Can someone interview Cole Seely today and ask him how the '17 CRF450 rides?!

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8/11/2016 7:00 AM

Seriously. I'd love to hear his opinion.

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8/11/2016 7:07 AM

If you wanna know how it feels with AA kit and nothing actually stock lol...

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8/11/2016 7:08 AM

He said "it's really fast, until it slams you down to the ground".....

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8/11/2016 7:58 AM

Great idea. I've always found that the most honest commentary on bike performance comes from those employed by the brand in question.

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8/11/2016 8:01 AM

MANNERS226 wrote:

Seriously. I'd love to hear his opinion.

I'll give you an idea "It's amazing, and I don't even want to ride my current factory bike anymore. Honda did just that good of a job for the bike I rode for a photoshoot on a blown out Glen Helen. Clearly though, I would've won Glen Helen had I been on this new miracle machine..."

Sarcasm over.. Sorry, had to tease a little...

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8/11/2016 8:03 AM

MANNERS226 wrote:

Seriously. I'd love to hear his opinion.

ML512 wrote:

I'll give you an idea "It's amazing, and I don't even want to ride my current factory bike anymore. Honda did just that good ...more

LMFAO, BRILLIANT! Thanks for that great start to my morning, ML

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8/11/2016 8:08 AM

kevin windham said the same thing about the stock 2000 cr250.. said it was beter then his factory 1999 bike

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8/11/2016 8:42 AM

the guy probably hasn't ridden a stock bike in 10 years or so.

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8/11/2016 9:08 AM

He is a Honda employee, what else would he say.

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8/11/2016 10:18 AM

True, but Seeley would have a better opinion on the changes that most anyone, he been on Honda forever and he has already ridden it.

I like Keefer, ML and Stapelton, but their opinion wouldn't carry the same value.

Effective moto journalism could hopefully get some honest feedback. Maybe not. In most other sports, journalist are able to get honest answers, why is moto so scared all of the time? Michael broke the 17 CRF early, you don't think he's capable of getting a factory rider to tell us what he like better about the brands new baby?

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8/11/2016 10:32 AM
Edited Date/Time: 8/11/2016 10:49 AM

mxb2 wrote:

He is a Honda employee, what else would he say.

"I heard the Japanese first-run units were eating valves like crazy. I sure hope they got that locked in, I think maybe the mapping was just too lean. There were also about 35,000 units that are slated for delivery with improperly sourced waterpump impeller o-ring. Yeah, those are going to go to shit. They might recall it if greater than 5,000 early production units see catostrophic bottom end failure, or just ignore it. I mean, it'll leak right into the crankcase, but we are confident our early adopter customers will follow every technical service bulletin. Besides, they will get that worked out by the time the December models are rolling off the line.

And, oh man, you should hear what they're telling me about the new Ridgeline. What a clusterfuck! Here, let me find my notes..."

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8/11/2016 10:39 AM

MANNERS226 wrote:

True, but Seeley would have a better opinion on the changes that most anyone, he been on Honda forever and he has already ...more

I could easily get them to say what they like better, but getting them to admit what they still aren't satisfied with or maybe what was better about their last bike is a whole different can of worms. That's where myself or say Keefer comes in. We'll give you the negatives, Cole Seely can't and won't.

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8/11/2016 10:40 AM

MANNERS226 wrote:

True, but Seeley would have a better opinion on the changes that most anyone, he been on Honda forever and he has already ...more

ML512 wrote:

I could easily get them to say what they like better, but getting them to admit what they still aren't satisfied with or maybe ...more

X2,

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8/11/2016 10:55 AM

http://motocrossactionmag.com/news/watch-cole-seely-ride-the-2017-crf450-at-glen-helen


I have no idea what he thinks about the bike, but he makes that bike look better than it already does. Honda knows how to build excitement around their brand. It's looking good for them going into 2017. I've never been a Honda fan but im a fan of the riders.
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8/11/2016 10:58 AM

mxb2 wrote:

He is a Honda employee, what else would he say.

Dirty Points wrote:

"I heard the Japanese first-run units were eating valves like crazy. I sure hope they got that locked in, I think maybe the ...more

I saw a commercial for the Ridgeline last night. Not a good looking "truck" at all.

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8/11/2016 11:00 AM

That video is on our homepage as well... Just saying..

