Crf 450rwe!!!!

doright507 wrote:

I paid 14,300.00 cash in New York...

Skuzzy29 wrote:

Metcalfe sure seems to hate it! ...lol

https://player.fm/series/the-steve-matthes-show-on-racerx/fxr-racingrace-tech-privateer-island-142-brett-metcalfe?t=1208

Skuzzy29 wrote:

Metcalfe sure seems to hate it! ...lol

https://player.fm/series/the-steve-matthes-show-on-racerx/fxr-racingrace-tech-privateer-island-142-brett-metcalfe?t=1208

Meister wrote:

You scared me a little. Lol

doright507 wrote:

Lol I was in disbelief before listening to it!

Skuzzy29 wrote:

The disbelief was that it's so dangerous to ride, he went 1-1!!! ...lol

Skuzzy29 wrote:

The disbelief was that it's so dangerous to ride, he went 1-1!!! ...lol

hypermoto wrote:

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch. Of course the CRF is dangerous and...

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch.

Of course the CRF is dangerous and unridable to them

mxrider118 wrote:

paid 16k cash in Canada

greg570 wrote:

Few Ks more in remapping and suspension and you will be actually able to ride it... lol

doright507 wrote:

I paid 14,300.00 cash in New York...

Skuzzy29 wrote:

The disbelief was that it's so dangerous to ride, he went 1-1!!! ...lol

hypermoto wrote:

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch. Of course the CRF is dangerous and...

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch.

Of course the CRF is dangerous and unridable to them

Skuzzy29 wrote:

The disbelief was that it's so dangerous to ride, he went 1-1!!! ...lol

hypermoto wrote:

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch. Of course the CRF is dangerous and...

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch.

Of course the CRF is dangerous and unridable to them

Renner153 wrote:

Yeah because everyone loves when a bike cuts out on the face of a jump, right? Know how I know this? Because it happened to me...

Yeah because everyone loves when a bike cuts out on the face of a jump, right? Know how I know this? Because it happened to me 3 times and my buddy more. There’s a big difference between Someone claiming to feel a minute change in something and a literal bike cut out. You’re right though, I probably should tell my buddy that’s not got decades of riding under his belt that everything is fine just go pin it.

Skuzzy29 wrote:

The disbelief was that it's so dangerous to ride, he went 1-1!!! ...lol

hypermoto wrote:

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch. Of course the CRF is dangerous and...

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch.

Of course the CRF is dangerous and unridable to them

Renner153 wrote:

Yeah because everyone loves when a bike cuts out on the face of a jump, right? Know how I know this? Because it happened to me...

Yeah because everyone loves when a bike cuts out on the face of a jump, right? Know how I know this? Because it happened to me 3 times and my buddy more. There’s a big difference between Someone claiming to feel a minute change in something and a literal bike cut out. You’re right though, I probably should tell my buddy that’s not got decades of riding under his belt that everything is fine just go pin it.

hypermoto wrote:

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch. Of course the CRF is dangerous and...

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch.

Of course the CRF is dangerous and unridable to them

Renner153 wrote:

Yeah because everyone loves when a bike cuts out on the face of a jump, right? Know how I know this? Because it happened to me...

Yeah because everyone loves when a bike cuts out on the face of a jump, right? Know how I know this? Because it happened to me 3 times and my buddy more. There’s a big difference between Someone claiming to feel a minute change in something and a literal bike cut out. You’re right though, I probably should tell my buddy that’s not got decades of riding under his belt that everything is fine just go pin it.

doright507 wrote:

Hey Renner, I don’t doubt what’s going on with your buddies bike, i believe you 100 percent, and I think most of us do, maybe not...

Hey Renner, I don’t doubt what’s going on with your buddies bike, i believe you 100 percent, and I think most of us do, maybe not all, but I speak for myself when I say, I think it might not be every bike that Honda produced. I mean I’ll be the first one to post about a problem, once I get on the bike, but don’t be mad at me for being optimistic after spending 14k on a dirt bike that could potentially have an ecu problem. Fingers are crossed that it just might be a certain amount that could be affected. Please let us know if you figure out the issue, thanks dude, Merry Christmas folks.

hypermoto wrote:

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch. Of course the CRF is dangerous and...

