Cool satellite image of Hondaland from 1995

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3/22/2018 6:45 AM

Google Earth has a cool feature that allows you to go back as far as 1995 to see historical images. I've always wondered about the exact layout of the track. This image makes it a bit more clear. I also found Kenny Zhart's old SX and outdoor track that I used to ride back in 98-99.

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3/22/2018 6:53 AM

MXD wrote:

Google Earth has a cool feature that allows you to go back as far as 1995 to see historical images. I've always wondered about the exact layout of the track. This image makes it a bit more clear. I also found Kenny Zhart's old SX and outdoor track that I used to ride back in 98-99.

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Are you talking about KZ’s tracks in SCV? Rode his sx track a few times when I lived at the top of the hill there. Everything is gone now and they are building more homes...

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3/22/2018 6:56 AM

Palm Ave May 1994
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Palm Ave today
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3/22/2018 6:59 AM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Are you talking about KZ’s tracks in SCV? Rode his sx track a few times when I lived at the top of the hill there. Everything is gone now and they are building more homes...

Yup. Here it is in May of 94 and today.

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3/22/2018 7:02 AM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Are you talking about KZ’s tracks in SCV? Rode his sx track a few times when I lived at the top of the hill there. Everything is gone now and they are building more homes...

Here is a newer pic of the SX track zoomed in a bit. This was from 08

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3/22/2018 7:28 AM

how are you going back in years? can't find that feature.

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3/22/2018 7:33 AM

fullfloater wrote:

how are you going back in years? can't find that feature.

The feature isn't available in the web based version. You need to download google earth pro. Once you open it up, you will see this button (circled below). Click it a slider appears.

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3/22/2018 7:35 AM

Here is another one. El Cajon in Dec 2003 and today.

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3/22/2018 7:54 AM

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3/22/2018 8:01 AM

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3/22/2018 8:12 AM

It's that square on the bottom right corner. The track may have been closed by then but I remember riding my bike there a few times to watch.

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3/22/2018 8:29 AM

Imagine how many riding areas would still be left if previous generations bred responsibly and immigration laws were enforced?

Mo people, mo problems...

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3/22/2018 8:40 AM

Bry145 wrote:

Imagine how many riding areas would still be left if previous generations bred responsibly and immigration laws were enforced?

Mo people, mo problems...

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3/22/2018 8:42 AM

Homey55 wrote:

It's that square on the bottom right corner. The track may have been closed by then but I remember riding my bike there a few times to watch.

Looks like it was gone by then but probably not long before this image was taken.

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3/22/2018 8:47 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/22/2018 8:49 AM

MXD wrote:

Here is another one. El Cajon in Dec 2003 and today.

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That whole deal was a bummer. It wasn't the best track but, it was nice to be able to get some practice in on a week night. In reality, the people at the airport have a lot of money and power. They didn't like either track being there. People leaving trash in the airport parking lots, didn't help either. The "were going to build an FAA center there" was just an excuse.

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3/22/2018 8:51 AM

MXD wrote:

Looks like it was gone by then but probably not long before this image was taken.

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That was it. Yeah, it was gone by then I guess. They had an announcer tower there and everything.

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3/22/2018 9:03 AM

DUDE! MXD you are the man for posting this. It's basically a personal step back in time for me seeing these images

I grew up about 15 minutes from Simi Valley (where Hordaland was). The one and only time I rode back there was in '95 as a young teen with some friends, we got chased out after only about an hour or two.

Rode Zhart's a bunch once I was older and had my license. I just came across a picture of me from there i'll have to dig it up. I went to college in San Diego and rode Palm Ave as well as the old El Cajon MX track a few times a month. Good times!

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3/22/2018 9:44 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/22/2018 9:44 AM

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I was born/raised in Minnesota, but rode Saddleback Park in 78. (Saw my first small Japanese pickup that trip also!) Wonder if Saddleback shows up in 1995. Progress sucks! Except for this google earth thing, this could get addicting, very cool!!




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3/22/2018 9:46 AM

ctbale wrote:

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I was born/raised in Minnesota, but rode Saddleback Park in 78. (Saw my first small Japanese pickup that trip also!) Wonder if Saddleback shows up in 1995. Progress sucks! Except for this google earth thing, this could get addicting, very cool!!




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I'm at lunch at the moment but if you can paste the coordinates I will look it up for you when I get back and post the picture.