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8/11/2016 11:08 AM

ML512 wrote:

That video is on our homepage as well... Just saying..

Haha. Thanks. Just thought a Seely post should have a little Seely.

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8/11/2016 11:09 AM

ML512 wrote:

I could easily get them to say what they like better, but getting them to admit what they still aren't satisfied with or maybe ...more

I bet we could get Roczen to admit what he doesn't like about the Suzuki... just sayin' grin

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8/11/2016 11:12 AM

MANNERS226 wrote:

Seriously. I'd love to hear his opinion.

ML512 wrote:

I'll give you an idea "It's amazing, and I don't even want to ride my current factory bike anymore. Honda did just that good ...more

Good job! smile

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8/11/2016 11:54 AM
Edited Date/Time: 8/11/2016 11:54 AM

ML512 wrote:

That video is on our homepage as well... Just saying..

Vital has the best coverage on this 2017 release by far today.

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8/11/2016 12:06 PM

MANNERS226 wrote:

True, but Seeley would have a better opinion on the changes that most anyone, he been on Honda forever and he has already ...more

ML512 wrote:

I could easily get them to say what they like better, but getting them to admit what they still aren't satisfied with or maybe ...more

mxrose3 wrote:

I bet we could get Roczen to admit what he doesn't like about the Suzuki... just sayin' grin

^^^ This. He isn't wrong....

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8/11/2016 12:31 PM

MANNERS226 wrote:

Vital has the best coverage on this 2017 release by far today.

They have had the best info all year on it....and Manny smile

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8/11/2016 12:40 PM

mx621 wrote:

kevin windham said the same thing about the stock 2000 cr250.. said it was beter then his factory 1999 bike

That is believable. Stock to stock the 99 is/was a complete shit sandwich.

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8/11/2016 12:41 PM

MANNERS226 wrote:

^^^ This. He isn't wrong....

Not quite, because Roczen was saying he was forced onto those forks, which isn't true... He's raced with spring and could have continued on them, but he picked KYB's PSF1 fork...

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8/11/2016 1:03 PM
Edited Date/Time: 8/11/2016 1:07 PM

mx621 wrote:

kevin windham said the same thing about the stock 2000 cr250.. said it was beter then his factory 1999 bike

mx510 wrote:

That is believable. Stock to stock the 99 is/was a complete shit sandwich.

Not stock to stock. Stock to factory. It's bullshit regardless of the year or bike.

Most all riders can't use stock to full potential. Windham is a different story: a factory bike to tailored to his spec will crush anything else, short of another amazing rider.

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8/11/2016 2:03 PM

mx621 wrote:

kevin windham said the same thing about the stock 2000 cr250.. said it was beter then his factory 1999 bike

mx510 wrote:

That is believable. Stock to stock the 99 is/was a complete shit sandwich.

Dirty Points wrote:

Not stock to stock. Stock to factory. It's bullshit regardless of the year or bike.

Most all riders can't use stock to full ...more

x2

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Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1000L

8/11/2016 2:51 PM

mxrose3 wrote:

I bet we could get Roczen to admit what he doesn't like about the Suzuki... just sayin' grin

MANNERS226 wrote:

^^^ This. He isn't wrong....

ML512 wrote:

Not quite, because Roczen was saying he was forced onto those forks, which isn't true... He's raced with spring and could have ...more

You think he will choose to run KYB again next year, even with Honda putting spring Showa on the 17 stock bike?

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8/11/2016 2:59 PM

MANNERS226 wrote:

You think he will choose to run KYB again next year, even with Honda putting spring Showa on the 17 stock bike?

No clue... Ultimately, it'll come down to testing. I do know that Cole, Trey, and Justin currently love working with Johnny from KYB... We'll see how Ken works into it.

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8/11/2016 3:03 PM

"This new CRF is the real deal I cannot wait till I get in the line at the monster cup with it."

Translation.....

This bike is a total roach. I better call up my agent and see if I can get out of my contract.

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8/11/2016 3:21 PM

mxb2 wrote:

He is a Honda employee, what else would he say.

You are right that it is in his best interest to praise the new bike, but technically he is not an employee. He is contracted to race the bike and represent Honda per his contract. Check this out...

http://motocrossactionmag.com/home-page/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-factory-contracts

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