Counted many riders almost endo off the dragons back..

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2/22/2020 8:55 PM

Numerous riders almost ate shit off that dragons back, mookie had a massive panic rev moment. Webb had done it the race before and many more riders. Seemed like the distance was kind of long for a dragons back didn’t it?

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2/22/2020 8:59 PM

And no I’m not saying “take dragon backs out” I think they’re an awesome part of the racing. But I think something should have been done after adam ate shit and other riders with near misses.

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2/22/2020 9:00 PM

I think it was how low the last whoop was. When they showed it in track walk I was just thinking how easy it would be to miss that last one with your front wheel.

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2/22/2020 9:04 PM

Instead of a gap between the last whoop in the dragons back and the next jump, they should have just made it a table top. Less challenging but safer. Everyone had to launch the dragons back to stay on pace. Minor error was season ending injury.

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2/22/2020 9:06 PM

If there is no hard, technical stuff on the track, there wouldn't be any passes... If a rider isn't comfortable, they can always skim the first few. And there will always be places where a rider can go down, just part of the sport

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2/22/2020 9:08 PM

fpandjic wrote:

If there is no hard, technical stuff on the track, there wouldn't be any passes... If a rider isn't comfortable, they can always skim the first few. And there will always be places where a rider can go down, just part of the sport

Or just make it safe? Lol idk man lost 2 championship contenders in one night. Like I said tons of riders had near misses. Top whoop was kicking the shit out of them

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2/22/2020 9:14 PM

The big triple right after the dragons back setup seemed to be the biggest problem.

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2/22/2020 9:35 PM

Slow down if your talent exceeds your ability. Or risk injury for reward.

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Bravery is the capacity to perform properly even when scared half to death.
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2/22/2020 9:42 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/22/2020 9:45 PM

It's just not a competitive obstacle where you can lose or make up time. Too dangerous for what it adds to the racing. IMO. James Marshall might agree with me...

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2/22/2020 9:52 PM

One obstacle, two potential race winners. I think this is the turning point in the season where the 250 class becomes the class to watch again.

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2/22/2020 10:54 PM

Last whoop was too low.

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2/22/2020 11:09 PM

Just a tough section. If you don’t feel you can do it, don’t. Just lose a little time but you come out in one piece.

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2/23/2020 12:50 AM

biscuit11 wrote:

The big triple right after the dragons back setup seemed to be the biggest problem.

The triple was neither big nor a factor in Webbs crash. AC hit the face, would have been the same result if it were a single or any other obstacle.

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2/23/2020 1:32 AM

If you are going to roll out the dragons back, don't put a bunch of peaked jumps after it. Hope they never do that again. Can't believe we lost 2 top riders.

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2/23/2020 1:46 AM
Edited Date/Time: 2/23/2020 1:48 AM

The landing of the dragons back was too sharp (and/or too far). When the rear wheel was catching the edge it was catapulting the rider into an OTB. I like when it is technical but here i think that at that speed it was a bit of a lotery.

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2/23/2020 2:11 AM

I'm all in for the removal of dragonback sections in Supercross. I'm not sure how the riders feel about them, but I'd imagine a huge percentage of them would say they're sketchy and unnecessary. Unless it's in a slow section replacing a wall jump, I think they should be removed from layouts, especially before a SX triple. Adam, Cooper, and Decotis all crashed on the dragonback tonight and I'm sure there were others in qualifying.

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2/23/2020 5:32 AM
Edited Date/Time: 2/23/2020 5:56 AM

We were sitting right at the dragons back and several guys, Webb, Mookie, etc were hitting that so damn fast and leaving on the second to last lip we were holding our breath every time. Robin had the coolest entry with lifting his front wheel then clearing the landing. Almost every 250 guy was nosing into the landing and full panic rev.

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2/23/2020 5:52 AM

Bramlett321 wrote:

We were sitting right at the dragons back and several guys, Webb, Mookie, etc were hitting that so damn fast and leaving on the second to last lip we were holding our breath every time. Robin had the coolest entry with lifting his front wheel then clearing the landing. Almost every 250 guy was nosing into the landing and full panic rev.

