Craig's whoop speed

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I think it's generally accepted that Craig is one of the best at getting through the whoops fast. I'm curious if anyone remembers him Hitting the deck through them? I'd say between his speed and lack of crashes in them he has to be near the top in the "Best in the whoops ever" conversation.
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gt80rider 4/18/2022 8:12am
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Only this year right? I don't remember Craig being king of the whoops before 22'....

Mookie used to be the whoop king... but definitely not this year... et3 used to be a beast in them as well.... and of course james was probably the gnarliest ever....
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agn5008 4/18/2022 8:14am
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I’m not sure if he’s one of the best or not but I remember Pastrana blitzing the “whoops” at Steel City years ago. All I can say is wow, I’ve never seen anything like it. And those things were massive
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stantdm 4/18/2022 8:19am
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I watched Guy Cooper blast through whoops as fast as most could ride on flat ground.
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Gordon Liddy 4/18/2022 8:19am
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He has been incredible in the whoops all year. His bike looks perfectly dialed.
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Magoofan 4/18/2022 9:34am
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Clearly his whoop speeds are due to his family connections....

(sarcasm)

I think I remember him crashing hard in one of the last two seasons through the whoops.


But yeah...2022, he is the king.
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HD1200 4/18/2022 9:56am
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I'm curious if he can handle the 450 through the whoops as good as he can on the 250?!

I don't see him being any better than the top of the premier class, Sexton, Anderson, Tomac, Kenny.
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FIREfish148 4/18/2022 10:14am
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He definitely can blitz the shit out of some whoops. What was impressive to see at Seattle was how he was blitzing them as fast by the 2nd or 3rd lap of first practice as anyone did all day. I would definitely put him in top 5 all time for being able to hammer whoops at high speed. James Stewart was the fastest all time in whoops in my opinion though. Pastrana was also incredibly fast in whoops.

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zookrider62! 4/18/2022 10:55am
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We're talking whoops speed and no one has brought up Millsaps, that's a damn shame
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JJO741 4/18/2022 11:05am
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Craig has always been fast through them, he just got faster in other portions of the track which is where he was lacking compared to the top guys in previous years. Anaheim 2 2016, there was a big set of whoops in right field. Craig was definitely the fastest 250 guy there and he was able to keep Webb behind him most of the race because of it even though Webb was faster everywhere else. I think he did the same thing in Glendale that year as well.

I always watched Craig in practice and when there was a big set, he was always one of if not the fastest guy through them. His technique and suspension set up are on point and it’s noticeable how much better he is there compared to the rest of the field outside of Jett.
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Grizz 4/18/2022 12:06pm
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Nobody is faster than Craig through a fresh set of whoops. Nobody.
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zippytech 4/18/2022 12:06pm
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stantdm wrote:
I watched Guy Cooper blast through whoops as fast as most could ride on flat ground.
Some times he would just jump the entire set.
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Dirty Points 4/18/2022 1:21pm
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gt80rider wrote:
Only this year right? I don't remember Craig being king of the whoops before 22'.... Mookie used to be the whoop king... but definitely not this...
Only this year right? I don't remember Craig being king of the whoops before 22'....

Mookie used to be the whoop king... but definitely not this year... et3 used to be a beast in them as well.... and of course james was probably the gnarliest ever....
First off, the whoops this year have been a significant change over the last several years in size, so whatever worked in 2018 may not really apply here.

Secondly, Craig has been a beast in the whoops his whole career. I've mentioned this before, but rewatch Glendale 2016, where eventual dominant 250SX champion Copper Webb lost to Craig despite absolutely crushing him on every other part of track, based solely on Craig's whoop speed.
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woody woodpecker 4/18/2022 1:35pm
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zookrider62! wrote:
We're talking whoops speed and no one has brought up Millsaps, that's a damn shame
Millsaps made the whoops look flat. His corner speed was also insane on the Suzuki that year he was killing it.
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Dm370 4/18/2022 2:30pm
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I wonder how the European frame will suit him
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soresammy 4/18/2022 2:40pm
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FIREfish148 wrote:
He definitely can blitz the shit out of some whoops. What was impressive to see at Seattle was how he was blitzing them as fast by...
He definitely can blitz the shit out of some whoops. What was impressive to see at Seattle was how he was blitzing them as fast by the 2nd or 3rd lap of first practice as anyone did all day. I would definitely put him in top 5 all time for being able to hammer whoops at high speed. James Stewart was the fastest all time in whoops in my opinion though. Pastrana was also incredibly fast in whoops.

Agreed, but didn't those two have a habit of throwing it away in them as well? Hard to remember though as both of them were unfortunately on the ground a lot on any part of the track. Man those were good days in Supercross.
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chasetwo79 4/18/2022 3:47pm
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He’s always been super fast in whoops. When he battled with Dylan, he was faster in the whoops but DF was just an animal when it came to corner speed and fitness.

