Could really use some advice. Buddy suffer's from carpatunnel / hands fall asleep.

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11/4/2018 2:48 PM

One of my best bud's ( Wardy ) has had an issue these past few years , with his hands going numb and falling asleep while he's riding. It doesn't happen every time , but maybe 50% of the time , and it bugs him pretty bad.

I believe he runs just the stock setup on his bars , on a 14' Kawi 450 and a 16' KTM 150SX. Is there certain bar / grips / triple clamps....anything , that may help this? He reads quite a bit here , but for the life of me , I can't get him to sign up. So I thought I'd ask for him. It's ruined some of his ride day's , and I'm just seeing if maybe you guys can help.

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11/4/2018 2:52 PM

Fasst Co. Flexx bars helped me with numbness and wrist pain...they work...I know guys with healthy wrists may not get the benefits given the weight/complexity, but they're a must for me...

Good luck to your buddy!

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11/4/2018 3:27 PM

Natester551v wrote:

Fasst Co. Flexx bars helped me with numbness and wrist pain...they work...I know guys with healthy wrists may not get the ...more

Thanks man. I'm going to try and convince him to invest a little money into it , to at least experiment with it.

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11/4/2018 4:19 PM

Best to see his doctor first and foremost.
Circulation could be a major issue.

According to one of Dan Villopoto's great friends, Dan had told him he was having trouble with his hand falling asleep just a week ago while riding. Dan had been suffering from as much as 95% blockage in his arteries before his fatal fall.

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11/4/2018 4:31 PM

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11/4/2018 4:33 PM

The above images of exercises work for many.

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11/4/2018 4:38 PM

Tumblin wrote:

Best to see his doctor first and foremost.
Circulation could be a major issue.

According to one of Dan Villopoto's great ...more

I don't think in this instance it's circulation. In his job , he lift big batteries and so forth ( he's a low voltage installer ) and his hands and wrists give him issues there too. It doesn't just happen when his heart rate is up. And if my memory is correct , he did see a doctor and they basically said it was carpi-tunnel that was bugging him.

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11/4/2018 4:38 PM

swtwtwtw wrote:

The above images of exercises work for many.

Thank you!!

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Pimpin' Ho's , Rollin' fatty's......drinkin' beers , beers , beers!! ~ Ja

11/4/2018 4:39 PM

Is it confirmed carpal tunnel? I had the same issue a while ago. I thought it was carpal tunnel. I saw a neurologist and determined it was a pinched nerve. Definitely a bummer though. Best of luck to your friend.

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11/4/2018 4:52 PM

If it is carpal tunnel get the surgery to fix it. I just had both hands done and no more numbness.

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11/4/2018 4:58 PM

rollin64caddy wrote:

Is it confirmed carpal tunnel? I had the same issue a while ago. I thought it was carpal tunnel. I saw a neurologist and ...more

Well , from what I understand it is? I have been getting on him for the past 3 years , to get into a doctor and get it fixed , but he's in a place where I don't think he can justify the time off for the surgery. I'll have to dig deeper into it with him. I was just trying to find a remedy to " possibly " help him until he does.

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Pimpin' Ho's , Rollin' fatty's......drinkin' beers , beers , beers!! ~ Ja

11/4/2018 5:00 PM

I pinched a nerve. Started with thumb going numb, progressed over a three week span to a headache and locked up neck. After no sleep for three days, wife forced me to go to the er( I was loud enough from across the house she couldn't sleep either). It was one of the weirdest and most intense pain I have ever experienced. ER shot me with cortisone, said probably carpal tunnel. Dr leaves room, nurse tells me look dude don't tell them I told u this, I think u got a pinched nerve go to a chiropractor. Within the first visit and one adjustment the pain stopped. Saw him 3 more times. Thumb isn't numb finally, after 6 months. I lost strength in the whole arm as well, but it's come back . Caused me to get whiskey throttle for the first time since I was a kid . Was like, a 1 second time delay between when I'd let off and when my hand would actually do it. Made for a few hairy wheelies I'll tell u what. I'd say that massage and a really good chiropractor might just surprise him. Same major nerve that causes carpal tunnel issues pass through the upper shoulder, and lower neck. I'll tell u I hope I never feel that pain again

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when in doubt, pin it out

11/4/2018 5:02 PM

rollin64caddy wrote:

Is it confirmed carpal tunnel? I had the same issue a while ago. I thought it was carpal tunnel. I saw a neurologist and ...more

This

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when in doubt, pin it out

11/4/2018 5:55 PM

mxvet wrote:

If it is carpal tunnel get the surgery to fix it. I just had both hands done and no more numbness.

