Carlsbad USGP a look back from 1977-82 (Fixed)

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Edited Date/Time 6/24/2016 4:40pm
Could you guys imagine the riders of today bitching about having to ride Carlsbad?


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Very cool, fun to watch.....brings back lots of memories....

My parents and I went to watch a few USGPs during our vacation from AZ during 1977-83 and hadn't been back since, so my wife and I took our kids to Lego Land last year and stopped by the track (kinda hard to find going by memory) here are a few pictures...









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Wow- that was a very well produced video clip, great memories from 1982 that I attended as well as great highlights from years prior that I missed.

The "today" pictures are interesting as well, legendary tracks like Carlsbad, Indian Dunes, and Saddleback get closed down due to "progress" and yet decades later remain in nearly the same condition. Granted, the buildings and houses are a little closer, but so much remains of the old ground it really makes you wish they could have held on a little longer.
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9/12/2008 6:49pm
That vid gave me a chubby.
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9/12/2008 7:17pm
Probably one of the funnest tracks I've ever ridden. I miss the place a lot. Great video share, thanks.

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9/12/2008 7:34pm
in reality carlsbad was not that "good" of a track but it sure was fun and it had personality and grit. the crowd was unreal. i loved hardpack and did well there every time i raced there if i didn't break down. the bumps were unreal and the holes and curbs kicked yer ass too but it was history every time you raced there...even back then
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9/12/2008 7:38pm
thanks scottie...simply fuckin awesome clip
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BobbyM wrote:
in reality carlsbad was not that "good" of a track but it sure was fun and it had personality and grit. the crowd was unreal. i...
in reality carlsbad was not that "good" of a track but it sure was fun and it had personality and grit. the crowd was unreal. i loved hardpack and did well there every time i raced there if i didn't break down. the bumps were unreal and the holes and curbs kicked yer ass too but it was history every time you raced there...even back then
I still rate Carlsbad as the best MX track in the US. I had buddies who refused to race there because it was too rough.

No whoop sections and only a few jumps was fine with me. I never got accustomed to the hard pack being from Ohio but the few times it was tacky I had my best finishes....mind you this was in the Vet class not in the pro ranks.
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9/12/2008 8:52pm
Nicely done video brings back some fun times, I really miss and loved that place. I had some really good finishes and battles there on the clay blue groove there etched in my memory. That place sure did get nasty by the second motos, square edged, dry and slick as snot when wet adobe. Definitely one of the most unpredictable tracks I've raced on, anything could and did happen there. Nice find OC.
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for pure mx...not even close rock. it was not even close to real moto, maybe beyond but not close.if you can understand that.


hehehe
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9/12/2008 9:11pm
no whoop section...you on crack jack?
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rubarb wrote:
Probably one of the funnest tracks I've ever ridden. I miss the place a lot. Great video share, thanks.
Probably one of the funnest tracks I've ever ridden. I miss the place a lot. Great video share, thanks.

Was a very fun track especially the uphill and down hill sections. Did you notice Schultz getting the crap beat out of him without crashing? Looked like a Magoo move.

Thanks for posting that scottie

RIP Bimbo and Moates
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9/12/2008 9:32pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:26pm
...I too, loved Carlsbad raceway.

Rode a TT500, in the 70s, and if you remember, how a 4-stroke would hook up there. Then again, in the early 80s, rode a trick TT600.

Rode YZ125s & YZ250s a lot there, then got mad at My Yamaha deal, and bought a XR400, in 1995 (Pre-production) IMS built the shit out of it, and that was my favorite bike at Carlsbad...even better than my last ride on a CRF450.

One thing about Carlsbad, when you showed up, it was rough. No whoop section, no big jumps, a lot of elevation change, a lot of off camber. A whole lot of bumps, a few drop offs, or drop aways, and it was longer than most tracks. But...It was a true Motocross track, and will remain my favorite.

It was the "House of Moates" !
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9/12/2008 9:43pm
BobbyM wrote:
for pure mx...not even close rock. it was not even close to real moto, maybe beyond but not close.if you can understand that.


hehehe
I packed my shirt but ironed my lunch...............
9/12/2008 9:43pm
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...I too, loved Carlsbad raceway. Rode a TT500, in the 70s, and if you remember, how a 4-stroke would hook up there. Then again, in the...
...I too, loved Carlsbad raceway.

Rode a TT500, in the 70s, and if you remember, how a 4-stroke would hook up there. Then again, in the early 80s, rode a trick TT600.

Rode YZ125s & YZ250s a lot there, then got mad at My Yamaha deal, and bought a XR400, in 1995 (Pre-production) IMS built the shit out of it, and that was my favorite bike at Carlsbad...even better than my last ride on a CRF450.

