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Edited Date/Time 12/5/2017 3:40pm
Anybody have more info,

HONDA CRF450 ISSUES:

MXA had issues with our Honda CRF450 during our 450 Shootout time period, given that our CRF450 was one of only a handful of 2017 CRF450s in the country at the time, there was no way to know how well it should perform at the time of our Shootout. Our dyno results were very good on the top-end and especially at peak horsepower, but our test bike (which we started testing in October) wasn’t especially notable in the low-to-mid range. When we sent it back to Honda to have it checked out—and rebuilt, it came back surprisingly better when we re-dyno’ed it for a separate 2017 CRF450 test in the issue following the Shootout issue. There were no changes in peak horsepower, but the low-to-mid transition ran better. Amid a rash of 2017 CRF450 engine failures, most commonly related to failures of the automatic compression release mechanism (shades of 2009), we are not sure what is going on with the CRF450.
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kkawboy14 12/27/2016 8:28am
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They pulled the rag out of the air filter and sent it back......
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Honda added a tooth to the rear, dropped 10cc of oil in the forks, then got graphics that said "Bultaco." Now its Jody's favorite...
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TheGetFresh 12/27/2016 9:10am
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"Amid a rash of 2017 CRF450 engine failures, most commonly related to failures of the automatic compression release mechanism (shades of 2009)"

Have they substantiated these claims
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TheGetFresh wrote:
"Amid a [b]rash of 2017 CRF450 engine failures[/b], most commonly related to failures of the automatic compression release mechanism (shades of 2009)" Have they substantiated these...
"Amid a rash of 2017 CRF450 engine failures, most commonly related to failures of the automatic compression release mechanism (shades of 2009)"

Have they substantiated these claims
I have not heard a single instance of a '17 blowing up, but you never know

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GPrider 12/27/2016 9:34am
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I like how they throw out "Amid a rash of 2017 CRF450 engine failures" so easily. Other than their issue, haven't heard of any. Doesn't mean there isn't an issue, but a rash? How is it not common knowledge at this point? If there is then a replacement part will fix it, done.
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Honda129 12/27/2016 9:46am
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Ya , wtf? Amid a rash of 17 450 honda's.
My bike seems to be running perfectly since the day I bought it. That's a vague statement!
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Honda will send out some ointment. No worries.
Aceofspades 12/27/2016 9:52am
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omalley wrote:
Honda added a tooth to the rear, dropped 10cc of oil in the forks, then got graphics that said "Bultaco." Now its Jody's favorite...
They mightve broken something on the engine while changing the fork offset or the rear linkage pull rods.
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Superdave19 12/27/2016 10:44am
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"rash of engine failures"? ....MXA is the National Enquirer of moto-
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tek14 12/27/2016 11:13am
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We heard many problems with first bikes but this is first magazine to write about it.
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Madmax31 12/27/2016 11:23am
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JWACK wrote:
Honda will send out some ointment. No worries.
LOL, the honda boys are butt hurt.
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mattyhamz2 12/27/2016 11:50am
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tek14 wrote:
We heard many problems with first bikes but this is first magazine to write about it.
I heard the same thing
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GPrider 12/27/2016 11:53am
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tek14 wrote:
We heard many problems with first bikes but this is first magazine to write about it.
so did Honda correct the issue with the current bikes for sale?
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avidchimp 12/27/2016 12:07pm
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The only problem I have with the new CRF is it isn't in my garage.
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There were SEVERAL "Pre-Production" bikes in the very beginning...
I believe some of the media-launch bikes at Monster Mt. (?) were pre-prods?
I'd heard of a starting issue/kick-start-back-firing even causing "broken cases" at the kick-starter...?

Since then, I have personally beat the living shit outta 2 CRF-Rs & 2-RXs...in-fact, ML512 and I Roosted ourselves like a coupl'a angry-racers at Cahuilla on some RXs that were ridden for 3 days of media abuse. In Baja-Conditions I've pinged an RX for a few miles and it didn't even flinch.