X2. I had a guy do a non invasive procedure. Just a local. Easy peazy

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11/4/2018 8:17 PM

I bought a ProTaper Contour bar with the CR high Bend and my hands went to sleep. Had a buddy ride the bike and he said “throw them away”. I went with a Renthal mid bend.....no problems since.

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11/4/2018 8:25 PM

mxvet wrote:

If it is carpal tunnel get the surgery to fix it. I just had both hands done and no more numbness.

resetjet wrote:

X2. I had a guy do a non invasive procedure. Just a local. Easy peazy

there is no non invasive surgery so what exactly did they do?

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11/4/2018 8:29 PM

mxvet wrote:

If it is carpal tunnel get the surgery to fix it. I just had both hands done and no more numbness.

resetjet wrote:

X2. I had a guy do a non invasive procedure. Just a local. Easy peazy

barnett468 wrote:

there is no non invasive surgery so what exactly did they do?

Basically just a 1/4” incision in the wrist and scoped rather than a huge cut down the whole forearm

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11/4/2018 8:31 PM

Had carpal tunnel surgery on both my hands, wish I had it done years before, no more numbness. Don’t get them done at same time though, wait at least 4 weeks between each.

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11/4/2018 9:48 PM

My right hand completely falls asleep after about two laps, so the rest of my moto is a lot less fun than the beginning. I’ll be following this.

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11/5/2018 4:28 AM

Median nerve stretches 2x a day and improvement on technique will cure numb hands

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11/5/2018 7:00 AM

Your friend sounds exactly like me 2 1/2 years ago. Im an electrician. I lift heavy objects, and im constantly using my hands twisting and turning and grabbing and pulling. Basically doing everything at a constant pace to induce premature arthritis and carpal tunnel syndrome. My hands and arms would go completely numb and sometimes take hours to regain the feeling. It would especially happen at night when I was trying to sleep. It was awful. It was painful. I finally had enough.

Luckily my wife is a registered nurse with lots of doctor friends. Next thing I know Im being referred to a neurologist to have whats called a nerve conduction study performed. Warning, its not fun. They insert a punch of needles in your arms and hands and pass electrical current through them and measure the speed in which your nerves react.

I was diagnosed with medium carpal tunnel syndrome at 31 years old. Both arms. Both hands. I was given a couple of options including surgery. They wanted to perform a CT scan on my neck and spine because they felt I may have bulging discs and may need to have disc surgery. As soon as they said surgery I bounced. I know better than to get surgery unless its absolutely necessary.

So I did some research, made some phone calls, asked around and found that the blocking of the nerves was occurring in my neck. No doubt there. I was also experiencing an incredibly great deal of pain and discomfort in my neck, upper back, and lower back. Something was wrong. Seriously wrong.

I had been going to different massage places looking for relief with no luck. Then I finally found a lady who specializes in serious deep tissue massage. After my first session without me telling her anything other than where I had pain, she asked me if I had issues with my limbs going numb. VOILA!!!! holy shit! I told her everything. 4-6 sessions in a month later and my carpal tunnel was basically gone. no more numb. no more pain. no more arm pump. no more back pain.

Basically what was explained to me is we dont stretch enough. We dont do any kind of maintenance on our muscles. The muscle tissue becomes so constricted and knotted up the muscle fibers literally twist and pull the nerves and block the signals being sent because muscle tissue is so dense it basically kinks your nerves. It all happens up in your neck and upper back, especially under the shoulder blades. My lower back pain was because my glutes and hamstrings were so tight and knotted up it was literally pulling my lower back muscles down and causing them to be way too tight. She also spent hours on my arms and wrists. Best of all? NO SURGERY!

Find a good masseuse and/or physical therapist. After going through what I went through I found more and more people like me who had similar stories. Sorry for the novel.

