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Edited Date/Time 9/13/2022 4:28pm
Great work DV.
Dylan was as fast as Adam all year just really poor starts. Must feel great. Just proves DV is a great trainer even if his approach is unconventional.
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dirtworldmx 5/5/2019 3:38pm
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Ferrandis got a lucky break....and Musquin took a step backwards. Yep, DV was definitely coach of the year.
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Yeah he's good, but can he train a dog to get the mail?
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dirtworldmx wrote:
Ferrandis got a lucky break....and Musquin took a step backwards. Yep, DV was definitely coach of the year.
Well, to be fair, the whoops didn’t look like Marvin’s Achilles Heel this year. He actually did pretty well in them. And let’s not forget that red flag incident tweaked his final results a bit this year too.
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plowboy 5/5/2019 3:54pm
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DV is like a bulldog. So ugly he's lovable. He obviously helped Dylan get where he needed to be. Kudos sent.
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TbonesPop 5/5/2019 3:59pm
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dirtworldmx wrote:
Ferrandis got a lucky break....and Musquin took a step backwards. Yep, DV was definitely coach of the year.
Not making any comments about DV, but with respect to Ferrandis and "lucky breaks". Recall he was winning the race in SD (mudder) and his engine let go about 3 turns from the end of the race when he was winning. He ended up 7th and getting 16 points instead of 26 points in that race. That would have given him 10 points more on the season which would have given him a 2 point lead going into the last race. When we put all the lucky and unlucky breaks into the season and purely look at racing, DF and AC were almost dead nuts even. AC had more outright wins but had a propensity to make mistakes more often. DF was more consistent. But in the end, they were damn near even going into Vegas.
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DUDE did anyone think DV was even capable of showing that much positive emotion?!?! WOW
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Dimblewambie 5/5/2019 9:44pm
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dirtworldmx wrote:
Ferrandis got a lucky break....and Musquin took a step backwards. Yep, DV was definitely coach of the year.
TbonesPop wrote:
Not making any comments about DV, but with respect to Ferrandis and "lucky breaks". Recall he was winning the race in SD (mudder) and his engine...
Not making any comments about DV, but with respect to Ferrandis and "lucky breaks". Recall he was winning the race in SD (mudder) and his engine let go about 3 turns from the end of the race when he was winning. He ended up 7th and getting 16 points instead of 26 points in that race. That would have given him 10 points more on the season which would have given him a 2 point lead going into the last race. When we put all the lucky and unlucky breaks into the season and purely look at racing, DF and AC were almost dead nuts even. AC had more outright wins but had a propensity to make mistakes more often. DF was more consistent. But in the end, they were damn near even going into Vegas.
No, he was never leading.
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TbonesPop 5/5/2019 10:31pm
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No, he was never leading. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/05/344605/s1200_7774835E_E52C_41EE_A2EE_83BD83A05595.jpg[/img]
No, he was never leading.
Ya, I looked it up after the fact and saw that he was in 3rd place when the engine went kaboom. So he lost 4 spots on the last lap with 3 corners to go. Thus he dropped from 21 points down to 16 points - losing 5 points on the night. Had that not happened, he would have been -3 going into Vegas to AC. Still dead nuts even pretty much.

I think the main point still holds true. DF still rode a great series and nothing was given to him. A lot of people act like AC's failure was a gift to DF. But the reality is, all bad luck aside for both riders he still came out on top. Luck counts. His bad luck just wasn't as bad as AC's bad luck. AC rode a great series too. Sucks to end that way for him. Congrats to DF on a hard earned championship.
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mxjon454 5/5/2019 10:49pm
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dirtworldmx wrote:
Ferrandis got a lucky break....and Musquin took a step backwards. Yep, DV was definitely coach of the year.
Ferrandis didn’t get a lucky break lol he put himself in the right position by being out front and taking the win while AC did what AC has done forever and that’s having a brain fart and making a very costly mistake. IMO Musquin was the same, Webb just caught him off guard especially because Marv thought he was the number one guy in the KTM semi. Every season Marv is right there with a couple wins and a bunch of podiums, but he always comes up a little short. He looked better in the whoops this year tho. Whether you like the guy or not, DV did a great job this year.
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Lastander 5/6/2019 12:27am
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Everybody gave DV shit when he was the ”cause” for Craig sucking in SX.
Craig still sucks and DV got a championship
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dirtworldmx wrote:
Ferrandis got a lucky break....and Musquin took a step backwards. Yep, DV was definitely coach of the year.
I would argue that AC himself had a bit of luck with him this season. His two really bad races came in the triple crown rounds. He would've been screwed if those would've taken place in the normal format.
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dirtworldmx wrote:
Ferrandis got a lucky break....and Musquin took a step backwards. Yep, DV was definitely coach of the year.
Motofinne wrote:
I would argue that AC himself had a bit of luck with him this season. His two really bad races came in the triple crown rounds...
I would argue that AC himself had a bit of luck with him this season. His two really bad races came in the triple crown rounds. He would've been screwed if those would've taken place in the normal format.
Agreed. Coupled with Ferrandis mechanical, which without it Ferrandis would have been the one holding the red plate in Vegas instead of AC and the crash wouldnt have been such a big deal.

