Can someone interview Cole Seely today and ask him how the '17 CRF450 rides?!

Anonymous wrote:

Seriously. I'd love to hear his opinion.

Anonymous wrote:

Seriously. I'd love to hear his opinion.

ML512 wrote:

I'll give you an idea "It's amazing, and I don't even want to ride my current factory bike anymore. Honda did just that good of a...

I'll give you an idea "It's amazing, and I don't even want to ride my current factory bike anymore. Honda did just that good of a job for the bike I rode for a photoshoot on a blown out Glen Helen. Clearly though, I would've won Glen Helen had I been on this new miracle machine..."

Sarcasm over.. Sorry, had to tease a little...

mxb2 wrote:

He is a Honda employee, what else would he say.

MANNERS226 wrote:

True, but Seeley would have a better opinion on the changes that most anyone, he been on Honda forever and he has already ridden it. I...

True, but Seeley would have a better opinion on the changes that most anyone, he been on Honda forever and he has already ridden it.

I like Keefer, ML and Stapelton, but their opinion wouldn't carry the same value.

Effective moto journalism could hopefully get some honest feedback. Maybe not. In most other sports, journalist are able to get honest answers, why is moto so scared all of the time? Michael broke the 17 CRF early, you don't think he's capable of getting a factory rider to tell us what he like better about the brands new baby?

MANNERS226 wrote:

True, but Seeley would have a better opinion on the changes that most anyone, he been on Honda forever and he has already ridden it. I...

True, but Seeley would have a better opinion on the changes that most anyone, he been on Honda forever and he has already ridden it.

I like Keefer, ML and Stapelton, but their opinion wouldn't carry the same value.

Effective moto journalism could hopefully get some honest feedback. Maybe not. In most other sports, journalist are able to get honest answers, why is moto so scared all of the time? Michael broke the 17 CRF early, you don't think he's capable of getting a factory rider to tell us what he like better about the brands new baby?

ML512 wrote:

I could easily get them to say what they like better, but getting them to admit what they still aren't satisfied with or maybe what was...

I could easily get them to say what they like better, but getting them to admit what they still aren't satisfied with or maybe what was better about their last bike is a whole different can of worms. That's where myself or say Keefer comes in. We'll give you the negatives, Cole Seely can't and won't.

mxb2 wrote:

He is a Honda employee, what else would he say.

Dirty Points wrote:

"I heard the Japanese first-run units were eating valves like crazy. I sure hope they got that locked in, I think maybe the mapping was just...

"I heard the Japanese first-run units were eating valves like crazy. I sure hope they got that locked in, I think maybe the mapping was just too lean. There were also about 35,000 units that are slated for delivery with improperly sourced waterpump impeller o-ring. Yeah, those are going to go to shit. They might recall it if greater than 5,000 early production units see catostrophic bottom end failure, or just ignore it. I mean, it'll leak right into the crankcase, but we are confident our early adopter customers will follow every technical service bulletin. Besides, they will get that worked out by the time the December models are rolling off the line.

And, oh man, you should hear what they're telling me about the new Ridgeline. What a clusterfuck! Here, let me find my notes..."

motomx88 wrote:

[url=http://motocrossactionmag.com/news/watch-cole-seely-ride-the-2017-crf450-at-glen-helen]http://motocrossactionmag.com/news/watch-cole-seely-ride-the-2017-crf450-at-glen-helen[/url] I have no idea what he thinks about the bike, but he makes that bike look better than it already does. Honda knows how to...

http://motocrossactionmag.com/news/watch-cole-seely-ride-the-2017-crf450-at-glen-helen


I have no idea what he thinks about the bike, but he makes that bike look better than it already does. Honda knows how to build excitement around their brand. It's looking good for them going into 2017. I've never been a Honda fan but im a fan of the riders.

motomx88 wrote:

[url=http://motocrossactionmag.com/news/watch-cole-seely-ride-the-2017-crf450-at-glen-helen]http://motocrossactionmag.com/news/watch-cole-seely-ride-the-2017-crf450-at-glen-helen[/url] I have no idea what he thinks about the bike, but he makes that bike look better than it already does. Honda knows how to...

http://motocrossactionmag.com/news/watch-cole-seely-ride-the-2017-crf450-at-glen-helen


I have no idea what he thinks about the bike, but he makes that bike look better than it already does. Honda knows how to build excitement around their brand. It's looking good for them going into 2017. I've never been a Honda fan but im a fan of the riders.

