Buying New KTM in Canada as an American(NY)

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6/23/2020 9:18 AM

Back in the day(2002) we just went over the boards with cash and bought. Then just pretended we went over the boarder to ride with friends. What is needed to be done now and do I get the Canadian tax I pay back at the boarder or just pretend I came over the boarder with it to start? Does my old method still work if I don't get the taxes back cause I assume I won't.

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Jeff "GyM" Briggs

6/23/2020 9:23 AM

Why not support the economy you live in?

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6/23/2020 9:26 AM

It's over $1000 savings?

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Jeff "GyM" Briggs

6/23/2020 9:33 AM

Border won't even be open until middle to end of July at the earliest

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6/23/2020 9:37 AM

Not sure about the tax angle, but I don't think I would try spinning the just came over to ride story.

They have moving pictures these days that they can rewind to where they want to. Like, when you came in. If they had the desire to.

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HAF

6/23/2020 9:44 AM

This game gets played both directions depending on the the each countries currency situation, having done this the opposite way (American bikes into Canada) back when the dollars were near equal a vehicle labeled for "closed course competition" coming into Canada was tax exempt. could be be similar in reverse. But getting across the border at all is going to be your struggle at the moment. I have been curious if anyone has caught onto this when it comes to buying parts/accessories online. Possible that buying from FortNine/Royal Dist./Blackfoot Direct right now could save some money,but with increased cost of cross border shipping maybe works out to be a wash.

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6/23/2020 10:23 AM

i was goign to buy a bike in canada few years ago, exchange rate wasnt AS good as it is now, but still would of saved me 500$. Kicker was, you couldnt earn contingency at american races with a canadian purchased bike. I made more than 500 in contingency with that 2016 so i came out ahead. And I didnt have to fart aroudn with the border trying to get my 13% tax back, and then likely have to pay 8% to NY. Just went out of state to ohio and paid cash and avoided sales tax.

Was going to purchase a sled up there brand new, and the warranty would of only been valid in canada. Significant other is from the canadian side but still a hassle to have to drag it across if somethign needed to be done. Obviously warranty not an issue on a MX bike, although I think KTM does have warranty?

The border is still closed, i've heard that Americans can cross? But I was told Canadians can not come down.

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6/23/2020 10:50 AM

It will not be raced so for me the contingency doesn't really matter much. Also I believe all bikes come with warranties however with the type of riding were doing with them we have never taken advantage of warranties.

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Jeff "GyM" Briggs

6/23/2020 11:06 AM

Gym Briggs wrote:

It will not be raced so for me the contingency doesn't really matter much. Also I believe all bikes come with warranties however with the type of riding were doing with them we have never taken advantage of warranties.

"Motorcycle Parts" ship across the border without tariffs...well, they did...so I'm assuming they still do.

So, there's always that.

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

6/23/2020 12:08 PM

I bought a bike up in Canada. Agent at the border asked me a few questions mostly to make sure I wasn't a smuggler, and let me on my way about about 2 minutes. He told me to go register the bike if I wanted, that was it.

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6/23/2020 12:25 PM

Gym Briggs wrote:

It will not be raced so for me the contingency doesn't really matter much. Also I believe all bikes come with warranties however with the type of riding were doing with them we have never taken advantage of warranties.

You are wrong. ONLY the Austrian race bikes come with a written manufacturers warranty. This says a bunch about their commitment to quality and their customers.

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6/23/2020 12:32 PM

Gym Briggs wrote:

It will not be raced so for me the contingency doesn't really matter much. Also I believe all bikes come with warranties however with the type of riding were doing with them we have never taken advantage of warranties.

O&GDriller wrote:

You are wrong. ONLY the Austrian race bikes come with a written manufacturers warranty. This says a bunch about their commitment to quality and their customers.

Really?

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

6/23/2020 12:38 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/23/2020 12:47 PM

I actually just looked up Kawi, Yamaha and Honda all offer standard warranty,

Actually RM is the only one who doesn't.

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Jeff "GyM" Briggs

6/23/2020 1:50 PM

What’s the problem? You don’t want to pay high sales tax & registration fee”s to a state that Does not allow you to ride your off road bike anywhere legally? 😂....

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6/23/2020 1:56 PM

sandman768 wrote:

What’s the problem? You don’t want to pay high sales tax & registration fee”s to a state that Does not allow you to ride your off road bike anywhere legally? 😂....

Exactly! We had to pay over $80k in fines and lawyer fees to ride on our 56 acres only 2 at a time in the middle of nowhere! lol

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Jeff "GyM" Briggs

6/23/2020 1:59 PM

Have you looked/shopped in NH?

NY blows!

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6/23/2020 2:03 PM

Out the door in Canada under $8000

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Jeff "GyM" Briggs

6/23/2020 2:16 PM

sandman768 wrote:

What’s the problem? You don’t want to pay high sales tax & registration fee”s to a state that Does not allow you to ride your off road bike anywhere legally? 😂....

Gym Briggs wrote:

Exactly! We had to pay over $80k in fines and lawyer fees to ride on our 56 acres only 2 at a time in the middle of nowhere! lol

You gotta be shitting me! $80grand! I guess what I spent on silt fence and seed that got washed out 4 times is nothing... Wow

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6/23/2020 2:20 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/23/2020 2:46 PM

mikec265 wrote:

You gotta be shitting me! $80grand! I guess what I spent on silt fence and seed that got washed out 4 times is nothing... Wow

Yeah we got a fine for destroying natural vegetation in the middle of a plowed corn field in November in western New York! lol! It’s a joke and many lawyers are awful. It was always a noise issue but came at us through zoning. We’re next to the Nys thruway. With 6 bikes riding at the same time whenever tractor trailers went by the decibel reader would still jump!

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Jeff "GyM" Briggs