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11/5/2018 8:15 AM

Yep. The neck is the key lol

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11/5/2018 8:49 AM
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As someone who did alot of observation / shadowing work for Pre OT I'd tell him to definately consider giving OT / PT a go to help mitigate the effects of his carpal tunnel. It's not some B.S. medical science, it definately works. Have seen alot of great results with patients suffering similar ailments from trigger finger, carpal tunnel, arthritis, nerve impingement, etc. Just my 2 cents.

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11/5/2018 10:09 AM

I was having issues with this. I thought it was carpel tunnel however my issues were linked Vitamin B12 deficiency. I started taking injections and things cleared up pretty well.

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11/5/2018 10:33 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/5/2018 10:36 AM

rollin64caddy wrote:

Is it confirmed carpal tunnel? I had the same issue a while ago. I thought it was carpal tunnel. I saw a neurologist and ...more

jeffro503 wrote:

Well , from what I understand it is? I have been getting on him for the past 3 years , to get into a doctor and get it fixed , ...more

Jeffro, I tried every remedy in the book before giving up and having the surgery. The surgery is the way to go and as for time off work, it's not that big of deal. I don't remember the exact recovery time but it wasn't more than a week for me.

That was for double surgery, I had it in both wrists. I went from not being able to ride or even drive my car for more than 5 minutes without my hands going totally numb and burning like hell before the surgery to no numbness to speak of after.

I will say this, though. It's been 5-6 years since the surgery and it's begun to feel like I may be having the same issue come back. Just recently my hands have started going numb again.

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11/5/2018 12:35 PM

barnett468 wrote:

there is no non invasive surgery so what exactly did they do?

Yes there is. I had both hands done. First one by a regular surgeon. They cut a 1 1/2” incision in the bottom of your palm and cut the ligament with a scalpal. I was 8 weeks off the bike(i rode after 6). Lightly. Second hand by dr jurbala. http://www.highlandortho.com/
He makes a less the. 1/4” incision and inserts a tool that he designed that is like a hook with a scalpal in the curve. He then using an ultrasound guides the device up to top of ligament and the. Pulls it down to cut. I got a local and a butterfly bandaid. No scar, no stitch and back on bike in two weeks. People fly in from all over do to the short recovery time. He has also trained other drs to do it so maybe they can refer someone in your area. You can also do both hands and still be able to wipe your ass, take a shower etc. what is important is that you dont wait. If you do you can do irreparable damage to the median nerve and surgery won’t fix it.

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11/5/2018 12:51 PM

There is a definitive test for Carpal Tunnel, the Hand Specialist can test you. They stick you with needles and shoot current through your arms to you fingers, based on the numbers you have it or you dont. If you have it, there is no real fix for most people other than the surgery. Its really easy and not too painful. Tiny scar and riding after 4-6 weeks. Sleeping better and no issues at work or while driving.

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11/5/2018 1:18 PM

Look into the Mako 360 bar mount. lots of off-road guys around here have started using these in the past year or so and they really help with getting rid of the sleepy hands. They move in all directions unlike the Flex-Bars and have different elastomers to tune them to your liking.

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11/5/2018 2:48 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/5/2018 3:11 PM

Drink Apple Cider Vinegar to clear up any potential circulation issues as a daily habit. Take a baby aspirin too.
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If it is nerves, try hanging from a pull up bar and raising 1 knee at a time repeatedly, you will usually hear plenty of popping in your back and hips, it's cheaper and easier (and often more effective) than a chiropractor.

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If it's overuse and tendon sheath damage, you'll need a Dr. or as the link above, ligament flossing may help.

I had a friend who had the same problem, and his manhood was also turning orange? It turned out OK, he just had to stop eating Cheetos while watching pornlaughing .

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11/5/2018 2:54 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/5/2018 3:32 PM

Here's a few bolt on parts that could help too, not to mention properly working forks and a fatty front tire.

Unfortunately, the bar maker Twisted Engineering may be belly up?

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BRP rubber mount bar mounts with or without the stabilizer (which will help loosen your grip)

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These are now under the name Flexgrip. These require running a throttle grip on both sides (so 2 sets of grips to make one)

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