Cooper Webb rips MX Sports on Twitter

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I like Webb and many people do because it says what's on his mind. Good for him for speaking up as he has a right to and is not owned by them.

The funny thing I noticed was how DC made it out that web was insulting all of the track owners also. I did not see anything about Webb insulting them! He only insulted MX Sports.

It is a free America the last time I checked and people can say what they want! Hope he takes the last gate pick and wins as it would make for good racing!
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peelout wrote:
TLDR

140 characters or less, bro.

try again
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WTF are you saying?
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man, you guys are slacking today. [img]https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/992/407/776.jpg[/img]
man, you guys are slacking today.



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This incredibly talented kid should not bite the hand that is feeding him millions for riding his dirt bike
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I missed the part where he bitched about Yamaha?!
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If it wasn't for the US National series and the SX series Yamaha wouldn't be paying him a dime. The riders should be grateful for where...
If it wasn't for the US National series and the SX series Yamaha wouldn't be paying him a dime. The riders should be grateful for where these promoters have gotten them. I wish we could transport spoiled kids like Webb back to the 70's and stick him in a van with a mechanic and 5 figure salaries.
The 70s with 3k for a new car , a house for 20k , and still had most of our civil rights? Can I go too?
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After watching the GPs when RV was racing them there is no way anyone can convince me the GPs are better run or more professional then the Nationals. Some of those GP tracks were pretty cool but some of those tracks were just 3rd world embarrassing. Blush

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He commented on the 1st moto podium at MC that he saw a bunch of tractors out there after 450s and that they ruined it. I...
He commented on the 1st moto podium at MC that he saw a bunch of tractors out there after 450s and that they ruined it.

I agree,the lap times dropped like 6 seconds.

A lot of guys in the back 20 have trouble with long rutts . Maybe they complain,or maybe they want the bikes looking fast ,i dunno.

If it was up to me I'd work the start and domnhill so everyone can clear the start,the rest should go to hell and be left alone.

The few highspeed jumps could be fixed for safety to i guess.
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It's good to hear a top rider complain when they excessively groom !!!! Although High Point was excellent and many riders commented as to how it...
It's good to hear a top rider complain when they excessively groom !!!! Although High Point was excellent and many riders commented as to how it was "A Man's Track ". Here they are ruining cool sections at Budds Creek and Unadilla !!!!!







"ruining", otherwise known as making it safe for the first lap with 40 bikes close together come by in short order. Ya know, however your ignorant ass chooses to look at it.
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Webb stated what his accusation is: "they aren't putting anything back into the sport, for years now and are getting rich from it"

Now is this the truth or a stretch?
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"I later found out that Webb had just been informed that if he missed another press conference after the race— something most professional series require after events for the top finishers—he might go to the starting gate last for the first moto at the next round."

So is this a rule? According to what DC said his team didn't seem to mind him missing this press conference or others. So is it in the rule book that the top rider's must attend? is there anything in the entry that states riders must attend the press conference? Or is the press conference just a "chance to do the courteous and professional thing" and MX Sports was just strong arming Cooper?

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peelout wrote:
TLDR

140 characters or less, bro.

try again
731chopper wrote:
WTF are you saying?
I actually had to Google WTF Peely was saying....man I must be slipping with this all this Twatter speak.
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"I later found out that Webb had just been informed that if he missed another press conference after the race— something most professional series require after...
"I later found out that Webb had just been informed that if he missed another press conference after the race— something most professional series require after events for the top finishers—he might go to the starting gate last for the first moto at the next round."

So is this a rule? According to what DC said his team didn't seem to mind him missing this press conference or others. So is it in the rule book that the top rider's must attend? is there anything in the entry that states riders must attend the press conference? Or is the press conference just a "chance to do the courteous and professional thing" and MX Sports was just strong arming Cooper?

^^^^^^ This...... especially when DC himself stated that most professional series require it.