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch.

Of course the CRF is dangerous and unridable to them

Renner153 wrote:

Yeah because everyone loves when a bike cuts out on the face of a jump, right? Know how I know this? Because it happened to me...

Yeah because everyone loves when a bike cuts out on the face of a jump, right? Know how I know this? Because it happened to me 3 times and my buddy more. There’s a big difference between Someone claiming to feel a minute change in something and a literal bike cut out. You’re right though, I probably should tell my buddy that’s not got decades of riding under his belt that everything is fine just go pin it.

hypermoto wrote:

Come on, you think Honda and all of their test riders gave the final stamp of approval to a bike that is dangerous to ride because...

Come on, you think Honda and all of their test riders gave the final stamp of approval to a bike that is dangerous to ride because it cuts out on jump faces?

It’s cutting out. Clearly an electrical issue. He may have a lemon, or better yet, some faulty electrical connection or part.

The “slight” bog these bikes have, is NOT a safety issue. As it happens so low in the rpm curve and is not significant at all. Most testers (basically all from what I’ve seen) seem to agree. Not once has any used the term “dangerous”.

Honda has sold A LOT of these bikes. If they were cutting out on jump faces hurting people, you’d know. You are the ONLY one I have seen or heard with this experience.

hypermoto wrote:

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch. Of course the CRF is dangerous and...

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch.

Of course the CRF is dangerous and unridable to them

Renner153 wrote:

Yeah because everyone loves when a bike cuts out on the face of a jump, right? Know how I know this? Because it happened to me...

Yeah because everyone loves when a bike cuts out on the face of a jump, right? Know how I know this? Because it happened to me 3 times and my buddy more. There’s a big difference between Someone claiming to feel a minute change in something and a literal bike cut out. You’re right though, I probably should tell my buddy that’s not got decades of riding under his belt that everything is fine just go pin it.

hypermoto wrote:

Come on, you think Honda and all of their test riders gave the final stamp of approval to a bike that is dangerous to ride because...

Come on, you think Honda and all of their test riders gave the final stamp of approval to a bike that is dangerous to ride because it cuts out on jump faces?

It’s cutting out. Clearly an electrical issue. He may have a lemon, or better yet, some faulty electrical connection or part.

The “slight” bog these bikes have, is NOT a safety issue. As it happens so low in the rpm curve and is not significant at all. Most testers (basically all from what I’ve seen) seem to agree. Not once has any used the term “dangerous”.

Honda has sold A LOT of these bikes. If they were cutting out on jump faces hurting people, you’d know. You are the ONLY one I have seen or heard with this experience.

Renner153 wrote:

Yeah because everyone loves when a bike cuts out on the face of a jump, right? Know how I know this? Because it happened to me...

Yeah because everyone loves when a bike cuts out on the face of a jump, right? Know how I know this? Because it happened to me 3 times and my buddy more. There’s a big difference between Someone claiming to feel a minute change in something and a literal bike cut out. You’re right though, I probably should tell my buddy that’s not got decades of riding under his belt that everything is fine just go pin it.

hypermoto wrote:

Come on, you think Honda and all of their test riders gave the final stamp of approval to a bike that is dangerous to ride because...

Come on, you think Honda and all of their test riders gave the final stamp of approval to a bike that is dangerous to ride because it cuts out on jump faces?

It’s cutting out. Clearly an electrical issue. He may have a lemon, or better yet, some faulty electrical connection or part.

The “slight” bog these bikes have, is NOT a safety issue. As it happens so low in the rpm curve and is not significant at all. Most testers (basically all from what I’ve seen) seem to agree. Not once has any used the term “dangerous”.

Honda has sold A LOT of these bikes. If they were cutting out on jump faces hurting people, you’d know. You are the ONLY one I have seen or heard with this experience.

Renner153 wrote:

You’re so sensitive bro. Im just giving you the feedback from actually riding the bike. The “slight bog” these bikes have should be a major concerned...

