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7/29/2018 5:57 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/29/2018 5:58 PM

Been hiring and loaning bikes for the last five years.
I'm Considering just buying new vs spending 3k on an old 2 stroke. Q. How do the new say 18crf 250 stack up reliable wise if in reality i would only get out once a month or sometimes once every 2 mths due to work commitments, i would just be going for a cruisy ride. Giving it some stick every now and then no racing and not Hucking huge jumps.
How do the new 4 strokes go sitting around for a while.? Can they clag up and get shitty to start?

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7/29/2018 6:01 PM

Get a new 2018 Kawi. They're going for cheap.

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7/29/2018 6:06 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/29/2018 6:15 PM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Get a new 2018 Kawi. They're going for cheap.

So we're the Honda's. Bit over 8k in Aus. Last year's model. Sorry No that was a 17 450 new

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7/29/2018 6:12 PM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Get a new 2018 Kawi. They're going for cheap.

Dougy1 wrote:

So we're the Honda's. Bit over 8k in Aus. Last year's model. Sorry No that was a 17 450 new

Didn't realize you were in Australia since I'm on a mobile device. Thought you were in the US. If I remember correctly some guys are getting them for a little more than 5k in the US.

No clue about pricing down under.

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7/29/2018 6:43 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/29/2018 6:45 PM

If you buy new, just get the cheapest leftover you can find. For the amount of time you ride, is it really necessary to buy something with bold new graphics, or new plastic? Don't get fooled into thinking a brand new '19 bike will make everything better. Just sayin'

Fwiw, you could even try and find an old blown up 2-stroke and put about a $1000 into, throw a flywheel weight on it, and it will be similar to a 4-stroke, but wayyy cheaper to operate.

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7/29/2018 6:53 PM

burn1986 wrote:

If you buy new, just get the cheapest leftover you can find. For the amount of time you ride, is it really necessary to buy ...more

Last I heard from our friends down in Aus, 2 strokes, even blown up and trashed, were still going for a ton of money

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7/29/2018 6:55 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/29/2018 6:59 PM

After your initial 8k investment. Sell the bike with 30 hours for 5500 and buy new. So if only costs you $2500 to ride a brand new model year bike. Leverage your credit folks.

So why buy a bike for $2000 ? Dump 3 into it...just to sell it for $1800? Negative equity don’t add up. Although that initial $8000+ hurts. But it’s only money. And who cares don’t sit on it for years and years. Sell it while it’s worth something.

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GP740
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7/29/2018 7:19 PM

GeorgiePorgie wrote:

After your initial 8k investment. Sell the bike with 30 hours for 5500 and buy new. So if only costs you $2500 to ride a brand ...more

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Instead of having old shit lying around. When you're 40 odd I don't mind looking at something I've worked for.

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7/29/2018 7:37 PM

burn1986 wrote:

If you buy new, just get the cheapest leftover you can find. For the amount of time you ride, is it really necessary to buy ...more

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Last I heard from our friends down in Aus, 2 strokes, even blown up and trashed, were still going for a ton of money

Yep just seen a blown Up bottom an top end on a 01 2 stroke still wanted 1500. Wack another what 2 K easy to rebuild engine, plastics, tires , levers etc etc and your still stuck with an old bike that you constantly put money into.

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7/29/2018 10:43 PM

Sorry guys sorta getting off track answering my own questions. My main query is how does the new 4 strokes go sitting around for a month or 2 and much maintainence needed in the first few years of buying brand new ? I grew up on 2 strokes.

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7/30/2018 5:35 AM

Dougy1 wrote:

Sorry guys sorta getting off track answering my own questions. My main query is how does the new 4 strokes go sitting around ...more

My 2017 KTM 350 sat from November to March and started up no problem. Other than checking the spokes, and draining the gas she was good.

You'll be fine with an EFI bike, just either get some good race gas or fuel stabilizer.

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7/30/2018 6:37 AM

I use this in my bikes including my 350 which sit during the winter unridden for 3-4 months. Never drained the fuel and it started up and ran as it did the first day I got it.
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7/30/2018 4:12 PM

just a opinion as i just went through this 7-8k for a new 450 or a used 2 stoke was my options. picked up a rm 250 for 1500 canadian put 500 into it and lot of time* i am a machinist* so basicly restored it best i could. for 2 grand and no payments im riding tracks and trails having a blast. but if your super fast and super into it ride everyday maybe a new bike is best. the suzuki and kawis are going so cheap brand new its just awesome. i just more comfortable on the 2 stroke. just a thought.

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7/30/2018 4:29 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/30/2018 4:31 PM

I'd probably try to pick up an extremely low hour year old bike.

I paid $5400 for my 17 YZ250F with 7 hours on it. Not a single scratch to be found on it. New would have been around $6500-7k.
Picked up my wifes 2017 KLX140G with 1 ride on it, 1 tiny scratch for $2300. New is around $3700 + Taxes.

Huge savings for essentially a new bike.

Moving forward, unless i can't find used or a leftover is going for $5k for a brand i'm willing to ride, i'm going the extremely low hour used route.

Local dealer gave me a choice of a Honda & Kawasaki for $5900 OTD. Was tempting, but really wanted to stick with a Yamaha and found that deal on my bike. I could get over 7 hours with how good of shape it was in. I tried finding a left over Yamaha, all were still going to end up high 6's once taxes were involved.

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7/30/2018 4:36 PM

Yea left over probably your best bet. Save some money and still will probably be able to resell for same as if you’d buy brand new. 2-3 year old bikes only depreciate so much.

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GP740
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7/30/2018 4:38 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/30/2018 4:39 PM

I would get a 18 or 17 kx since they are the same while they are cheep. Before all new 450 are over 10k. A 450 for less than 6k is a steal you can put enzo or factory connection revalve for less than the difference and make huge improvements in the handeling. Best money I spent.

Kx is the cheepest and lightest jap 450 it just needs suspension and you are good 2 go.

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7/30/2018 5:06 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/30/2018 5:08 PM

Dougy1 wrote:

Sorry guys sorta getting off track answering my own questions. My main query is how does the new 4 strokes go sitting around ...more

If you buy a bike brand new and ride it once or twice a month, you shouldn't have to do anything except oil changes for the first 18 months. If you just cruise around you can probably go 3-4 years before even needing to replace any engine components.

My dad (slower guy and rides once every 4-6 weeks) has done only one top end on his 08 CRF250 since he bought it brand new, and that's it for major engine maintenance. That 2018 CRF250 will last you a LONG time.

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7/30/2018 6:30 PM

I’m of the thinking that since I’m older, not a pro and not racing why does it really matter what year/model bike I ride. That being said with the minimal riding you’ll be doing, I’d be all over a leftover model of your choice. Maybe a 2 year old bike with 10-15 hours. Just Use stabil over the winter or drain it out come spring. Good luck!

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