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Lined up with MX Sports? .....DC what kind of kickback did they (Honda) give to MX Sports? JK.....In all seriousness though. For a bike that cannot be raced against any other Mfg's 85's at the amature level it seems like they got or bought a more little extra exposure than the rest of the minibike Mfg's. LOL
Guess since Honda can't get the bikes to be showcased at the am races except for 150 only classes they found a way to be ridden at the national rounds in front of the biggest of all mx classes.....or did I miss something here?...either way you be the judge, to me it seems a little strange unless they are having a CRF150 class during Amature day before or after the actual national
http://motocross.transworld.net/1000098947/news/honda-and-mx-sports-tea…
ps ....no "wtf" in this thread title so I don't get flamed for jumoing on DC back. I do find it a little odd though...... AC92 would spank even the best 150 rider even though the bkke isn't legal for the 85 class and is it legal for the super mini class?
Guess since Honda can't get the bikes to be showcased at the am races except for 150 only classes they found a way to be ridden at the national rounds in front of the biggest of all mx classes.....or did I miss something here?...either way you be the judge, to me it seems a little strange unless they are having a CRF150 class during Amature day before or after the actual national
http://motocross.transworld.net/1000098947/news/honda-and-mx-sports-tea…
ps ....no "wtf" in this thread title so I don't get flamed for jumoing on DC back. I do find it a little odd though...... AC92 would spank even the best 150 rider even though the bkke isn't legal for the 85 class and is it legal for the super mini class?
It is only the last 2 rounds ....which Im assuming those 2 rounds are lacking the WMA or are they gonna try and squeeze the 250 class in with the rest of the package? Seems odd that there would be no WMA round at the last (Pala) round given the award ceremonies and end if season stuff is going on at Pala the WMA like them or not have put in work this summer and deserve to race the final round
The Shop
As for the WMX not being at Pala, remember Glen Helen was on the original schedule. They opted not to have the WMX there and host a two-stroke race instead, so the eight WMX races went to other tracks. Then GH dropped out and Pala came on board, but the WMX calendar was already set. In hindsight, we should have considered maybe adding another round, and next year the WMX will almost certainly be part of Pala and the final round.
And for what it's worth, because Pala will be shown live on SPEED, they wanted to make sure they were on time with everything for the first-ever national.
DC
MX Sports
Maybe it is just a way to have another race. There is more to racing then the AMA. GFI, CMC all the Small Local races. I am just curious why you think the bike can not get any exposure.
Personally I think the AMA Amateur racing series is a sham. All the way to Loretta Lynn's. I don't hide this and I know there is an industry behind it. Sadly for the sole reason to earn a profit. It has left Grass Roots, the majority of racers earn either money, bikes or get to the races cost free. The bikes are far from showroom. There is only the competition of who spent the most to get there. Trainers, mechanics, Home schooling children in the hopes of making it to the top 1% of a sport that really has a short lifespan of the racers. Then what? Illiterate adults that maybe can work a parts counter?
I have said it before. GPA's need to be part of the Amateur racing, and from accredited schools. Not from Aunt Mary who got a teaching credential and is now having class around traveling to 12 stops across the country and in-between coach sessions.
This isnt everyone that competes, but it is a large percentage and in my opinion its doing the children and our sport no good.
Amateur means - accept NO EARNINGS whatsoever. That includes provided bikes to sell on ebay. It just has nothing to do with the meaning of Amateur.
As for the Money in AM racing? Your right about how it's a bit polluted: That's all on the manufacturers and...to some extent...the Pro Teams...many of them have an Am-Program, ya know? Factory Connection, Pro Circuit...etc.
I-WOULD-have a more "open" tear-down policy in stock classes...maybe even make it "mandatory"...I'd go a bit NASCAR on this one!
GPA's? Accredited schools? You aren't going to like this; but, this won't change the "Have's v. Have Not's" issue. Who do ya think can afford to cheat this requirement?
As for the events and cost of going to Loretta's? I'm not going to throw the race and the promoters under the bus. It's a pretty damn good system and provides for some really good racing.
I agree, BUT it might provide options to those who lawn dart into the ground and then have to start over by getting a GED at 24. Just a safety net for those that may not HAVE all the others have.
I agree it would throw the industry under the bus, as far as good racing, That will always be there regardless.
While the bikes may meet spec. They are sure far from what comes off the showroom floor. The bore and stroke maybe accurate but they are massaged, or picked from the cream of the crop. Everyone wants to be a winner. Amateur racing makes pop warner football look tame in comparison.
Cheating is racing, it will always be there. I just feel the bar should be standardized for the Haves, and the Have not's. Not just the Haves.
Same here in Virginia...
These guys are selling an 08 150R for less than an 09 150F
Pit Row
nothing worse then a bike like this in the mini class.
Things are moving farther and farther from what I consider healthy for the sport (IMO). How much cooler would a 125 support class be? Come on already...
I'm not a mini-dad or a mini rider..
If Honda held supermini qualifiers and the fastest riders got to race Honda provided CRF's similar to what KTM did, I would think that is pretty cool. I realized that time constraints probably won't allow that to happen this year.
That being said, wouldn't a "Honda Supermini Shootout" be more appropriate?
Allowing all supermini's (as per the rules) to race would ensure a deeper talent pool and if a kid on a CRF happen's to win.. Great! Shows Honda has a great bike (or a great rider on one of their CRF's). I also think the average fan would appreciate it more.. (Especially if someone like AC92 shows up).
I don't think a kid should be denied a chance to race a great venue because of the brand of bike they have.
Just my opinon..
If you ever get three adults with 150F's in the same area, there is going to be a world class battle with laughter and carnage.
Truer words have never been spoken..
Seems like Honda lining MX Sports pockets in order to gain exposure for a bike that's quite clearly failing in it's intended class.
I'm sorry, but when a promoter, who is made out to be such a guardian of our sport, half heartedly supports a motion that would see pros have the choice to compete on 2 strokes on an even playing field and rolls over when the manufacturer says no, then bow down to Honda in exchange for a few quid to showcase a bike no one wants to race I have to call bullshit.
Seriously, if I wanted to watch kids race 150 fourstokes I'd come over and head for Lorretta's. Is this what core fans want to see at a AMA pro national?
Get your 16-18 year olds on >150cc 2 strokes, give the fans what they want and support the manufacturers that are trying to keep the sport growing at grass roots level......
But maybe KTM, TM, Husky and Yamaha don't pay Honda money......
And Ewan, I didn't just go along with it; I liked the idea and think it will be interesting. If it works out, great; if it doesn't, we will try something else.
DC
MX Sports
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