Seems to me a non-issue, Webb doesn't want to sit around and wanted to go home....big deal.
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Webb stated what his accusation is: "they aren't putting anything back into the sport, for years now and are getting rich from it" Now is this...
Webb stated what his accusation is: "they aren't putting anything back into the sport, for years now and are getting rich from it"

Now is this the truth or a stretch?
I would say a rutted track makes it more safe due to slowing the riders down quite a bit. The first lap is going to be dangerous with or without ruts, you have 40 guys all trying to fit on about a 10-15ft wide track. So personally I think they should keep the ruts (with the exception of a few sections) and let it be.
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MANNERS226 wrote:
From DC @ RacerXonline.com (Racerhead #27) "[Webb] tweeted an image of the Charlotte track and said he was looking forward to “a real series” coming to...
From DC @ RacerXonline.com (Racerhead #27)

"[Webb] tweeted an image of the Charlotte track and said he was looking forward to “a real series” coming to the U.S. and how much more professional MXGP was, and that Lucas Oil Pro Motocross has “fake promoters” that won’t be around much longer.

I’ve known Cooper Webb a long time. He grew up racing the Loretta Lynn’s AMA Amateur National Championship, which was the platform that helped him hone his motocross talents and eventually land his job with Star Racing (and for the next few years with factory Yamaha). I’ve never had a discussion with him about race promotions, so I had no idea he thought I was a fake promoter and that what’s happening on the infield of that Charlotte dirt track is “real motocross” more so than, say, RedBud. Or High Point. Or Unadilla, Spring Creek, Washougal, Hangtown, etc. I always supported Cooper Webb and think he’s a fantastic talent and a charismatic kid who will help bring new fans to this sport, so this caught me off guard.

I later found out that Webb had just been informed that if he missed another press conference after the race—something most professional series require after events for the top finishers—he might go to the starting gate last for the first moto at the next round. You see, Cooper’s team had informed MX Sports that he would be leaving RedBud immediately after his race so he could catch a flight out of Chicago for home, which doesn’t seem like a good enough excuse to pass up the chance to do the courteous and professional thing, which is to attend a post-race press conference and support your sponsors and team (not to mention the media that helps move this whole motocross industry wheel around). Webb doesn’t want to be there and has already missed others, and when he was told he had to be there, he apparently decided that the promoters are fake, this series not real, and so on. (For the record, Lucas Oil Pro Motocross is the series with real prize money earned racing on real motocross tracks, and Cooper’s sponsors pay him real bonuses.)
Cooper Webb got his first overall win of 2016 with a superb ride at Muddy Creek, effectively his home round of the series.

Cooper Webb got his first overall win of 2016 with a superb ride at Muddy Creek, effectively his home round of the series. Cudby

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if Cooper Webb thinks we’re fake—and that the Ritchies, the Dirt Diggers, the Robinsons, the Huffmans, and the Martins aren’t real promoters—so be it. But I’m confused about us not being around much longer; I think we’re all in this for life.

All that said, I look forward to talking to Cooper himself about all this and seeing what he thinks is wrong with the series and its promoters."
class response by DC, thats why him and his family will most likely be around this sport long after most fans have forgotten who Cooper Webb is,
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Pretty simple. Be a professional. If he doesn't want to show up at a post race press conference, then don't podium, problem solved. A good part of the industry also has a job to do, and Cooper relies on these people more than he realizes.
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johnnypotato123 wrote:
I would say a rutted track makes it more safe due to slowing the riders down quite a bit. The first lap is going to be...
I would say a rutted track makes it more safe due to slowing the riders down quite a bit. The first lap is going to be dangerous with or without ruts, you have 40 guys all trying to fit on about a 10-15ft wide track. So personally I think they should keep the ruts (with the exception of a few sections) and let it be.
I would say you are arguing for the sake of arguing, a rutted track will not slow riders down to a safe speed...40 MPH vs 43MPH is not going to matter, and it sounds like you have never ridden in a pack with 40 other guys.