One thing about Carlsbad, when you showed up, it was rough. No whoop section, no big jumps, a lot of elevation change, a lot of off camber. A whole lot of bumps, a few drop offs, or drop aways, and it was longer than most tracks. But...It was a true Motocross track, and will remain my favorite.

It was the "House of Moates" !
exactly a true motocross track....
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Carlsbad...I grew up at that track. Going to the USGPs as a kid growing up, walking around on my dad's shoulders, being there in 86 for the last USGP, then being able to race the track later in my life. So many memories, many races, many crashes, but most of all...all the fun I had there. Never had a bad day at Carlsbad.
That video was great, thanks for posting.
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rubarb wrote:
Probably one of the funnest tracks I've ever ridden. I miss the place a lot. Great video share, thanks.
Probably one of the funnest tracks I've ever ridden. I miss the place a lot. Great video share, thanks.

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Was a very fun track especially the uphill and down hill sections. Did you notice Schultz getting the crap beat out of him without crashing? Looked...
Was a very fun track especially the uphill and down hill sections. Did you notice Schultz getting the crap beat out of him without crashing? Looked like a Magoo move.

Thanks for posting that scottie

RIP Bimbo and Moates
Did you ever get a chance to ride the REM track?
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They would boycott the race ocscottie.
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The biz park name is rubbing salt in the wounds.
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The biz park name is rubbing salt in the wounds.
That sign did make my heart ache just a little bit.
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jmc2 wrote:
Very cool, fun to watch.....brings back lots of memories.... My parents and I went to watch a few USGPs during our vacation from AZ during 1977-83...
Very cool, fun to watch.....brings back lots of memories....

My parents and I went to watch a few USGPs during our vacation from AZ during 1977-83 and hadn't been back since, so my wife and I took our kids to Lego Land last year and stopped by the track (kinda hard to find going by memory) here are a few pictures...









I was there a couple weeks ago on a pilgrimage. The start pad is nearly buried. now. I could only find a small section - the rest either buried in silt and/or overgrown.

If I'd had a shovel, I'd have cleared it off before it is lost for all time.

In the pic above of the start pad, the area to the left is all overgrown, as is most of what you see on the far end of the pad.

The only part exposed seems to be about a 4ft area just this side of the nearest bush on the right.

Next time I go down I may just clear it off myself if no one else has done it
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The Rock wrote:
I still rate Carlsbad as the best MX track in the US. I had buddies who refused to race there because it was too rough. No...
I still rate Carlsbad as the best MX track in the US. I had buddies who refused to race there because it was too rough.

No whoop sections and only a few jumps was fine with me. I never got accustomed to the hard pack being from Ohio but the few times it was tacky I had my best finishes....mind you this was in the Vet class not in the pro ranks.
Um, the whole uphill had whoops the size of Volkswagens from bottom to top?

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6/23/2016 11:44am Edited Date/Time 6/23/2016 12:24pm
Brent wrote:
Um, the whole uphill had whoops the size of Volkswagens from bottom to top?

Um, what years did you race at Carlsbad?

I was a regular from 88 til circa 98 when REM moved to GH. I broke third gear on my 500 on the uphill. My memories are ROUGH terrain not whoops like Millville or whoops in SX. I had riding buddies who wouldn't race Carlsbad because it was too rough.

Just loved (not) hearing how one guy in particular would talk about clearing a big jump while practicing at Perris.

BFD

EDIT After REM left Carlsbad they added a whoop section at the top of the downhill. Think I raced there once.
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I remember racing there every other week with CMC. Saddleback and Carlsbad was the norm with Saddleback Saturday also. Then throw in OCIR Thursday and Corona Friday nights... we raced 4 times a week in the summer. But some of by best memories were going to the Suzuki School of Motocross at Carlsbad.
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/06/23/140662/s1200_photo_4.jpg[/img] I remember racing there every other week with CMC. Saddleback and Carlsbad was the norm with Saddleback Saturday also. Then throw in OCIR Thursday and...


I remember racing there every other week with CMC. Saddleback and Carlsbad was the norm with Saddleback Saturday also. Then throw in OCIR Thursday and Corona Friday nights... we raced 4 times a week in the summer. But some of by best memories were going to the Suzuki School of Motocross at Carlsbad.
I never raced there, just the Suzuki School. 1982, Rodney Smith was in the class.




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The last time i raced there was Jan 89 when they ran the track backwards, Had lots of fun racing that race even though my results...
The last time i raced there was Jan 89 when they ran the track backwards, Had lots of fun racing that race even though my results sucked at best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vObsQfFsg3U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7aw24TRN1s
RIP Carlsbad. Great memories growing up at that track. Met Pastrana there when we were kids.

Question for the historians- What was it like riding a 500 compared to a 250 there? Seems like the big bumps might have been easier to soak up on the lighter bikes. Were the lap times similar? Cant get enough of the 500 vids
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I cant see any vid, just a white square.... is there a yt link?
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Same here

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