Can Tomac Surpass Reed's SX Win Tally?

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* One more win would do it. It could have happened last year, but didn't.

* Can Tomac surpass Carmichael's SX win record @ 48?

* Can Tomac surpass Stewart's SX win record @ 50?

* Can Tomac surpass McGrath's.......... FUGGEDABOUTIT !!!


Enjoy!
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motomike137 9/5/2022 11:16am
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I think he will get to Carmichael and maybe tie James. I believe he is going to win 2023 SX and retire.
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ShipLap 9/5/2022 11:26am
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He won how many last year? Seven. If he won that many this year, he would have 51 wins.

BOOM !!
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vanillaice782 9/5/2022 11:52am
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Would love to see him atleast tie JS7 just for the sake of a new guy getting up there with the legends.
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westeast 9/5/2022 12:17pm
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I wonder how hungry he will be text year? Tomac had something to prove after leaving Kawasaki, but after winning both titles this year he really has nothing left to prove. Plus the competition will probably be tougher with a confident sexton and Anderson. I’d love to see him tie Stewart though.
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fanger 9/5/2022 3:03pm
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Impressive that dunge has 34 wins and 4 titles, wow.

I'll make the call now, tomac will have 52 wins and 3 titles by the end of the next season.
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Dirty Points 9/5/2022 3:20pm
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Right now, I'll spitball 6 wins, one less than last season, which would leave him exactly tied with Stew.
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mxlegend99 9/5/2022 4:13pm
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He's definitely passing Chad in 2023. No way he doesn't win atleast once.

I think he's a chance to jump Ricky and James too. But not exactly a sure thing.
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Park Boys 9/5/2022 4:36pm
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Had he not hurt his knee this year maybe he would have gotten close to 10. If he’s Healthy and motivated there’s no reason to think that he would at least not get to 5.
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Mavetism 9/5/2022 4:40pm
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I think this will strongly depend on Anderson and Sexton. If Tomac is the same as this year, I say yes. If Anderson and Sexton step it up and eliminate their weird races or crashes, then it might be tough to overtake Stewart, but I do think he gets Reed and Carmichael next year. Dude is both at the peak and the end of his career, which is crazy to me lol.
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Dirty Points 9/5/2022 4:43pm
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Mavetism wrote:
I think this will strongly depend on Anderson and Sexton. If Tomac is the same as this year, I say yes. If Anderson and Sexton step...
I think this will strongly depend on Anderson and Sexton. If Tomac is the same as this year, I say yes. If Anderson and Sexton step it up and eliminate their weird races or crashes, then it might be tough to overtake Stewart, but I do think he gets Reed and Carmichael next year. Dude is both at the peak and the end of his career, which is crazy to me lol.
Didn't Dunge, Ricky, Poto, all peak at the end of their career?
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Mavetism 9/5/2022 5:09pm
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Dirty Points wrote:
Didn't Dunge, Ricky, Poto, all peak at the end of their career?
Yeah but Tomac already goes hard for 12 years now, and he still improved on the yamaha. Not only is he as fast as ever, he also gets good starts now. That's the crazy part to me. The other riders usually retired after 8-9 years?
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ShipLap 9/5/2022 9:26pm
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New bike?
Why don't they leave the current bike alone?

Sometimes they fiddle with a bike just to be fiddling (and make it worse).
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Dirty Points 9/5/2022 9:48pm
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ShipLap wrote:
New bike?
Why don't they leave the current bike alone?

Sometimes they fiddle with a bike just to be fiddling (and make it worse).
They dropped 5 lbs and cleaned up the ergos, while keeping the same base design. I would guess most riders who like the current one will be pleased.

It's not exactly a revolutionary set of changes.
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Dirty Points wrote:
Didn't Dunge, Ricky, Poto, all peak at the end of their career?
Mavetism wrote:
Yeah but Tomac already goes hard for 12 years now, and he still improved on the yamaha. Not only is he as fast as ever, he...
Yeah but Tomac already goes hard for 12 years now, and he still improved on the yamaha. Not only is he as fast as ever, he also gets good starts now. That's the crazy part to me. The other riders usually retired after 8-9 years?
This is true. Amazing what Tomac did this year. I think he will only pass RC though. Not JS.

I also suspect he may ride the world SX series next year instead of the Nationals. Something new and unique. I bet they throw a huge amount of money at him.
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Dirty Points 9/5/2022 10:07pm
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Dirty Points wrote:
Didn't Dunge, Ricky, Poto, all peak at the end of their career?
Mavetism wrote:
Yeah but Tomac already goes hard for 12 years now, and he still improved on the yamaha. Not only is he as fast as ever, he...
Yeah but Tomac already goes hard for 12 years now, and he still improved on the yamaha. Not only is he as fast as ever, he also gets good starts now. That's the crazy part to me. The other riders usually retired after 8-9 years?
Fair. Tomac's competitive longevity is rare for riders at their peak. It is not in Cairoli ranks, but it is a cut above nearly all Supercross champions.
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blockhead17 9/5/2022 10:26pm
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James Ricky and Chads wins are all so crazy because they are against each other..
Best ever Era of SX right there!