If Webb truly wanted to stick it to the man, he should have bailed on the presser.
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I am sure all of you calling Cooper Webb dumb have never met him or his family. Nothing dumb about the young man. Where are you...
I am sure all of you calling Cooper Webb dumb have never met him or his family. Nothing dumb about the young man. Where are you at in life? Sounds like a pack of old jealous hens sometimes in here.
Don't know anything about his or his family's intelligence. This recent event makes him look a little immature and self-absorbed. Time will solve that, it usually does. He should be thankful that DC and the promoters tend to overlook a lot of childish outbursts.
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mxjon454 7/1/2016 10:34pm
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If webb wants to bitch about the ama nationals and how mx sports run things over here and how the gps are a "better" series then why doesnt he go race over seas. Problem solved. He gets to race the "better" series and wont get any kind of purse money. Im sure he can sign a big dollar deal from a top gp team.
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MANNERS226 wrote:
From DC @ RacerXonline.com (Racerhead #27) "[Webb] tweeted an image of the Charlotte track and said he was looking forward to “a real series” coming to...
From DC @ RacerXonline.com (Racerhead #27)

"[Webb] tweeted an image of the Charlotte track and said he was looking forward to “a real series” coming to the U.S. and how much more professional MXGP was, and that Lucas Oil Pro Motocross has “fake promoters” that won’t be around much longer.

I’ve known Cooper Webb a long time. He grew up racing the Loretta Lynn’s AMA Amateur National Championship, which was the platform that helped him hone his motocross talents and eventually land his job with Star Racing (and for the next few years with factory Yamaha). I’ve never had a discussion with him about race promotions, so I had no idea he thought I was a fake promoter and that what’s happening on the infield of that Charlotte dirt track is “real motocross” more so than, say, RedBud. Or High Point. Or Unadilla, Spring Creek, Washougal, Hangtown, etc. I always supported Cooper Webb and think he’s a fantastic talent and a charismatic kid who will help bring new fans to this sport, so this caught me off guard.

I later found out that Webb had just been informed that if he missed another press conference after the race—something most professional series require after events for the top finishers—he might go to the starting gate last for the first moto at the next round. You see, Cooper’s team had informed MX Sports that he would be leaving RedBud immediately after his race so he could catch a flight out of Chicago for home, which doesn’t seem like a good enough excuse to pass up the chance to do the courteous and professional thing, which is to attend a post-race press conference and support your sponsors and team (not to mention the media that helps move this whole motocross industry wheel around). Webb doesn’t want to be there and has already missed others, and when he was told he had to be there, he apparently decided that the promoters are fake, this series not real, and so on. (For the record, Lucas Oil Pro Motocross is the series with real prize money earned racing on real motocross tracks, and Cooper’s sponsors pay him real bonuses.)
Cooper Webb got his first overall win of 2016 with a superb ride at Muddy Creek, effectively his home round of the series.

Cooper Webb got his first overall win of 2016 with a superb ride at Muddy Creek, effectively his home round of the series. Cudby

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if Cooper Webb thinks we’re fake—and that the Ritchies, the Dirt Diggers, the Robinsons, the Huffmans, and the Martins aren’t real promoters—so be it. But I’m confused about us not being around much longer; I think we’re all in this for life.

All that said, I look forward to talking to Cooper himself about all this and seeing what he thinks is wrong with the series and its promoters."
That message could do without the various stabs towards the MXGP series. Even though they are somewhat true, this doesn't come over as very professional for someone that can read between the lines.

It's very easy for me to see why an outsider like Webb or Reed would see the GP's as more professional or 'better organized' than the Nationals, even though they are not.

Factory riders and teams are treated like princes by Youthstream. They organize cultural trips at all the exotic locations the GPs travel to, have special washing areas, VIP spectator areas, high end pitlane infrastructure, etc...

