Championship where it's his title to lose. He's had the opportunity to throw away titles by crashing under the pressure, or making beginner mistakes...and he's seen what racecraft looks like (Dungey).

We'll see how the rest of the season goes.
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Phantom 661 7/23/2017 11:05am
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The only thing I saw that was Dungey esque was Eli rushing to get back on his bike. Eli would kill to have Ryan's constant cool headed racing skills.

I don't subscribe to the notion that Dungey waited for the titles to come to him by counting on others to emplode. I do agree that RD would settle for a podium spot rather than risk hitting the deck for a win at times. Stats may not tell the whole story but a brief look at the record book proves that Dunge counted on nothing but his own racing skills.

Eli is a super talented rider. If he can stay focused and emulate Ryan's ability to limit mistakes... then it's game over for everyone else from here on out for quite some time I think.
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Sargent Rock 7/23/2017 11:51am
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The brute force that he shows at times is just mind blowing to me personally. When he is on the bike and a pile of dirt just explodes from underneath the machine, it is just I don't know how he does it category . The other riders have amazing amazing talent , but Eli in the strength category is off the charts . imo
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Phantom 661 7/23/2017 12:23pm
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Sargent Rock wrote:
The brute force that he shows at times is just mind blowing to me personally. When he is on the bike and a pile of dirt...
The brute force that he shows at times is just mind blowing to me personally. When he is on the bike and a pile of dirt just explodes from underneath the machine, it is just I don't know how he does it category . The other riders have amazing amazing talent , but Eli in the strength category is off the charts . imo
Yes, that's no joke. When Eli makes it happen it's worthy of a rewind or two that's for sure.
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ledger wrote:
Impressed how much quicker he was to get back on the bike compared to when he had the red plate in Supercross.
Fonzarelli wrote:
OMG, you beat me....
Probably had nothing to do with being down on the backside of a downhill and not getting mauled did it?
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ledger 7/23/2017 8:17pm
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ledger wrote:
Impressed how much quicker he was to get back on the bike compared to when he had the red plate in Supercross.
Fonzarelli wrote:
OMG, you beat me....
1st Amendment wrote:
Probably had nothing to do with being down on the backside of a downhill and not getting mauled did it?
He had two options. Correct ?
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FTB 7/23/2017 8:32pm
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ocscottie wrote:
Have you guys been drinking?

...or am i alone here lol
That's what I was thinking Laughing .
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FTB 7/23/2017 8:35pm
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Titan1 wrote:
I have a feeling Tomac is going to rack up a bunch of wins and titles...
Well he isn't doing so well with wins this year. And he should have racked those titles up already.
Not long ago people were saying he'd be unbeaten for the entire season Dry .
IMO, he's under performed this year in a big way. If he was as consistant at beating his competition as he was at beating himself he'd shit it in. It was his championship to lose and he's going the right way about doing that.

And he sucked yesterday, there was nothing good about that ride. For a rider of his level, it was a true shocker.

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