CR22 Interview, 2013 and beyond

Edited Date/Time 7/5/2013 12:16pm
Hope He gets top five at Red Bud
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7/5/2013 6:08am
Agreed, I miss seeing Chad up there. His ability far surpasses his results so far this year.
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7/5/2013 7:06am Edited Date/Time 7/5/2013 7:06am
What was that Carey Hart flash for? Hinting hes going to RCH?
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7/5/2013 7:13am
What was that Carey Hart flash for? Hinting hes going to RCH?
Glitch. Got that blip too. There is a RacerX film with a Hart interview running now too.

Reed sounded more tired than bummed in the interview. There was not one mention of the mysterious "virus" that has been the excuse for him riding at sub level up until now...why? Reading between the lines, I can certainly see Reed & TwoTwo on a different OEM next year. Hope it works for him!

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7/5/2013 7:22am
i think reed will be on something different next year, obviously he is still representing honda at the moment but after the season im sure it will be something else.
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7/5/2013 7:40am
Hopefully they push that shit off the track. . . Too funny. I like listening to CR talk.

Why do they put wood chips down on the track? Does it help absorb the rain?
7/5/2013 7:50am
IWreckALot wrote:
Hopefully they push that shit off the track. . . Too funny. I like listening to CR talk. Why do they put wood chips down on...
Hopefully they push that shit off the track. . . Too funny. I like listening to CR talk.

Why do they put wood chips down on the track? Does it help absorb the rain?
yep, helps adsorb rain. holds moisture a lot longer too.
7/5/2013 8:24am
without shades the story would mean so much more.

get back to it Chad whatever you do - be it bike change or whatever.
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7/5/2013 8:48am Edited Date/Time 7/5/2013 8:53am
Been thinking, to me, he's lookin', and acting, like a guy on the verge of burnout.

He's had it all on his shoulders for a long, long, time.

I wonder if it's any fun at all for the guy anymore.


https://youtu.be/QMy3AbpkYvw
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Always Straight up. Keeps it Positive and gives us his absolute Honest Opinion...for Good or Bad.
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7/5/2013 9:00am Edited Date/Time 7/5/2013 9:03am
Reed is a badass.

He'll come around. One thing I hate though. He says "there is always speculation in our sport" as if it is a nuisance. Well, there wouldn't be speculation if riders would be forthcoming with information. So, he says the knee isn't 100%. Why not say that weeks ago, when the conspiracy theory was his health or sickness of some sort?

Riders get mad when speculation happens, its not just Chad but all the big dogs seem to get pissed when the media "speculates" as to what is wrong when there obviously is something wrong. I know some dumb asses, probably even on this board would probably say riders are making excuses when results are bad and they do say why, but I think being open and honest would be more fair to true fans.

Again, this is just a observation and my personal beliefs. I know Chad will be back to being Chad and it is awesome to hear that it is indeed the knee and not retirement on his mind.
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7/5/2013 9:17am Edited Date/Time 7/5/2013 9:18am
So Reed has had issue with Honda this year (I guess the air fork issue), but is it more the company than the machinery?

It sounds like he's been trying to land a top rider to carry the team forward for awhile, but if I recall he couldn't get Dean because Honda wouldn't back it, and now Tomac is going to be the cornerstone of the Geico 450 initiative. There's not a lot of young guys who can perform at the level Reed is looking for in one to step in, and those were lost opportunities. Is a machine change as much a case of concluding that Big Red leaving 22 Racing out on a limb as opposed to whatever his own frustrations are with the bike and the season?
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7/5/2013 9:21am
So Reed has had issue with Honda this year (I guess the air fork issue), but is it more the company than the machinery? It sounds...
So Reed has had issue with Honda this year (I guess the air fork issue), but is it more the company than the machinery?

It sounds like he's been trying to land a top rider to carry the team forward for awhile, but if I recall he couldn't get Dean because Honda wouldn't back it, and now Tomac is going to be the cornerstone of the Geico 450 initiative. There's not a lot of young guys who can perform at the level Reed is looking for in one to step in, and those were lost opportunities. Is a machine change as much a case of concluding that Big Red leaving 22 Racing out on a limb as opposed to whatever his own frustrations are with the bike and the season?
If I had to guess...22 isn't the Big Team running red bikes that'll see the most change over the next coupl'a years.