That whoop speed made it hard for DF to pass him which led to DF murdering CC dead in a corner.
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FIREfish148 4/18/2022 4:13pm
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FIREfish148 wrote:
He definitely can blitz the shit out of some whoops. What was impressive to see at Seattle was how he was blitzing them as fast by...
He definitely can blitz the shit out of some whoops. What was impressive to see at Seattle was how he was blitzing them as fast by the 2nd or 3rd lap of first practice as anyone did all day. I would definitely put him in top 5 all time for being able to hammer whoops at high speed. James Stewart was the fastest all time in whoops in my opinion though. Pastrana was also incredibly fast in whoops.

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Agreed, but didn't those two have a habit of throwing it away in them as well? Hard to remember though as both of them were unfortunately...
Agreed, but didn't those two have a habit of throwing it away in them as well? Hard to remember though as both of them were unfortunately on the ground a lot on any part of the track. Man those were good days in Supercross.
The only time I can remember Stewart crashing in the whoops was Anaheim 1 his first race when he ran into the back of Gosselaar and Anaheim 2 when he swapped in 2014 trying to pass Roczen for the lead.

I don’t have any memories of TP crashing in the whoops ever though. As long as we’re talking about fast guys through the whoops I have to throw the other TP Travis Preston in there.
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Sully 4/18/2022 5:05pm
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Magoofan wrote:
Clearly his whoop speeds are due to his family connections.... (sarcasm) I think I remember him crashing hard in one of the last two seasons through...
Clearly his whoop speeds are due to his family connections....

(sarcasm)

I think I remember him crashing hard in one of the last two seasons through the whoops.


But yeah...2022, he is the king.
The last time I remember him going down hard in the whoops was 3 or 4 seasons ago, and it was because someone (AMart, maybe?) chopped his front wheel. Other than that, I can't recall him crashing hard in them on his own.
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devindavisphoto 4/18/2022 8:59pm
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When I was shooting on the floor at SX I was in awe watching Christian hit a fresh set of whoops in practice, just unreal speed compared to everyone else. This was around 2016.
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jasonward73 4/19/2022 6:07am
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Nobody destroyed whoops more than James Stewart. End of story.

Pastrana is a close second. His speed through the whoops of death at Daytona that one year was mind blowing. Stewart wasn't there but if he was he would probably be the only person to give Pastrami a run through them.

Honorable mentions to Craig, Milsaps, Reed
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nrosso391 4/19/2022 6:36am
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I wanna see a replica set of whoops from 2000 Anaheim 2 and watch these guys go thru them!

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nrosso391 4/19/2022 7:38am
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jasonward73 wrote:
Nobody destroyed whoops more than James Stewart. End of story. Pastrana is a close second. His speed through the whoops of death at Daytona that one...
Nobody destroyed whoops more than James Stewart. End of story.

Pastrana is a close second. His speed through the whoops of death at Daytona that one year was mind blowing. Stewart wasn't there but if he was he would probably be the only person to give Pastrami a run through them.

Honorable mentions to Craig, Milsaps, Reed
You mean 2006 Daytona right? Those whoops were enormous. And Stewart WAS there...He endo'ed off the ski jump by pit road and launched over the berm to hit the camera guy.
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jasonward73 4/19/2022 7:49am
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jasonward73 wrote:
Nobody destroyed whoops more than James Stewart. End of story. Pastrana is a close second. His speed through the whoops of death at Daytona that one...
Nobody destroyed whoops more than James Stewart. End of story.

Pastrana is a close second. His speed through the whoops of death at Daytona that one year was mind blowing. Stewart wasn't there but if he was he would probably be the only person to give Pastrami a run through them.

Honorable mentions to Craig, Milsaps, Reed
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You mean 2006 Daytona right? Those whoops were enormous. And Stewart WAS there...He endo'ed off the ski jump by pit road and launched over the berm...
You mean 2006 Daytona right? Those whoops were enormous. And Stewart WAS there...He endo'ed off the ski jump by pit road and launched over the berm to hit the camera guy.
Oh shit, I thought that was different years but I think you're right.

Either way, Pastrana was bonkers in those huge ass whoops.
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Raikzz 4/19/2022 1:01pm
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JS7 was fastest through whoops ever by huge margin, when somebody is making RC and Reed look "slow" in the whoops then it's end of story, close thread
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ShipLap 4/19/2022 1:43pm
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Ezra Lusk was quite speedy through the whoops.
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ShipLap 4/19/2022 1:45pm
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Carmichael at Anaheim 3 in 2001 was a mixture of Bob Hannah, Pastrana and Guy Cooper going through the whoops. Unreal.

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