I've not seen any problems but for -1- magazine blowing their's up and I'll reserve judgement on that...magazine guys...pfffft!

Note: I've seen virtually EVERY BRAND have a Bad-Day in the hands of "Magazine Guys"...even 2 strokes!
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kiwifan 12/27/2016 12:32pm
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TeamGreen wrote:
There were SEVERAL "Pre-Production" bikes in the very beginning... I believe some of the media-launch bikes at Monster Mt. (?) were pre-prods? I'd heard of a...
There were SEVERAL "Pre-Production" bikes in the very beginning...
I believe some of the media-launch bikes at Monster Mt. (?) were pre-prods?
I'd heard of a starting issue/kick-start-back-firing even causing "broken cases" at the kick-starter...?

Since then, I have personally beat the living shit outta 2 CRF-Rs & 2-RXs...in-fact, ML512 and I Roosted ourselves like a coupl'a angry-racers at Cahuilla on some RXs that were ridden for 3 days of media abuse. In Baja-Conditions I've pinged an RX for a few miles and it didn't even flinch.

I've not seen any problems but for -1- magazine blowing their's up and I'll reserve judgement on that...magazine guys...pfffft!

Note: I've seen virtually EVERY BRAND have a Bad-Day in the hands of "Magazine Guys"...even 2 strokes!
This, me and my racing buddies were discussing this article and were laughing at the sheer nonsense of it, even the non-Honda lads were saying WTF (2 guys currently own one with zero issues)... I see MXA now have an article saying the 2008 model is better than the 2017....shaking my head at that!!!

Look we know MXA are not Honda fans, so lets put it into perspective.
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kiwifan 12/27/2016 12:33pm
12/27/2016 12:33pm Edited Date/Time 12/27/2016 12:49pm
tek14 wrote:
We heard many problems with first bikes but this is first magazine to write about it.
lol evidence please? or only hearsay? and who is 'we'?
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Got a few hours on mine, no problems at all

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JRT812 12/27/2016 1:37pm
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Didn't realize there were that many 17 Honda's out there to determine there is a rash of engine failures. Didn't dealers get the Honda's like a month ago?
Underground 12/27/2016 1:58pm
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MXA needs to change their airfilters more often. Probably trying to choke it up some to alter the power figures
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TeamGreen wrote:
There were SEVERAL "Pre-Production" bikes in the very beginning... I believe some of the media-launch bikes at Monster Mt. (?) were pre-prods? I'd heard of a...
There were SEVERAL "Pre-Production" bikes in the very beginning...
I believe some of the media-launch bikes at Monster Mt. (?) were pre-prods?
I'd heard of a starting issue/kick-start-back-firing even causing "broken cases" at the kick-starter...?

Since then, I have personally beat the living shit outta 2 CRF-Rs & 2-RXs...in-fact, ML512 and I Roosted ourselves like a coupl'a angry-racers at Cahuilla on some RXs that were ridden for 3 days of media abuse. In Baja-Conditions I've pinged an RX for a few miles and it didn't even flinch.

I've not seen any problems but for -1- magazine blowing their's up and I'll reserve judgement on that...magazine guys...pfffft!

Note: I've seen virtually EVERY BRAND have a Bad-Day in the hands of "Magazine Guys"...even 2 strokes!
kiwifan wrote:
This, me and my racing buddies were discussing this article and were laughing at the sheer nonsense of it, even the non-Honda lads were saying WTF...
This, me and my racing buddies were discussing this article and were laughing at the sheer nonsense of it, even the non-Honda lads were saying WTF (2 guys currently own one with zero issues)... I see MXA now have an article saying the 2008 model is better than the 2017....shaking my head at that!!!