You’re so sensitive bro. Im just giving you the feedback from actually riding the bike. The “slight bog” these bikes have should be a major concerned for someone paying 12-14k for a bike. I know that my ktm has no “slight bog” in it. And yes, a slight bog when riding a local sx style track could be an issue for someone that doesn’t have the experience to deal with it properly.

Skuzzy29 wrote:

The disbelief was that it's so dangerous to ride, he went 1-1!!! ...lol

hypermoto wrote:

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch. Of course the CRF is dangerous and...

You gotta remember, vital members can feel the difference in frame flex with 1ft/lbs difference on their clutch perch.

Of course the CRF is dangerous and unridable to them

Renner153 wrote:

Yeah because everyone loves when a bike cuts out on the face of a jump, right? Know how I know this? Because it happened to me...

Yeah because everyone loves when a bike cuts out on the face of a jump, right? Know how I know this? Because it happened to me 3 times and my buddy more. There’s a big difference between Someone claiming to feel a minute change in something and a literal bike cut out. You’re right though, I probably should tell my buddy that’s not got decades of riding under his belt that everything is fine just go pin it.

hypermoto wrote:

Come on, you think Honda and all of their test riders gave the final stamp of approval to a bike that is dangerous to ride because...

Come on, you think Honda and all of their test riders gave the final stamp of approval to a bike that is dangerous to ride because it cuts out on jump faces?

It’s cutting out. Clearly an electrical issue. He may have a lemon, or better yet, some faulty electrical connection or part.

The “slight” bog these bikes have, is NOT a safety issue. As it happens so low in the rpm curve and is not significant at all. Most testers (basically all from what I’ve seen) seem to agree. Not once has any used the term “dangerous”.

Honda has sold A LOT of these bikes. If they were cutting out on jump faces hurting people, you’d know. You are the ONLY one I have seen or heard with this experience.

Renner153 wrote:

You’re so sensitive bro. Im just giving you the feedback from actually riding the bike. The “slight bog” these bikes have should be a major concerned...

You’re so sensitive bro. Im just giving you the feedback from actually riding the bike. The “slight bog” these bikes have should be a major concerned for someone paying 12-14k for a bike. I know that my ktm has no “slight bog” in it. And yes, a slight bog when riding a local sx style track could be an issue for someone that doesn’t have the experience to deal with it properly.

hypermoto wrote:

Like I mentioned, I also rode the bike. I’m not a Honda guy, never will be. But find it funny when people loyal to other brands...

Like I mentioned, I also rode the bike.

I’m not a Honda guy, never will be. But find it funny when people loyal to other brands really overexaggerate issues with one brand. Look, it’s not perfect. Neither is a KTM, or a Kawi, or a Suzuki, etc.

What you rode is clearly not the slight bog issue (some professional, national level testers, mentioned they don’t even notice the bog). It’s an electrical issue or an actual fuel delivery issue. Not mapping related.

hypermoto wrote:

Agreed Everyone talking about the “bog” have you ridden one? Last ride of the season I got to spin 5-6 laps on one. When i was...

Agreed

Everyone talking about the “bog” have you ridden one?

Last ride of the season I got to spin 5-6 laps on one. When i was on a sight lap, lugging the bike everywhere, there is a bit of a gurgle, but not once did I notice anything when I was doing normal laps on it. EVERY bike bogs or has a hesitation when you are in too high of a gear rolling around on a sight lap.

This “unridable bog” is such an exaggeration

hypermoto wrote:

Agreed Everyone talking about the “bog” have you ridden one? Last ride of the season I got to spin 5-6 laps on one. When i was...

Agreed

Everyone talking about the “bog” have you ridden one?

Last ride of the season I got to spin 5-6 laps on one. When i was on a sight lap, lugging the bike everywhere, there is a bit of a gurgle, but not once did I notice anything when I was doing normal laps on it. EVERY bike bogs or has a hesitation when you are in too high of a gear rolling around on a sight lap.

