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As for penalties, basing it on the Olympic sport cycle and then applying the ban equally to all sports is a bit draconian. The penalty ought to be tailored to the sport. For some of these penalties where the athelete is wading through the apparent maze of the TUE process (for a legitimately prescribed medication) or where the ingestion is a result of tainted food at a restaraunt or something similar, a reduced penalty or probation seems more appropriate. Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem that either of these circumstances exist in Tickle’s case.
The sport rightfully asked for and implemented a testing process. Just because a positive test occurs is no reason for all the abuse directed towards the process. Anyone racing knows what they are signing up for.
I like the idea of testing, but I think the WADA penalty structure is way over the top.
The Shop
However if I was getting paid to compete in a sport where you can get tested I really do think I would be aware of what i was eating and consmuming.
So if you get popped, you're done. Some also want to do away with weight cuts and start using everyday weights because weight cutting is basically lots of diuretics, stims, and crazy shit like DNP. You can literally cook yourself with DNP but it works.
Some guys are dropping 40+ lbs in a few days. Its nuts.
I would love to listen to an interview with Aldon later on when all of this is settled.
I’m only posting to talk about my experience, with DMAA; as it really caught me by surprise to see it mentioned on a motocross site, of all places. I don’t drink energy drinks, and not even coffee; so any sort of caffeine, or stimulant, would lead you to believe that I react in a pretty elevated manner to such.
I hadn’t taken any type of pre workout for my life’s entirety, never once using any kindof boost going to the gym. Moving away from racing, I began to lift weights years ago, and really put my focus towards the strength side, of strength and conditioning. However, about 5 months ago, I was convinced by my friend, to try this pre-workout, taking his word, and using a 1/2 scoop. It was a branch of the Jack3d series, was a “proprietary blend” of ingredients, and contained the 1-3 DMAA. The scoop, was about the size of my thumbnail.
I’ve never taken adderall, vivance, or anything like that. But my goodness, was this stuff performance changing. I was supersetting considerable deadlifts, with farmers walks as my breather. Literally just wanted to break the bar across my leg, almost like an entire different level of testosterone and aggression. It had me beyond energized, and the focus, for me, was out of this world. A definite rage like mentality.
After using it for about a week and a half, I progressed to a full scoop (two thumbnails), after a day at work, and light eating that day. Wrong move. I came home about 3 hours later, and legitimately thought I was going to have a heart attack, while I was laying down on the couch.
It was my ignorance to progress so fast, jumping head first into the most potent of stimulants. I should’ve eaten, taken it slow, and tried another pre workout, prior to dabbling into the hardcore stuff. To my knowledge, many retail stores won’t carry any product with the ingredient in it. I eventually told a friend, that I couldn’t imagine having this when I raced. I would either collapse on the track, win at all costs, or walk way injured. No in between. It’s a definite game changer.
Hope to see Broc on the track as soon as possible, and wish him the best.
Here's the point I'm getting to. The athlete is ultimately responsible for what he/she puts in his/her body. They are responsible for knowing the risks, and the ingredients. Cade Clason seems like a nice guy, but he started taking Adderall AFTER the whole JS7 debacle without knowing for absolute certainty that he was good to go. I'm sure it was a naive mistake. But, he was dumb enough to roll the dice. Same thing with Tickle. Maybe he had a sniffle in early Feb and his wife bought him some cold medication at an alternative health place. And he just took it. What can I say....stupid is as stupid does. Guys like Anderson, Marvin and Tomac have been tested way more this year and have not tested positive. I'm not going to cry for Broc Tickle.
How many people would drink then drive (over the limit) if getting caught came with a four-year ban?
Part of being a professional athlete is following rules to the letter and dealing with consequences if caught doing otherwise.
That said, maybe the test was a false-positive and Tickle was following the rules. If so, he should get to return to action right away. If he was breaking the rules, at this point in his career he may be done. That's life in the jungle of pro racing.
Is his deal at KTM through 2019 or does it end this year?
And, dare I say, what if we tested the athletes at amateur motocross nationals?
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Be interesting to see if we find out how he ingested it and if it was an oversight on his or Aldon’s behalf.... because that program ain’t cheap and this is likely Broc’s career.
Whether the punishment fits the crime is subjective and up to the sanctioning body.
I'd wager a guess Tickle has made millions and is healthy. He has done better than most in pro racing. If this is the end he has done pretty well for himself.
That said, maybe it was a false-positive, he did no wrong, and can return right away. Let's hope for the best.
The entire involvement of olympic type drug testing with penalties that don't remotely suit our sport are ridiculous.
And further - Broc still isn't a winner. Not hating - just stating. He can take every drug on the banned list - and he won't go one tenth faster.
Moto is the rare sport where it isn't something measureable in strength or pure fitness.
Shame for him - it's costly to appeal and not worth his time. Typical bureaucratic bullshit..he can call it a career in a sport where not nearly enough money is made for anyone involved for the investment, risk and longevity.
I’m not though this thread yet but read your post and thought the same thing.
Even if you’re not doing anything on purpose, too much risk of ending a career.
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Is there a list of guys who have been tested this year or last year? I would be curious who has been tested so far.
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