This is because Luongo sees MXGP as an elitist series which online has room for the best, very much like formula 1.
Except motocross doesn't have nearly the same public interest, sponsors or money that F1 has, which is why the GP's have been experiencing a slow agonizing demise over the last 10 years.

Why is this? One of the main reasons is the inability for a non-factory (supported) rider to compete in the GP's:
-1000 euro entry money per GP
-no payout
-rediculous travel expense for overseas GP's
-Plus you're simply not allowed to line up as a privateer. You either have to be on a team or have to be selected as a 'wild card'.

The Nationals are very much a superior series over the GP's: Any privateer can line up, great tracks, pretty good tv coverage (which is free), good promoters, the list goes on.

The stuff that Reed, Webb and certain others are whining about are very much luxury items reserved for factory riders only, which would only make things more 'professional' for the chosen few.
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731chopper wrote:
WTF are you saying?
peelout wrote:
man, you guys are slacking today. [img]https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/992/407/776.jpg[/img]
man, you guys are slacking today.



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kkawboy14 wrote:
Webb stated what his accusation is: "they aren't putting anything back into the sport, for years now and are getting rich from it" Now is this...
Webb stated what his accusation is: "they aren't putting anything back into the sport, for years now and are getting rich from it"

Now is this the truth or a stretch?
I agree with Webb. Everyone is making money but the riders. The 20th place guy that is a complete badass does not even come close to breaking even for the weekend.

It only takes about 1700 spectators to cover the purse payout for the weekend. IMO the purse should be half of the gate.







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Why should Webb be told he has to go to a press conference by a race organization?

Where the hell are his handlers and advisors to explain to him that this is part of the deal in riding for star and representing his sponsors?

And for those that are acting like his "civil rights" are being violated, give me break.

He is not being arrested.

He is free to speak his mind

That doesn't mean there might not be consequences.

If you go in to work tomorrow and call your boss a worthless piece of shit, the police won't show up and arrest you for saying that.

However security may be called to escort you and your personal items off the property.

Just ask the guys from Slater racing.
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Can someone please post the photo of Dc modeling for GQ at Unadilla? 10? Years ago, in leather...Webb needs to see who he is messing with! How dare he question MX sports & the media! What's next....250 2 strokes against 250f"s? That would be insane...
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Webb comes off as a immature douche bag imo. Not going to the press conference is lame. Do you really think any athlete in the other sports like going to them? It's for the fans, and unlike Webb they see the bigger picture.
The nat's have never been better run since DC took over. I think they have a quality product and are always trying to improve.

And as far as promoters not putting money back into the sport, go talk to the guy who owns the Ironman track here in Indiana about how much money he has invested in the facility. He's a friend of my brother, trust me it's a bunch.

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Web likes to talk out his ass, if He was a GP regular He would find out real quick that Luongo doesn't tolerate riders acting like He does.
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XR75_Flamethrower wrote:
Cooper Webb praising MXGP and ripping on MX Sports last night on Twitter: The comments were so off the wall that Matthes insinuated that Webb's acct...
Cooper Webb praising MXGP and ripping on MX Sports last night on Twitter:

The comments were so off the wall that Matthes insinuated that Webb's acct may have been hacked and Reed said "Oh know he didn't" regarding Webb's initial tweet promoting the upcoming Charlotte MXGP map:

"Looking good, can't wait for a 'real' MX series race to be held in the States"

Did something go down for Webb to say not only that but much more responding to fans on his original tweet, here's an example:

This^^^
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731chopper wrote:
WTF are you saying?
peelout wrote:
man, you guys are slacking today. [img]https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/992/407/776.jpg[/img]
man, you guys are slacking today.



