Cairoli, Herlings, Roczen, Desalle...

RY4N37 wrote:

I think I probably argue with the order you put them in. Cairoli has to be number 1 for how many titles he has. It's my...

I think I probably argue with the order you put them in. Cairoli has to be number 1 for how many titles he has.

It's my personal opinion that when Herlings is 100% he is faster than pretty much everyone else on the planet. But he needs to move onto a 450 or a 350 to prove it

EnvyMedia wrote:

If Pourcel still had a ride and put in the same work like he did in 2009, he would be very high in that list.

crusty_xx wrote:

The best of what? If you mean the GP circuit then rank roczen a little lower below herlings at least. IIf you think both series combined...

The best of what?
If you mean the GP circuit then rank roczen a little lower below herlings at least.
IIf you think both series combined then roczen first and add musquin to your top5 I guess.
Tough call, I think we haven't seen the best of Paulin this season, I expected him to outperform desalle to be honest.

kaidoddragon wrote:

Who is actually the best european rider ? There's some guys who are really good: Cairoli, Roczen, Herlings, Desalle, Nagl, Paulin... But who is the best...

Who is actually the best european rider ?

There's some guys who are really good: Cairoli, Roczen, Herlings, Desalle, Nagl, Paulin...

But who is the best of the best ?

If I have to put a top 5, I 'll say

1 Cairoli
2 Roczen (really close call between those 2 for first)
3 Herlings
4 Desalle
5 Paulin

RY4N37 wrote:

I think I probably argue with the order you put them in. Cairoli has to be number 1 for how many titles he has. It's my...

I think I probably argue with the order you put them in. Cairoli has to be number 1 for how many titles he has.

It's my personal opinion that when Herlings is 100% he is faster than pretty much everyone else on the planet. But he needs to move onto a 450 or a 350 to prove it

IWreckALot wrote:

But he needs to move onto a 450 or a 350 to prove it

Fuckin A. . . Truer words have never been spoken.

RY4N37 wrote:

I think I probably argue with the order you put them in. Cairoli has to be number 1 for how many titles he has. It's my...

I think I probably argue with the order you put them in. Cairoli has to be number 1 for how many titles he has.

It's my personal opinion that when Herlings is 100% he is faster than pretty much everyone else on the planet. But he needs to move onto a 450 or a 350 to prove it

IWreckALot wrote:

But he needs to move onto a 450 or a 350 to prove it

Fuckin A. . . Truer words have never been spoken.

RY4N37 wrote:

Worth pointing out though that Herlings is nearly a full year younger than J Martin. The only reason people are on his case to move up...

Worth pointing out though that Herlings is nearly a full year younger than J Martin. The only reason people are on his case to move up is because he is so much better than everyone else, which isn't realy his fault. I just want him to move up to answer his critics and show how good he really is

IWreckALot wrote:

But he needs to move onto a 450 or a 350 to prove it

Fuckin A. . . Truer words have never been spoken.

RY4N37 wrote:

Worth pointing out though that Herlings is nearly a full year younger than J Martin. The only reason people are on his case to move up...

Worth pointing out though that Herlings is nearly a full year younger than J Martin. The only reason people are on his case to move up is because he is so much better than everyone else, which isn't realy his fault. I just want him to move up to answer his critics and show how good he really is

HenryA wrote:

...worth pointing out is that Roczen (who is 5 months older than Herlings) is also born in 1994 and is the current 450mx champ.

Bruce372 wrote:

How the hell can Herlings be above Roczen?? Herlings has one 250 world title Roczen has one 250 world title, plus a supercross250 title and a...

How the hell can Herlings be above Roczen??

Herlings has one 250 world title

Roczen has one 250 world title, plus a supercross250 title and a 450 AMA title.

PressPassP wrote:

Herlings Cairoli Nagl Roczen Desalle Paulin Van Horbeek Strijbos Febvre Ferrandis Musquin de Dyker Tixier Herlings shades it for me after seeing him in person and...

Herlings
Cairoli
Nagl
Roczen
Desalle
Paulin
Van Horbeek
Strijbos
Febvre
Ferrandis
Musquin
de Dyker
Tixier

Herlings shades it for me after seeing him in person and has raced a 350 on numerous occasions,including beating Strijbos,de Dycker,Bobby etc by a minute in Nationals quite a while ago (and I'm a big AC fan)

St Ann More wrote:

Cairoli
Herlings
Roczen
Desalle
Paulin

dice78 wrote:

This shit is really easy KR94 is #1 he kick ass on both sides..and I think he won the 450 Title in his first year killing...

This shit is really easy KR94 is #1 he kick ass on both sides..and I think he won the 450 Title in his first year killing #5 #41 #22 #3 #7

TDeath21 wrote:

It's not fair to compare GP riders and AMA riders. Here's why: MX is the only thing they both ride, so that's really the only comparison...

It's not fair to compare GP riders and AMA riders. Here's why:

MX is the only thing they both ride, so that's really the only comparison we can make. That's not fair to the AMA riders, since they spend half of the year (actually a little more) training for SX, and a little under half the year training for MX. GP riders are training for MX year round. This gives them an unfair advantage if we only compare MX. The other side to the coin is that SX has to be taken into account, since it's half the racing the AMA guys do. A dominant SX guy who is top 5 in MX should be considered a top rider. That's not fair to GP riders though, since they never even train for SX. It's an epic paradox that has no conclusion. That's why I will never rank riders of GP and AMA together.

That being said, here's my current list.

AMA:

1. Roczen
2. Musquin
3. Are there other Europeans in the AMA series I'm missing? My brain isn't working today.

GP:

1. Cairoli
2. Desalle
3. Nagl
4. Paulin
5. Herlings

PressPassP wrote:

Herlings Cairoli Nagl Roczen Desalle Paulin Van Horbeek Strijbos Febvre Ferrandis Musquin de Dyker Tixier Herlings shades it for me after seeing him in person and...

Herlings
Cairoli
Nagl
Roczen
Desalle
Paulin
Van Horbeek
Strijbos
Febvre
Ferrandis
Musquin
de Dyker
Tixier

Herlings shades it for me after seeing him in person and has raced a 350 on numerous occasions,including beating Strijbos,de Dycker,Bobby etc by a minute in Nationals quite a while ago (and I'm a big AC fan)