I'm jus' guessin'...
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7/5/2013 9:32am
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Always Straight up. Keeps it Positive and gives us his absolute Honest Opinion...for Good or Bad.
I like reed I do.i wanted to here if he is dissatisfied with his bike and more about the illness if that is whats going on.one of are sports best has dropped way back and I would like to hear more from him about what's happening.
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So Reed has had issue with Honda this year (I guess the air fork issue), but is it more the company than the machinery? It sounds...
So Reed has had issue with Honda this year (I guess the air fork issue), but is it more the company than the machinery?

It sounds like he's been trying to land a top rider to carry the team forward for awhile, but if I recall he couldn't get Dean because Honda wouldn't back it, and now Tomac is going to be the cornerstone of the Geico 450 initiative. There's not a lot of young guys who can perform at the level Reed is looking for in one to step in, and those were lost opportunities. Is a machine change as much a case of concluding that Big Red leaving 22 Racing out on a limb as opposed to whatever his own frustrations are with the bike and the season?
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If I had to guess...22 isn't the Big Team running red bikes that'll see the most change over the next coupl'a years.

I'm jus' guessin'...
Okay, fine, but that's not my question.

But as to your comment, Geico and Honda itself are the only other Big Teams running Honda. It almost seems more likely that Honda would bail and pass the Torch to Geico rather than Geico change brands.

And if that was so, that could be doubly pissing off'edness for 22 Racing.
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So Reed has had issue with Honda this year (I guess the air fork issue), but is it more the company than the machinery? It sounds...
So Reed has had issue with Honda this year (I guess the air fork issue), but is it more the company than the machinery?

It sounds like he's been trying to land a top rider to carry the team forward for awhile, but if I recall he couldn't get Dean because Honda wouldn't back it, and now Tomac is going to be the cornerstone of the Geico 450 initiative. There's not a lot of young guys who can perform at the level Reed is looking for in one to step in, and those were lost opportunities. Is a machine change as much a case of concluding that Big Red leaving 22 Racing out on a limb as opposed to whatever his own frustrations are with the bike and the season?
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If I had to guess...22 isn't the Big Team running red bikes that'll see the most change over the next coupl'a years.

I'm jus' guessin'...
Okay, fine, but that's not my question. But as to your comment, Geico and Honda itself are the only other Big Teams running Honda. It almost...
Okay, fine, but that's not my question.

But as to your comment, Geico and Honda itself are the only other Big Teams running Honda. It almost seems more likely that Honda would bail and pass the Torch to Geico rather than Geico change brands.

And if that was so, that could be doubly pissing off'edness for 22 Racing.
I'd guess that the 22 crew just care about getting the bikes they want. They've been good for the brand.

On the actual "Honda" front: I'm in total agreement with you.
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What was that Carey Hart flash for? Hinting hes going to RCH?
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Glitch. Got that blip too. There is a RacerX film with a Hart interview running now too. Reed sounded more tired than bummed in the interview...
Glitch. Got that blip too. There is a RacerX film with a Hart interview running now too.

Reed sounded more tired than bummed in the interview. There was not one mention of the mysterious "virus" that has been the excuse for him riding at sub level up until now...why? Reading between the lines, I can certainly see Reed & TwoTwo on a different OEM next year. Hope it works for him!
A "Virus" or the " Knee " isn't the issue he is having. He hinted as to what it is......but didn't really bring it up or talk about it.

There is something I had heard from a very respectable source about what exactly is going on , but agreed to keep my mouth shut about it until Chad or the team says something.

Just listen to what he says.....it's in there.
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7/5/2013 9:58am
jeffro503 wrote:
A "[b]Virus[/b]" or the " [b]Knee[/b] " isn't the issue he is having. He hinted as to what it is......but didn't really bring it up or...
A "Virus" or the " Knee " isn't the issue he is having. He hinted as to what it is......but didn't really bring it up or talk about it.

There is something I had heard from a very respectable source about what exactly is going on , but agreed to keep my mouth shut about it until Chad or the team says something.

Just listen to what he says.....it's in there.
Fitness?
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jeffro503 wrote:
A "[b]Virus[/b]" or the " [b]Knee[/b] " isn't the issue he is having. He hinted as to what it is......but didn't really bring it up or...
A "Virus" or the " Knee " isn't the issue he is having. He hinted as to what it is......but didn't really bring it up or talk about it.

There is something I had heard from a very respectable source about what exactly is going on , but agreed to keep my mouth shut about it until Chad or the team says something.