ML512 wrote:

That video is on our homepage as well... Just saying..

That video is on our homepage as well... Just saying..

ML512 wrote:

I could easily get them to say what they like better, but getting them to admit what they still aren't satisfied with or maybe what was...

I could easily get them to say what they like better, but getting them to admit what they still aren't satisfied with or maybe what was better about their last bike is a whole different can of worms. That's where myself or say Keefer comes in. We'll give you the negatives, Cole Seely can't and won't.

Anonymous wrote:

Seriously. I'd love to hear his opinion.

ML512 wrote:

I'll give you an idea "It's amazing, and I don't even want to ride my current factory bike anymore. Honda did just that good of a...

I'll give you an idea "It's amazing, and I don't even want to ride my current factory bike anymore. Honda did just that good of a job for the bike I rode for a photoshoot on a blown out Glen Helen. Clearly though, I would've won Glen Helen had I been on this new miracle machine..."

Sarcasm over.. Sorry, had to tease a little...

motomx88 wrote:

[url=http://motocrossactionmag.com/news/watch-cole-seely-ride-the-2017-crf450-at-glen-helen]http://motocrossactionmag.com/news/watch-cole-seely-ride-the-2017-crf450-at-glen-helen[/url] I have no idea what he thinks about the bike, but he makes that bike look better than it already does. Honda knows how to...

http://motocrossactionmag.com/news/watch-cole-seely-ride-the-2017-crf450-at-glen-helen


I have no idea what he thinks about the bike, but he makes that bike look better than it already does. Honda knows how to build excitement around their brand. It's looking good for them going into 2017. I've never been a Honda fan but im a fan of the riders.

ML512 wrote:

That video is on our homepage as well... Just saying..

That video is on our homepage as well... Just saying..

ML512 wrote:

I could easily get them to say what they like better, but getting them to admit what they still aren't satisfied with or maybe what was...

I could easily get them to say what they like better, but getting them to admit what they still aren't satisfied with or maybe what was better about their last bike is a whole different can of worms. That's where myself or say Keefer comes in. We'll give you the negatives, Cole Seely can't and won't.

mxrose3 wrote:

I bet we could get Roczen to admit what he doesn't like about the Suzuki... just sayin'

MANNERS226 wrote:

Vital has the best coverage on this 2017 release by far today.

mx621 wrote:

kevin windham said the same thing about the stock 2000 cr250.. said it was beter then his factory 1999 bike

MANNERS226 wrote:

^^^ This. He isn't wrong....

mx621 wrote:

kevin windham said the same thing about the stock 2000 cr250.. said it was beter then his factory 1999 bike

mx510 wrote:

That is believable. Stock to stock the 99 is/was a complete shit sandwich.

mx621 wrote:

kevin windham said the same thing about the stock 2000 cr250.. said it was beter then his factory 1999 bike

mx510 wrote:

That is believable. Stock to stock the 99 is/was a complete shit sandwich.

Dirty Points wrote:

Not stock to stock. Stock to factory. It's bullshit regardless of the year or bike. Most all riders can't use stock to full potential. Windham is...

Not stock to stock. Stock to factory. It's bullshit regardless of the year or bike.

Most all riders can't use stock to full potential. Windham is a different story: a factory bike to tailored to his spec will crush anything else, short of another amazing rider.

MANNERS226 wrote:

^^^ This. He isn't wrong....

ML512 wrote:

Not quite, because Roczen was saying he was forced onto those forks, which isn't true... He's raced with spring and could have continued on them, but...

Not quite, because Roczen was saying he was forced onto those forks, which isn't true... He's raced with spring and could have continued on them, but he picked KYB's PSF1 fork...

MANNERS226 wrote:

You think he will choose to run KYB again next year, even with Honda putting spring Showa on the 17 stock bike?

mxb2 wrote:

He is a Honda employee, what else would he say.

MANNERS226 wrote:

True, but Seeley would have a better opinion on the changes that most anyone, he been on Honda forever and he has already ridden it. I...

True, but Seeley would have a better opinion on the changes that most anyone, he been on Honda forever and he has already ridden it.

I like Keefer, ML and Stapelton, but their opinion wouldn't carry the same value.

Effective moto journalism could hopefully get some honest feedback. Maybe not. In most other sports, journalist are able to get honest answers, why is moto so scared all of the time? Michael broke the 17 CRF early, you don't think he's capable of getting a factory rider to tell us what he like better about the brands new baby?