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DrinkMoreWater 9/5/2022 10:37pm
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Ita crazy to think what his career would have been if he was on the right team this whole time.

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Dirty Points 9/5/2022 10:40pm
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DrinkMoreWater wrote:
Ita crazy to think what his career would have been if he was on the right team this whole time.

He's literally been a champion on every team on which he has raced.
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Crush 9/6/2022 12:00am
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Better than a good chance i'd say.

It's crazy to think there are probably 4 titles that very likely could have been in his cabinet too... the 3 SX chips in 17/18/19 and the 15 outdoors. He's already got 7. That would have been 11 and very rarified air. RV has 9. RC has 15.

Also will be super interesting to see how the new bike impacts his thought process. The new team obviously refreshed things for him, if the bike is super good, an improvement over what he has...
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DrinkMoreWater 9/6/2022 1:48am
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DrinkMoreWater wrote:
Ita crazy to think what his career would have been if he was on the right team this whole time.

Dirty Points wrote:
He's literally been a champion on every team on which he has raced.
Because that's how good of a rider he is, his days at kawasaki were very underwhelming compared to how he was riding on the Honda in terms of raw speed, his best year performance wise with kawi was when he was chasing Dungey for the SX title.

Since his arrival at Yamaha is a completely different man and his riding shows it, no Eli weirdness.

If he had his comfort and confidence he has now through out his whole career he'd break some records.
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DrinkMoreWater wrote:
Ita crazy to think what his career would have been if he was on the right team this whole time.

Dirty Points wrote:
He's literally been a champion on every team on which he has raced.
DrinkMoreWater wrote:
Because that's how good of a rider he is, his days at kawasaki were very underwhelming compared to how he was riding on the Honda in...
Because that's how good of a rider he is, his days at kawasaki were very underwhelming compared to how he was riding on the Honda in terms of raw speed, his best year performance wise with kawi was when he was chasing Dungey for the SX title.

Since his arrival at Yamaha is a completely different man and his riding shows it, no Eli weirdness.

If he had his comfort and confidence he has now through out his whole career he'd break some records.
Speed Vs. Titles. 4 on kawy. Zero on honda. If if if. Shda wda cda. Doesnt count.
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ShipLap 9/6/2022 4:57am
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DrinkMoreWater wrote:
Because that's how good of a rider he is, his days at kawasaki were very underwhelming compared to how he was riding on the Honda in...
Because that's how good of a rider he is, his days at kawasaki were very underwhelming compared to how he was riding on the Honda in terms of raw speed, his best year performance wise with kawi was when he was chasing Dungey for the SX title.

Since his arrival at Yamaha is a completely different man and his riding shows it, no Eli weirdness.

If he had his comfort and confidence he has now through out his whole career he'd break some records.
no Eli weirdness.

Yes that.
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Crush 9/6/2022 5:02am
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mxb2 wrote:
Speed Vs. Titles. 4 on kawy. Zero on honda. If if if. Shda wda cda. Doesnt count.
Except for the 2012 West SX 250 and 2013 250 National title...
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mxb2 9/6/2022 5:10am
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mxb2 wrote:
Speed Vs. Titles. 4 on kawy. Zero on honda. If if if. Shda wda cda. Doesnt count.
Crush wrote:
Except for the 2012 West SX 250 and 2013 250 National title...
My bad,i was just counting big bike titles.
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CPR 9/6/2022 5:14am
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blockhead17 wrote:
James Ricky and Chads wins are all so crazy because they are against each other.. Best ever Era of SX right there! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/09/05/567200/s1200_39B1DCAB_3205_4C32_A725_CD6D06512C64.jpg[/img]
James Ricky and Chads wins are all so crazy because they are against each other..
Best ever Era of SX right there!

That’s the crazy thing, take away any one of those three and someone’s above McGrath’s tally, which is inconceivable.
Definitely the pinnacle of SX to date. But Tomac belongs in that company, legend.
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johnk408 9/6/2022 5:27am
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Sooooo....what category will SuperMotoCross round wins get thrown into? A new category I assume? None at all? If held indoors like at LA Coliseum like they kept saying is that a SX Win? I guess like winning the Monster Cup, everyone celebrates the win and the money, but not in any record books.
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yak651 9/6/2022 5:28am
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blockhead17 wrote:
James Ricky and Chads wins are all so crazy because they are against each other.. Best ever Era of SX right there! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/09/05/567200/s1200_39B1DCAB_3205_4C32_A725_CD6D06512C64.jpg[/img]
James Ricky and Chads wins are all so crazy because they are against each other..
Best ever Era of SX right there!

Cool pic. If that happened today people would be complaining that Reed is sawing off RCs front end and RC is t-boning James...
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