So there I ask again, why?? I mean it’s not like it was a section where riders were making up time.. seems they could have tamed it down a tad and made it safer.

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2/23/2020 5:56 AM

Once again it was a colossal safety/design fuck up by the people in charge of running the sport.

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2/23/2020 6:41 AM

biscuit11 wrote:

The big triple right after the dragons back setup seemed to be the biggest problem.

They were going faster over the dragon than the triple so momentum wasn't an issue. I think it's because there were 5 whoops on it instead of the normal 3-4. Just like the whoops. There were 15 and guys tended to crash at about whoop 10 when they're normally ending.

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2/23/2020 7:01 AM

Good to know we have a bunch of expert track builders in here. Fuck you guys complain about anything. It’s incredible

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2/23/2020 7:02 AM

logan_140 wrote:

So there I ask again, why?? I mean it’s not like it was a section where riders were making up time.. seems they could have tamed it down a tad and made it safer.

Because it’s a fucking motocross race.

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2/23/2020 7:13 AM

When the track is easy everyone complains that there’s no passing and that it’s “startercross”. When there’s hard stuff everyone complains that it’s a circus and death trap.

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2/23/2020 10:01 AM

xrmark wrote:

Good to know we have a bunch of expert track builders in here. Fuck you guys complain about anything. It’s incredible

Do you want good racing or poorly thought out tracks that result in injuries thus taking out stars of the sport which ultimately drops ticket sales if riders are dropping like flies? You're the biggest dipshit in here if you aren't looking out for the riders safety. These guys have families to support and we don't need bullshit track designs taking away their paycheck. These guys are the best athletes in the world and they're going to ride anything you put in front of them at the fastest level of their abilities, but to an extent dirt wurx just needs to think these sections through a bit better and stop putting these guys at risk more than they already are.

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2/23/2020 10:32 AM

Philly215 wrote:

When the track is easy everyone complains that there’s no passing and that it’s “startercross”. When there’s hard stuff everyone complains that it’s a circus and death trap.

Spot on, and just goes to show how little many of the loudest guys here know about racing. Passes made possible by difficult or dangerous obstacles are rarely as good as passes made possible by a well executed block, scrub, cut under, or combination of the three.

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2/23/2020 10:51 AM

That obstacle combo was wrong from the start and it was obvious.

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2/23/2020 11:03 AM

I like challenging obstacles that only 1-5 can do, but, make it so not making it results in a 1 second problem, not a trip to hospital, and missing the rest of the races.

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2/23/2020 11:34 AM

xrmark wrote:

Good to know we have a bunch of expert track builders in here. Fuck you guys complain about anything. It’s incredible

devindavisphoto wrote:

Do you want good racing or poorly thought out tracks that result in injuries thus taking out stars of the sport which ultimately drops ticket sales if riders are dropping like flies? You're the biggest dipshit in here if you aren't looking out for the riders safety. These guys have families to support and we don't need bullshit track designs taking away their paycheck. These guys are the best athletes in the world and they're going to ride anything you put in front of them at the fastest level of their abilities, but to an extent dirt wurx just needs to think these sections through a bit better and stop putting these guys at risk more than they already are.

Guess we should take out the whoops , rhythm sections, fast straights, oh and let’s not forget the finish line double and triples ... cause we don’t want to put them at risk more then they already are since they ride a motorcycle professionally . Just think about it you could put tables everywhere and people will still crash and get injured

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2/23/2020 12:42 PM

slipdog wrote:

Once again it was a colossal safety/design fuck up by the people in charge of running the sport.

Most riders were able to do the dragons back without issue all day. I’m not saying things can’t be made safer because I’m sure they can but Supercross is tough and shit happens. Hell AC himself said it was his fault.

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2/23/2020 12:56 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/23/2020 3:18 PM

Guessing no one took the time to watch the post race press conference and listen to what, Kenny, Tomac and Anderson had to say about it.

No passes were being made over it, it was not a separater on the track, just an obstacle that took out two of the best in the series.

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