AC has shown once again that he´s blazing fast but coming up just short because of his own mistakes. He´s still an amazing rider and will surely be a champion at some point but he still needs to figure out some things. Its not just this crash at Vegas, there has been multiple times this season that he´s made mistakes that cost him.

Its mostly small mistakes though and I´m confident he will fix it.
Unlike Forkner, who just kept on making big crashes in timed sessions which finally bit him in the end, Adams mistakes has been more main event related. Small crashes, tipovers and general miscalculations rather than the big crashes that plagued him in the past.
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MM25 prolly paid a lot of money to look a sliver better in the whoops. I remember more races where he was losing time in the whoops than gaining, and when he wasn’t losing time, he was jumping them.

Congrats to DF though, he looked great all season.
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all things considered, racing is racing...sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. DV did a good job, but Ferrandis put himself in a position to be there at the end, on top.
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DV posted this on Twitter, he and a 4 year old Dylan back in '98, congrats to everyone who had a hand in making the championship happen.

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Yeah that's a pretty cool picture. As for Coach DV, he's not a magician but he was a hard worker in the days and he knows what he's speaking about. Cool for Dylan and him to take this title. Congrats David !
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dirtworldmx wrote:
Ferrandis got a lucky break....and Musquin took a step backwards. Yep, DV was definitely coach of the year.
TbonesPop wrote:
Not making any comments about DV, but with respect to Ferrandis and "lucky breaks". Recall he was winning the race in SD (mudder) and his engine...
Not making any comments about DV, but with respect to Ferrandis and "lucky breaks". Recall he was winning the race in SD (mudder) and his engine let go about 3 turns from the end of the race when he was winning. He ended up 7th and getting 16 points instead of 26 points in that race. That would have given him 10 points more on the season which would have given him a 2 point lead going into the last race. When we put all the lucky and unlucky breaks into the season and purely look at racing, DF and AC were almost dead nuts even. AC had more outright wins but had a propensity to make mistakes more often. DF was more consistent. But in the end, they were damn near even going into Vegas.
Never leading..
Very lucky it happened on last lap and he still got decent points!
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Kyle_McNab 5/6/2019 7:02am
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Yeah Adam didn’t just loose it tonight. He had 2 or 3 nights where he made crucial mistakes which creates pressure he shouldn’t have going into Vegas
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early wrote:
DV posted this on Twitter, he and a 4 year old Dylan back in '98, congrats to everyone who had a hand in making the championship...
DV posted this on Twitter, he and a 4 year old Dylan back in '98, congrats to everyone who had a hand in making the championship happen.

That there has become moto gold fellas.
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early wrote:
DV posted this on Twitter, he and a 4 year old Dylan back in '98, congrats to everyone who had a hand in making the championship...
DV posted this on Twitter, he and a 4 year old Dylan back in '98, congrats to everyone who had a hand in making the championship happen.

plowboy wrote:
That there has become moto gold fellas.
That’s pretty cool
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Spudinki45 5/6/2019 3:56pm
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TbonesPop wrote:
Not making any comments about DV, but with respect to Ferrandis and "lucky breaks". Recall he was winning the race in SD (mudder) and his engine...
Not making any comments about DV, but with respect to Ferrandis and "lucky breaks". Recall he was winning the race in SD (mudder) and his engine let go about 3 turns from the end of the race when he was winning. He ended up 7th and getting 16 points instead of 26 points in that race. That would have given him 10 points more on the season which would have given him a 2 point lead going into the last race. When we put all the lucky and unlucky breaks into the season and purely look at racing, DF and AC were almost dead nuts even. AC had more outright wins but had a propensity to make mistakes more often. DF was more consistent. But in the end, they were damn near even going into Vegas.
Ferrandis was actually in 3rd if you remember Marchbanks and AC were leading so he actually lost 5 points by finishing 7th and getting 16 points vs 3rd and 21 still would've had him behind going into Vegas but would only be a 3 point gap. Another factor was when he got a good start in Glendale and was on rails that (His whoop speed in person wad unreal) but wadded on the first lap and went from last to 6th.
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Yeti365 5/6/2019 4:17pm
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You don't win championships on "luck".