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Holy shit, coffee all over the screen!LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing
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XR75_Flamethrower wrote:
Cooper Webb praising MXGP and ripping on MX Sports last night on Twitter: The comments were so off the wall that Matthes insinuated that Webb's acct...
Cooper Webb praising MXGP and ripping on MX Sports last night on Twitter:

The comments were so off the wall that Matthes insinuated that Webb's acct may have been hacked and Reed said "Oh know he didn't" regarding Webb's initial tweet promoting the upcoming Charlotte MXGP map:

"Looking good, can't wait for a 'real' MX series race to be held in the States"

Did something go down for Webb to say not only that but much more responding to fans on his original tweet, here's an example:

sandspider250 wrote:
This^^^
Anyone remember TFS calling DC the octopus?!Whistling That dude has his hands into everything MX! DC has to be the richest man in MX! Not hating on DC, if you can get it, get it!
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XR75_Flamethrower wrote:
Cooper Webb praising MXGP and ripping on MX Sports last night on Twitter: The comments were so off the wall that Matthes insinuated that Webb's acct...
Cooper Webb praising MXGP and ripping on MX Sports last night on Twitter:

The comments were so off the wall that Matthes insinuated that Webb's acct may have been hacked and Reed said "Oh know he didn't" regarding Webb's initial tweet promoting the upcoming Charlotte MXGP map:

"Looking good, can't wait for a 'real' MX series race to be held in the States"

Did something go down for Webb to say not only that but much more responding to fans on his original tweet, here's an example:

sandspider250 wrote:
This^^^
That is where the term "Morgantown Mafia" came from years ago!


Yup conflict of interest for sure.
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XR75_Flamethrower wrote:
Cooper Webb praising MXGP and ripping on MX Sports last night on Twitter: The comments were so off the wall that Matthes insinuated that Webb's acct...
Cooper Webb praising MXGP and ripping on MX Sports last night on Twitter:

The comments were so off the wall that Matthes insinuated that Webb's acct may have been hacked and Reed said "Oh know he didn't" regarding Webb's initial tweet promoting the upcoming Charlotte MXGP map:

"Looking good, can't wait for a 'real' MX series race to be held in the States"

Did something go down for Webb to say not only that but much more responding to fans on his original tweet, here's an example:

sandspider250 wrote:
This^^^
rcm406 wrote:
Anyone remember TFS calling DC the octopus?!:whistle: That dude has his hands into everything MX! DC has to be the richest man in MX! Not hating...
Anyone remember TFS calling DC the octopus?!Whistling That dude has his hands into everything MX! DC has to be the richest man in MX! Not hating on DC, if you can get it, get it!
Have y'all seen his house and the fancy cars he's got I'd say he does pretty darn good for him self. Too bad they can't put some more money into the purse
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XR75_Flamethrower wrote:
Cooper Webb praising MXGP and ripping on MX Sports last night on Twitter: The comments were so off the wall that Matthes insinuated that Webb's acct...
Cooper Webb praising MXGP and ripping on MX Sports last night on Twitter:

The comments were so off the wall that Matthes insinuated that Webb's acct may have been hacked and Reed said "Oh know he didn't" regarding Webb's initial tweet promoting the upcoming Charlotte MXGP map:

"Looking good, can't wait for a 'real' MX series race to be held in the States"

Did something go down for Webb to say not only that but much more responding to fans on his original tweet, here's an example:

sandspider250 wrote:
This^^^
rcm406 wrote:
Anyone remember TFS calling DC the octopus?!:whistle: That dude has his hands into everything MX! DC has to be the richest man in MX! Not hating...
Anyone remember TFS calling DC the octopus?!Whistling That dude has his hands into everything MX! DC has to be the richest man in MX! Not hating on DC, if you can get it, get it!
I see nothing wrong with someone putting out an enormous amount of effort and being rewarded for his work. DC should live comfortably.

I guess people expect someone who works 80 hour weeks to sell off hard earned assets and give more money to riders floundering around in 20th-40th place. These riders fill the gates but do absolutely nothing for their sponsors or the spectators who are there to see the big names.

Why should the purses be any larger? Where does the money come from? DC needs to sell a car and give everyone a extra dollar a week for the season? In most sports/jobs you make what you earn

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