Considering a new 125

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7/1/2020 6:42 AM

I'm considering getting back into the sport after about a 5 year layoff. I'm looking at getting a 125 (or maybe a 150) since that is what I always most enjoyed and was comfortable on. I really only know Suzukis but those seem rare now and would like to consider something newer as well.

I'd like to find something that turns comparable to the RM125s, I don't like having to fight through corners. Also, I'd like something that overall handles well (for a C rider) and is good quality. Less concerned with price, looks, comparative power or other features.

It looks like either a KTM (or Husky) or else a YZ. Is there any consensus as to which would be better?

Thanks,
~ W

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7/1/2020 6:45 AM

OldTiddler wrote:

I'm considering getting back into the sport after about a 5 year layoff. I'm looking at getting a 125 (or maybe a 150) since that is what I always most enjoyed and was comfortable on. I really only know Suzukis but those seem rare now and would like to consider something newer as well.

I'd like to find something that turns comparable to the RM125s, I don't like having to fight through corners. Also, I'd like something that overall handles well (for a C rider) and is good quality. Less concerned with price, looks, comparative power or other features.

It looks like either a KTM (or Husky) or else a YZ. Is there any consensus as to which would be better?

Thanks,
~ W

If you decide to go with a 150, I’d do a TM. It’s the only one that isn’t an overbored 125.

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7/1/2020 6:49 AM

Yz125, KTM or husky 125. Wouldn’t get a 150 if you’re planning on racing and wouldn’t be able to race 125 specific classes.

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7/1/2020 7:13 AM

TTR125

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Current Rides: 2019 YZ450F & 2015 YZ250
Past Rides: 2018 YZ125, 2007 YZ250, 2005 YZ250F

7/1/2020 7:28 AM
Edited Date/Time: 7/1/2020 7:29 AM

Yz has easy access to parts (same for years and years and years. Some shop will have what you need now.)

Ktms are awesome.


Either one you’re gonna be pumped with.

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7/1/2020 7:39 AM

The KTM/Husq platform is hard to beat.

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7/1/2020 8:43 AM

I would say that the new KTM/Husky has a turning characteristic that is a bit more similar to the RMs. That being said, any 125 is going to be super responsive and a bit skittish and kinda search it's way around. So in saying that, the YZ is still a great choice, as it is a bit more stable, in my opinion. I chose a YZ last year for the following reasons. Less jetting hassle, overall better (well rounded / neutral) handling, powerband and suspension. Also, tons of parts and known reliability. Nothing wrong with the KTM/Huskys at all. The have better peak power and are a bit lighter. I just felt like the YZ was a can't miss bike, for me to keep for a long time.

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7/1/2020 8:47 AM

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7/1/2020 9:07 AM

Rode a friend's KTM 125 and I almost didn't believe him that it was stock. So much power (I mean, it's still slow as shit because its a 125, but it was faster than any CR or YZ I've ridden).

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7/1/2020 9:27 AM

I have an RM125 and have been thinking about getting an updated 125/150. For the used market, there seems to be more 150sx that are lightly used compared to 125sx/tc125 that have been put through the ringer.

I had a YZ250 and I didn’t like how it turned in comparison to my RM125. Different bike, but I think the chassis character carries over from the 125 to the 250 to some extent.


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7/1/2020 10:26 AM

Either spend 2k on a 06 or newer yz, or go for the much more expensive ktm. The 150 has more midrange, but signs off earlier. I like to scream a small bore, so 150's suck IMO. But, a c rider, and off road style riding a 150 is fine.

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7/1/2020 10:28 AM

Buying brand new, top priority is that it handles well and reliability? Less concerned with power etc.? Sounds like a YZ is perfect for you

Good luck trying to buy a new one though lol

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7/1/2020 3:13 PM

Thanks all for your input, much appreciated

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7/1/2020 3:25 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/2/2020 4:46 AM

The Husky and KTM are so trick and modern. The YZ is a workhorse for sure, but to me just looks dated. I have 15 TC125 as a second bike. I also had a 16 SX125. Both bikes are well made and handle well..

My brother sells Kaw/Polaris/TM.

He rides a TM300 4 stroke and likes it. Very trick. They make a nice 125 but they're a bit pricey, even more than a Husky. lol

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7/1/2020 5:36 PM

Indy mxer wrote:

The Husky and KTM are so trick and modern. The YZ is a workhorse for sure, but to me just looks dated. I have 15 TC125 as a second bike. I also had a 16 SX125. Both bikes are well made and handle well..

My brother sells Kaw/Polaris/TM.

He rides a TM300 4 stroke and likes it. Very trick. They make a nice 125 but they're a bit pricey, even more than a Husky. lol

I feel the tms are truly worth the asking price. Look at the components and level of detail, and when compared to a ktm it’s similar once you factor in it having to convert the air forks to spring forks since the tms have Kyb forks stock.