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3/22/2018 9:57 AM

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I have no idea even where in So-Cal it was, just some good memories, and several pictures my dad took of me (1976 YZ125) and my younger bother (XR75) racing the California dudes! (got my ass handed to me BTW, lol)

Maybe some locals could dig up those coordinates?


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3/22/2018 10:25 AM

ctbale wrote:

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I was born/raised in Minnesota, but rode Saddleback Park in 78. (Saw my first small Japanese pickup that trip also!) Wonder if Saddleback shows up in 1995. Progress sucks! Except for this google earth thing, this could get addicting, very cool!!




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MXD wrote:

I'm at lunch at the moment but if you can paste the coordinates I will look it up for you when I get back and post the picture.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Irvine,+CA/@33.7762848,-117.7415119,1263m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80dcdd0e689140e3:0xa77ab575604a9a39!8m2!3d33.6845673!4d-117.8265049

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3/22/2018 10:33 AM

ctbale wrote:

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I was born/raised in Minnesota, but rode Saddleback Park in 78. (Saw my first small Japanese pickup that trip also!) Wonder if Saddleback shows up in 1995. Progress sucks! Except for this google earth thing, this could get addicting, very cool!!




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MXD wrote:

I'm at lunch at the moment but if you can paste the coordinates I will look it up for you when I get back and post the picture.

From what I could find, it closed in the late 80's. The oldest pic I could find was 94 and was already gone. I did find a clearer image from 02 that shows some of the layout.

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3/22/2018 10:34 AM

MXD wrote:

Here is another one. El Cajon in Dec 2003 and today.

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I dislocated my shoulder in the upper-left corner of that MX track once, when it was going clockwise.
Ah, the memories!

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3/22/2018 12:46 PM

MXD wrote:

Google Earth has a cool feature that allows you to go back as far as 1995 to see historical images. I've always wondered about the exact layout of the track. This image makes it a bit more clear. I also found Kenny Zhart's old SX and outdoor track that I used to ride back in 98-99.

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What are the exact coordinates for Hondaland?

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3/22/2018 1:02 PM

fullfloater wrote:

how are you going back in years? can't find that feature.

MXD wrote:

The feature isn't available in the web based version. You need to download google earth pro. Once you open it up, you will see this button (circled below). Click it a slider appears.

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You win the internet bro. Give this guy the keys to Vital for a day. Thanks for sharing

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3/22/2018 6:53 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/22/2018 6:54 PM

MXD wrote:

Google Earth has a cool feature that allows you to go back as far as 1995 to see historical images. I've always wondered about the exact layout of the track. This image makes it a bit more clear. I also found Kenny Zhart's old SX and outdoor track that I used to ride back in 98-99.

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mattyhamz2 wrote:

Are you talking about KZ’s tracks in SCV? Rode his sx track a few times when I lived at the top of the hill there. Everything is gone now and they are building more homes...

MXD wrote:

Here is a newer pic of the SX track zoomed in a bit. This was from 08

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10 minutes from my house. RIP Kenny.....

Spent a lot of time in the hills of SCV growing up. Took my kid there to ride the SX track a few times, but he was on an 80 and wasn’t ready yet.

Mike and Jeff Alessi use to drive out to ride Kenny’s tracks, they were so beat down, borderline dangerous !

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3/22/2018 7:02 PM

Was this Hondaland?

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3/22/2018 7:11 PM

devindavisphoto wrote:

Was this Hondaland?

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Yes.

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3/22/2018 7:39 PM

MXD wrote:

I'm at lunch at the moment but if you can paste the coordinates I will look it up for you when I get back and post the picture.

BAMX wrote:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Irvine,+CA/@33.7762848,-117.7415119,1263m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80dcdd0e689140e3:0xa77ab575604a9a39!8m2!3d33.6845673!4d-117.8265049

MXD wrote:

From what I could find, it closed in the late 80's. The oldest pic I could find was 94 and was already gone. I did find a clearer image from 02 that shows some of the layout.

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Thank you for the walk down memory lane. Saddleback closed in 84. I was there the day they didn't open the gates. We were all in line and we kept waiting until Donna Dymond (Micky's sister - who worked the front gate) came out and said the park is closed. We just thought for the day and not forever.

To switch gears a bit, found this on MXA regarding Saddleback as it is today. The place is still alive with moto and mother nature has taken her back. So much for the tree huggers saying that motorcycles will scar the land.
https://motocrossactionmag.com/journey-with-us-to-saddleback-park-as-it-is-today/

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3/22/2018 7:51 PM

Wow this thread really brings home how many riding areas we’ve lost.

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