Look we know MXA are not Honda fans, so lets put it into perspective.
The rate at which they recycle their articles, MXA should get an environmentally friendly award.
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smoothies862 12/27/2016 3:11pm
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the yzfs started this way too. hope its not for new Honda owners sake.
I like mxa but the thing that sets off my spidy senses is the reader questions. they seem very fake. maybe not.
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Many people are telling me about these so called issues and I know some really fabulous people. People that really know a lot about mx bikes. These people have the best mx bikes ever made. When I'm in charge I will stop these new Hondas from comming into our country until we figure out what the real problem is. Look at the problem it's causing in Europe where they just let the Japanese just import a dangerous mx bike. I want all owners to register them so we know where these time bombs could be located. I am the only one that can save you from this death bike.

MXA just seems to using a proven method to freak people out, why is everyone so mad all of a sudden? Bunch of Honda snowflakes.
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kiwifan 12/27/2016 4:54pm
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RMT wrote:
Many people are telling me about these so called issues and I know some really fabulous people. People that really know a lot about mx bikes...
Many people are telling me about these so called issues and I know some really fabulous people. People that really know a lot about mx bikes. These people have the best mx bikes ever made. When I'm in charge I will stop these new Hondas from comming into our country until we figure out what the real problem is. Look at the problem it's causing in Europe where they just let the Japanese just import a dangerous mx bike. I want all owners to register them so we know where these time bombs could be located. I am the only one that can save you from this death bike.

MXA just seems to using a proven method to freak people out, why is everyone so mad all of a sudden? Bunch of Honda snowflakes.
WTF??? Well you had better get onto the KTM's that have exploding wheels (kinda more serious) and the Yamaha cracked frames (even more serious)....but you NEVER posted about stopping those bikes....sounds to me like you are full of shit.
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RMT wrote:
Many people are telling me about these so called issues and I know some really fabulous people. People that really know a lot about mx bikes...
Many people are telling me about these so called issues and I know some really fabulous people. People that really know a lot about mx bikes. These people have the best mx bikes ever made. When I'm in charge I will stop these new Hondas from comming into our country until we figure out what the real problem is. Look at the problem it's causing in Europe where they just let the Japanese just import a dangerous mx bike. I want all owners to register them so we know where these time bombs could be located. I am the only one that can save you from this death bike.

MXA just seems to using a proven method to freak people out, why is everyone so mad all of a sudden? Bunch of Honda snowflakes.
kiwifan wrote:
WTF??? Well you had better get onto the KTM's that have exploding wheels (kinda more serious) and the Yamaha cracked frames (even more serious)....but you NEVER...
WTF??? Well you had better get onto the KTM's that have exploding wheels (kinda more serious) and the Yamaha cracked frames (even more serious)....but you NEVER posted about stopping those bikes....sounds to me like you are full of shit.
I think you missed the joke (acting like Donald Trump in his posting style).
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RMT wrote:
Many people are telling me about these so called issues and I know some really fabulous people. People that really know a lot about mx bikes...
Many people are telling me about these so called issues and I know some really fabulous people. People that really know a lot about mx bikes. These people have the best mx bikes ever made. When I'm in charge I will stop these new Hondas from comming into our country until we figure out what the real problem is. Look at the problem it's causing in Europe where they just let the Japanese just import a dangerous mx bike. I want all owners to register them so we know where these time bombs could be located. I am the only one that can save you from this death bike.

MXA just seems to using a proven method to freak people out, why is everyone so mad all of a sudden? Bunch of Honda snowflakes.
kiwifan wrote:
WTF??? Well you had better get onto the KTM's that have exploding wheels (kinda more serious) and the Yamaha cracked frames (even more serious)....but you NEVER...
WTF??? Well you had better get onto the KTM's that have exploding wheels (kinda more serious) and the Yamaha cracked frames (even more serious)....but you NEVER posted about stopping those bikes....sounds to me like you are full of shit.
I think he's making a very thinly veiled (and pretty stupid at that) political reference that has absolutely nothing to do with this thread or Honda.

Edit: looks like ML holeshat me.
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kiwifan 12/27/2016 5:44pm
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RMT wrote:
Many people are telling me about these so called issues and I know some really fabulous people. People that really know a lot about mx bikes...
Many people are telling me about these so called issues and I know some really fabulous people. People that really know a lot about mx bikes. These people have the best mx bikes ever made. When I'm in charge I will stop these new Hondas from comming into our country until we figure out what the real problem is. Look at the problem it's causing in Europe where they just let the Japanese just import a dangerous mx bike. I want all owners to register them so we know where these time bombs could be located. I am the only one that can save you from this death bike.