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7/1/2020 5:54 PM

Tm.

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7/1/2020 5:58 PM

Indy mxer wrote:

The Husky and KTM are so trick and modern. The YZ is a workhorse for sure, but to me just looks dated. I have 15 TC125 as a second bike. I also had a 16 SX125. Both bikes are well made and handle well..

My brother sells Kaw/Polaris/TM.

He rides a TM300 4 stroke and likes it. Very trick. They make a nice 125 but they're a bit pricey, even more than a Husky. lol

What he said....

I've had:

01 KX 125
02 RM 125
04 KX 125
05 KX 125
15 TC 125
18 150 XC-W
19 150 SX

Of these, the KTM/Husky's handle great- very similar to the RM and a little sharper than the KX, which are still no slouches. I know the 150 signs off a little faster, but the low end/mid-range totally make up for that, IMHO. OTOH, I had the '05 KX turned into a 144 and it was no big deal... I liked it better as a 125 because it hit harder.

I think pretty much any decent modern-ish 125 is gonna be just loads of fun. Get the suspension dialed for you and you're golden. I race my Husky in the 50+ class and it's just lots of fun.


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2015 Kawasaki KX 250F
2015 GasGas TXT Racing 125
2015 Husqvarna TC 125
2018 KTM 150 XC-W

7/1/2020 6:04 PM

150 SX. Great bike

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7/1/2020 6:20 PM

Don't think to long. We sold a 21 today..been out of 20's.

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7/1/2020 6:25 PM

Bought the boy a new YZ about a month ago, very impressed

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7/1/2020 8:02 PM

I have had RM125 and 250 and now ride TC125 and 250 find they corner very well just the WP forks need looking at.
My son has a TM125 that thing is plain awesome handles very well and is stable in the air never seems to be front end high or nose diving on a kicker. As mentioned about the TM is the only one that has its own motor for a 150 heard great things about it too.

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7/1/2020 10:34 PM

zehn wrote:

Buying brand new, top priority is that it handles well and reliability? Less concerned with power etc.? Sounds like a YZ is perfect for you

Good luck trying to buy a new one though lol

As a yamaha guy who's made the mistake of riding a Husky 125, I wouldn't even waste my time on a YZ at this point.

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7/1/2020 11:58 PM

Deja New wrote:

I have had RM125 and 250 and now ride TC125 and 250 find they corner very well just the WP forks need looking at.
My son has a TM125 that thing is plain awesome handles very well and is stable in the air never seems to be front end high or nose diving on a kicker. As mentioned about the TM is the only one that has its own motor for a 150 heard great things about it too.

Good points. KTM made a purpose built 150 (144cc) up until 2015, then in 2016 it was just a 125 with a bigger piston and bored out cylinder.

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7/2/2020 12:41 AM
Edited Date/Time: 7/2/2020 12:43 AM

SX/TC125.

Yeah the YZ is solid but the new 125 from Austria beats it with a large margin. I know some try to argue about this but i can't understand how anyone would pick the YZ if they get to ride these 3 bikes back to back. The YZ is great if you're on a budget and buy one used.

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7/2/2020 2:08 AM

Motofinne wrote:

SX/TC125.

Yeah the YZ is solid but the new 125 from Austria beats it with a large margin. I know some try to argue about this but i can't understand how anyone would pick the YZ if they get to ride these 3 bikes back to back. The YZ is great if you're on a budget and buy one used.

this, if you want the best 125 buy the KTM/TC, the YZ is a good package, but it aint as fast as the austrian,

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7/2/2020 4:34 AM

Motofinne wrote:

SX/TC125.

Yeah the YZ is solid but the new 125 from Austria beats it with a large margin. I know some try to argue about this but i can't understand how anyone would pick the YZ if they get to ride these 3 bikes back to back. The YZ is great if you're on a budget and buy one used.

I have a Husky (350) and I realize how good they are but I prefer the YZ. Just like I prefer the YZ250 over the TC250 (friends have both and have ridden them back to back.) It's all preference. The YZ125 is still very fast and easy to ride. Add a pipe and Rad valve and it wakes them up. Plus the suspension is much better, in my opinion. I have grown to hate the AER/Xact fork on my Husky and that suspension in general. Also the jetting is no-hassle, where it seems like there is a lot more pissing around on the KTM/Hus 2 strokes. Like I said, on paper the KTM/Husky are better bikes, but I still think there are plenty of people who prefer the Yamahas, as I am 1 of them. Did I like spending 7 grand on almost the same bike that I bought twice before, since 06? Of course not. But once I rode it, I felt like made the right choice and would do it again.

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