People on here are a riot lol
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TbonesPop 5/6/2019 4:32pm
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TbonesPop wrote:
Not making any comments about DV, but with respect to Ferrandis and "lucky breaks". Recall he was winning the race in SD (mudder) and his engine...
Not making any comments about DV, but with respect to Ferrandis and "lucky breaks". Recall he was winning the race in SD (mudder) and his engine let go about 3 turns from the end of the race when he was winning. He ended up 7th and getting 16 points instead of 26 points in that race. That would have given him 10 points more on the season which would have given him a 2 point lead going into the last race. When we put all the lucky and unlucky breaks into the season and purely look at racing, DF and AC were almost dead nuts even. AC had more outright wins but had a propensity to make mistakes more often. DF was more consistent. But in the end, they were damn near even going into Vegas.
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Ferrandis was actually in 3rd if you remember Marchbanks and AC were leading so he actually lost 5 points by finishing 7th and getting 16 points...
Ferrandis was actually in 3rd if you remember Marchbanks and AC were leading so he actually lost 5 points by finishing 7th and getting 16 points vs 3rd and 21 still would've had him behind going into Vegas but would only be a 3 point gap. Another factor was when he got a good start in Glendale and was on rails that (His whoop speed in person wad unreal) but wadded on the first lap and went from last to 6th.
Hideeho neighbor!...ya, I went back and looked up the details and put it in a follow up post that DF was in 3rd, not in the lead like I originally posted. That would have cut 5 points out of ACs lead to drop it to 3 points going into Vegas. The point of all of it was, many folks put AC losing the championship due to bad luck in just the last race, but reality is DF had some bad luck too with the bike quitting on him. I like both riders regardless. But I have the impression some people aren't fully giving DF the credit he deserved for winning the championship and are more blaming AC for "Cracking" under pressure and handing it to DF. I don't think that is accurate. While AC did crash, at the end of the day the points are the points over a 9 race season. The rider with the most points won. Too much emphasis is being put on AC crashing late in the main. Feel terrible for him, but DF just rode a more consistent season.

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PastranaWho 5/6/2019 5:12pm
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Should be AC championship but shit happens sometimes. Same goes with forkner, them PC boys were on it this sx season.
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Anyone saying Ferrandis just caught a lucky break has no clue what they're talking about. Ferrandis had worse luck overall in the season than AC did. Charging to the front from bad starts all season wasn't luck. Smoking everybody's ass at Vegas when he needed to win wasn't luck. Not crashing in whoops or botching a rithym section at Vegas was not luck. He had a bike issue during the season that cost him several points. Ferrandis didn't win the title due to luck or a specific "lucky break". He won it because of his speed, consistency, and AC cracking under the pressure that he put on AC all the through the season and into the Vegas finals. Lucky break my ass. You're confusing Ferrandis with Sexton. Ferrandis earned it. Every bit of it. Maybe DV played a big roll. Maybe he didn't. Ferrandis is legit though. So is his title. It was close in points and to the wire. Had AC not gone down, he would have been the legit champ but he faultered and Ferrandis didnt. Behold the champ Dylan Ferrandis. Luck had nothing to do with it. Ferrandis whooped the guy who whooped Forkner who easily whooped Sexton's ass at will. I love AC to death but Dylan Ferrandis is the best 250 rider in America.
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KONG 9/13/2022 12:52pm
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DV and Ferrandis officially part ways.

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fourfourone 9/13/2022 12:59pm
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KONG wrote:
DV and Ferrandis officially part ways.

why revive a 3 year old thread...
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KONG 9/13/2022 1:02pm
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Since it's the end of the same story, why open a new one?
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plowboy 9/13/2022 1:08pm
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KONG wrote:
Since it's the end of the same story, why open a new one?
I vaguely remember something along these lines a short while back. Do we know why?
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