MXA just seems to using a proven method to freak people out, why is everyone so mad all of a sudden? Bunch of Honda snowflakes.
kiwifan wrote:
WTF??? Well you had better get onto the KTM's that have exploding wheels (kinda more serious) and the Yamaha cracked frames (even more serious)....but you NEVER...
WTF??? Well you had better get onto the KTM's that have exploding wheels (kinda more serious) and the Yamaha cracked frames (even more serious)....but you NEVER posted about stopping those bikes....sounds to me like you are full of shit.
ML512 wrote:
I think you missed the joke (acting like Donald Trump in his posting style).
oh my bad ..... blame it on the leftover eggnog Smile
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TheGetFresh wrote:
"Amid a [b]rash of 2017 CRF450 engine failures[/b], most commonly related to failures of the automatic compression release mechanism (shades of 2009)" Have they substantiated these...
"Amid a rash of 2017 CRF450 engine failures, most commonly related to failures of the automatic compression release mechanism (shades of 2009)"

Have they substantiated these claims
That is some aggressive writing.
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TeamGreen wrote:
There were SEVERAL "Pre-Production" bikes in the very beginning... I believe some of the media-launch bikes at Monster Mt. (?) were pre-prods? I'd heard of a...
There were SEVERAL "Pre-Production" bikes in the very beginning...
I believe some of the media-launch bikes at Monster Mt. (?) were pre-prods?
I'd heard of a starting issue/kick-start-back-firing even causing "broken cases" at the kick-starter...?

Since then, I have personally beat the living shit outta 2 CRF-Rs & 2-RXs...in-fact, ML512 and I Roosted ourselves like a coupl'a angry-racers at Cahuilla on some RXs that were ridden for 3 days of media abuse. In Baja-Conditions I've pinged an RX for a few miles and it didn't even flinch.

I've not seen any problems but for -1- magazine blowing their's up and I'll reserve judgement on that...magazine guys...pfffft!

Note: I've seen virtually EVERY BRAND have a Bad-Day in the hands of "Magazine Guys"...even 2 strokes!
thanks for the insight Smile I was cringing a bit but have had zero issues now on 4 rides
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TeamGreen wrote:
There were SEVERAL "Pre-Production" bikes in the very beginning... I believe some of the media-launch bikes at Monster Mt. (?) were pre-prods? I'd heard of a...
There were SEVERAL "Pre-Production" bikes in the very beginning...
I believe some of the media-launch bikes at Monster Mt. (?) were pre-prods?
I'd heard of a starting issue/kick-start-back-firing even causing "broken cases" at the kick-starter...?

Since then, I have personally beat the living shit outta 2 CRF-Rs & 2-RXs...in-fact, ML512 and I Roosted ourselves like a coupl'a angry-racers at Cahuilla on some RXs that were ridden for 3 days of media abuse. In Baja-Conditions I've pinged an RX for a few miles and it didn't even flinch.

I've not seen any problems but for -1- magazine blowing their's up and I'll reserve judgement on that...magazine guys...pfffft!

Note: I've seen virtually EVERY BRAND have a Bad-Day in the hands of "Magazine Guys"...even 2 strokes!
kiwifan wrote:
This, me and my racing buddies were discussing this article and were laughing at the sheer nonsense of it, even the non-Honda lads were saying WTF...
This, me and my racing buddies were discussing this article and were laughing at the sheer nonsense of it, even the non-Honda lads were saying WTF (2 guys currently own one with zero issues)... I see MXA now have an article saying the 2008 model is better than the 2017....shaking my head at that!!!

Look we know MXA are not Honda fans, so lets put it into perspective.
haha and the fact that the KXF beat out the Honda, and YZF lol - superb handling? psshhh

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