This “unridable bog” is such an exaggeration

hititpind wrote:

I don’t think most new bikes bog. My 19 Kawi doesn’t bog. Either does my buddies 20 Yamaha. Trey Canard even talked about how bad it...

I don’t think most new bikes bog. My 19 Kawi doesn’t bog. Either does my buddies 20 Yamaha. Trey Canard even talked about how bad it was the other Day. It sounds like it can be fixed, but to say it’s normal when it isn’t.

hypermoto wrote:

Agreed Everyone talking about the “bog” have you ridden one? Last ride of the season I got to spin 5-6 laps on one. When i was...

Agreed

Everyone talking about the “bog” have you ridden one?

Last ride of the season I got to spin 5-6 laps on one. When i was on a sight lap, lugging the bike everywhere, there is a bit of a gurgle, but not once did I notice anything when I was doing normal laps on it. EVERY bike bogs or has a hesitation when you are in too high of a gear rolling around on a sight lap.

This “unridable bog” is such an exaggeration

hititpind wrote:

I don’t think most new bikes bog. My 19 Kawi doesn’t bog. Either does my buddies 20 Yamaha. Trey Canard even talked about how bad it...

I don’t think most new bikes bog. My 19 Kawi doesn’t bog. Either does my buddies 20 Yamaha. Trey Canard even talked about how bad it was the other Day. It sounds like it can be fixed, but to say it’s normal when it isn’t.

hypermoto wrote:

Do the situation I said and it’ll hesitate or bog. Put your 450 in 3rd, and putt around a corner slowly then go full throttle. It...

Do the situation I said and it’ll hesitate or bog. Put your 450 in 3rd, and putt around a corner slowly then go full throttle. It won’t instantly be screaming. That’s how the new Honda is, for a split millisecond at very very low rpm, that unless you are riding SX, you would never be in.

I get if you are a Supercross racer, it’s not ideal. But the slight rich bog is fixable, and nobody racing SX isn’t putting a few thousand into suspension, so what’s $250 to send your ignition into vertex? It shouldn’t be mandatory, but it is (if you want to race SX).

Do people forget we used carb’s for 10+ years on 4 strokes? They all had a bog that got worse the hotter the bike got. Ask guys that raced SX on them. But it was what it was. People still rode. The MX community has become such delicate flowers. Bikes that don’t have INSTANT 60 hp at 1rpm are unridable. Forks slightly stiff? Unridable. Tires not MX33’s? Unridable. Yet we talk about bringing 2 strokes back. The most raw MX bikes made. Fuck man...

hititpind wrote:

I don’t think most new bikes bog. My 19 Kawi doesn’t bog. Either does my buddies 20 Yamaha. Trey Canard even talked about how bad it...

I don’t think most new bikes bog. My 19 Kawi doesn’t bog. Either does my buddies 20 Yamaha. Trey Canard even talked about how bad it was the other Day. It sounds like it can be fixed, but to say it’s normal when it isn’t.

hypermoto wrote:

Do the situation I said and it’ll hesitate or bog. Put your 450 in 3rd, and putt around a corner slowly then go full throttle. It...

Do the situation I said and it’ll hesitate or bog. Put your 450 in 3rd, and putt around a corner slowly then go full throttle. It won’t instantly be screaming. That’s how the new Honda is, for a split millisecond at very very low rpm, that unless you are riding SX, you would never be in.

I get if you are a Supercross racer, it’s not ideal. But the slight rich bog is fixable, and nobody racing SX isn’t putting a few thousand into suspension, so what’s $250 to send your ignition into vertex? It shouldn’t be mandatory, but it is (if you want to race SX).

Do people forget we used carb’s for 10+ years on 4 strokes? They all had a bog that got worse the hotter the bike got. Ask guys that raced SX on them. But it was what it was. People still rode. The MX community has become such delicate flowers. Bikes that don’t have INSTANT 60 hp at 1rpm are unridable. Forks slightly stiff? Unridable. Tires not MX33’s? Unridable. Yet we talk about bringing 2 strokes back. The most raw MX bikes made. Fuck man...

H4L wrote:

Chill out Nancy.. It's Christmas !