Just listen to what he says.....it's in there.
waitn4 wrote:
Fitness?
Chad hasn't been one to keep quiet about his personal mistakes/shortcomings. He's usually more coy when there is a contractual obligation. Breaking down his interview, the first half, he references health/knee and personal issues every other sentence it seems like. The sentences between that he insinuates "changes" that can be understood as "personal" changes but might mean other changes as well. Is this Chad letting his fans know what he's doing and keeping himself out of trouble?
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7/5/2013 11:28am
I don't see how the Geico 450 news puts Reed on the outside looking in. They had the team together for Windham, now they are adding another rider to the stable with a 250 champ. Big Red should be big enough to have all that talent under their extended umbrella. Look what Shorty did from the back of his truck with a privateer like effort CRF
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7/5/2013 11:41am Edited Date/Time 7/5/2013 11:42am
VoR wrote:
I don't see how the Geico 450 news puts Reed on the outside looking in. They had the team together for Windham, now they are adding...
I don't see how the Geico 450 news puts Reed on the outside looking in. They had the team together for Windham, now they are adding another rider to the stable with a 250 champ. Big Red should be big enough to have all that talent under their extended umbrella. Look what Shorty did from the back of his truck with a privateer like effort CRF
I think the issue is picking off a rider like Tomac, and after 22 apparently couldn't get Honda to support getting Dean whe he was available. Reed's been on for awhile that he wants a rider to succeed him to keep the team going, but only a rider capable of winning. It doesn't seem like he wants to go the RCH/Tickle route. There's not many of those young guys out there, and Honda had to have committed support to Geico to swing that deal. Now, I can understand why Honda would choose between the two as far as long term commitment, because there's a lot of continuity between Honda and the Geico/FC folks. And I can see Tomac leaning there for the same reasons in his personal relationship. But if you're Reed trying to accomplish what he wants for his team, I don't know how you read the writing on the wall from the last year and not think your best opportunity for support might be with another brand.

Just speculation looking at it from the outside. Maybe Reed didn't want Tomac.
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7/5/2013 12:12pm
What was that Carey Hart flash for? Hinting hes going to RCH?
davistld01 wrote:
Glitch. Got that blip too. There is a RacerX film with a Hart interview running now too. Reed sounded more tired than bummed in the interview...
Glitch. Got that blip too. There is a RacerX film with a Hart interview running now too.

Reed sounded more tired than bummed in the interview. There was not one mention of the mysterious "virus" that has been the excuse for him riding at sub level up until now...why? Reading between the lines, I can certainly see Reed & TwoTwo on a different OEM next year. Hope it works for him!
jeffro503 wrote:
A "[b]Virus[/b]" or the " [b]Knee[/b] " isn't the issue he is having. He hinted as to what it is......but didn't really bring it up or...
A "Virus" or the " Knee " isn't the issue he is having. He hinted as to what it is......but didn't really bring it up or talk about it.

There is something I had heard from a very respectable source about what exactly is going on , but agreed to keep my mouth shut about it until Chad or the team says something.

Just listen to what he says.....it's in there.
LMAO-

Jeffro! I did't think you were a "I know but I can't say anything" type of poster. Tongue

This is what I heard, but I was sworn to secrecy but he did allude to it so,

http://www.mamapedia.com/article/rash-with-exposure-to-woodchips















HAHAHA- Just kidding. He'll be back,
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I think the issue is picking off a rider like Tomac, and after 22 apparently couldn't get Honda to support getting Dean whe he was available...
I think the issue is picking off a rider like Tomac, and after 22 apparently couldn't get Honda to support getting Dean whe he was available. Reed's been on for awhile that he wants a rider to succeed him to keep the team going, but only a rider capable of winning. It doesn't seem like he wants to go the RCH/Tickle route. There's not many of those young guys out there, and Honda had to have committed support to Geico to swing that deal. Now, I can understand why Honda would choose between the two as far as long term commitment, because there's a lot of continuity between Honda and the Geico/FC folks. And I can see Tomac leaning there for the same reasons in his personal relationship. But if you're Reed trying to accomplish what he wants for his team, I don't know how you read the writing on the wall from the last year and not think your best opportunity for support might be with another brand.

Just speculation looking at it from the outside. Maybe Reed didn't want Tomac.
I think it's tough to compare those two satellite teams because FC has been building their team since, when, 1998-ish?

They groom talent from the amateur ranks and maintain first right of refusal- a big advantage, right?

Nothing against Reed at all, but it's difficult for a 2-year-old team to extend a competitive offer to a proven winner. Wilson already got burned from one of those deals. I'm pretty sure a lot of these pro contracts say, "If we lose our backing then we can terminate". The owners will not offer a personal guarantee (for good reason).

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