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I have seen bike disqualifies at LL's for small things like... Brake rotor covers, removed air filter screens and other items as well. So they do watch his closely.
Paw Paw
http://mxdose.com/mxdose/jerry-robin-qualifies-to-loretta-lynns-on-his-…
So let's say you think Mike Alessi is cheating with a big bore cylinder on his 85 and protest that. But they find the cylinder is ported in the stock class but the bore is stock dimensions, you lose your money and Mikey keeps his trophy. Sorry, Mike. I just figured he was probably the most protested kid in LL history.
If you're a top guy, you just find really sneaky ways to cheat. I know many folks who rode big bore 250s in the stock or mod classes that were illegal but they were not top 10 contenders so they never worried about tear down.
Even the age class guys cheat. I know of folks signing up in age classes older than what they were and I know of folks who raced A classes locally (maybe nationally) and later competed in the B/C age classes.
Then there is the age old C class problems. Guys who have qualified for C in the past will sign up for qualifiers. Guys who have raced B and sometimes even A locally will sign up for C class qualifiers - because our local C class is really slow but nationally it isn't fair for Johnny to race B class. I used to get very suspicious about this when I raced every weekend and would help others try to get to LL. It was really weird back in 2003-2006 time frame, every year about two weeks before the national the results page from MXSports' website would vanish. So you couldn't go through the list of previous qualifiers and compare to the entry list. I've seen guys get moved up to A because they scored too many B points even though they never made a top 10 at the national. Then I've seen guys who won their qualifiers and regionals by 25 seconds in C class get a pass when others KNEW they raced B locally and called to protest.
There are many ways to cheat and lots of people do it. But the only way to know if the kid in the photo was would be a tear down. And even then, they are hard to win. Anybody know if it happened or not?
The Shop
I just don’t understand cheating in sports. How can you be proud of a win if you cheat to get it? A previous post said that guys who knew they aren’t top 10 so have no fear of a tear down running big bore kits?? They cheat to finish 15? Wtf? That’s a proud moment? Finishing 15th with a cheater motor? I’d be embarrassed...
So much that they changed the rule to 112 instead of 105....it happens.
All about gettin an edge. Ben Lamay used to stock suspension components in a “innovative” way to give himself an advantage one year....deemed to be legal.....think
It was something like flipping the shim stack upside down. Or the valve upside down....something wierd. Kawasaki protested. so yea people are doing things to give them an edge.
But I’d sure feel like a complete asshole If I knowingly was cheating my pw50 child out of a championship because someone would tear the bike down. Have fun explaining that: “sorry son, you won but we cheated to win, so now your title is stripped”
I was really fuzzy and should not have been ridding, long story short I lined up and pulled the sickest holeshot I even pulled on my CR250R - I had the 2nd place bike by 7-8 lengths... turns out I went out in the wrong moto and smoked the 80cc class..
I really should not have been on the track :/
It's all good, no serious damage done
Pit Row
I'm sure there's some cheating taking place somewhere, but no idea to what degree. I didn't hear any chatter of protest or suspected cheating out there this year. I honestly don't think it happens as much as it used to.
2. The kid who got the jump in the video absolutely got the holeshot.
When the C class has athletes capable of laying the sickest flat scrubs you can’t help but scratch your head.
That said... we’ve been torn down a bunch of times and had my sons age protested a few times as well. My kid has always been tall for his age and he has a Feb BDay so... the one year he had to run a tall seat in the 65 7-9 class at LL. He was taller than most of the 7-11 yo kids too. We’ve always played the game with “national limited motors” and always carried a birth certificate so... we’re all clear here. He’s on 125s now and regularly holeshots 250Fs and 250 2-Strokes so I’m still hearing tear down rumers from time to time. He’s just a dang good starter on a stock TM motor with a bolt on head and an HP Performance ignition. The bike rips in basic stock trim!
I love underdog stories, and they dont get much better than 125s against 250s.........
2) The kid had way better technique to get over the gate, he like paddled like he was on a stryder bike
3) hard to see his number but i assume its Brayton Kreglow, hes a local where i am, i see and talk to him and his dad at the track all the time putting in the work to succeed. Im not surprised in the slightest he went 1-1-1 on a brand new PW they purchased just for LL.
It's a shit-show of cheaters all trying to out cheat each other. Its sad. I wish I had the funds to start a real grass roots TRUE amateur race series. No trainers. No mechanics. No homeschool. Just Parents with Kids out for some family fun and wholesome competition.
It’s one thing making the other 5 year olds look like squids....but when you can do it against the best in the World it’s really badass
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