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(1) re- negotiate lease with property owner, with permission to hold international events;
(2) sign contract for international event.
Sounds like the promoter did the deal backwards, giving ALL the leverage to the land owner.
I hope Eli will come to the MXDN to close their mouths.
The Shop
400, they have multiple venue changes and TBDs because the FIM requires a provisional schedule almost a full year in advance, and things can and will change, as we just saw with Gatorback. I'm not falling on the sword for anyone, we are all trying to make this work after getting blindsided by the new lease terms. I don't know if Gatorback is gone forever or not, but WW Motocross Park stepped up immediately to help save this event (and likely the Mini O's too). Give the race (and the place) a chance and I think a lot of you will be pleasantly surprised...
DC
Racer X
Can spectators get to the infield, will there be tunnels under the jumps to allow spectators to cross under the track?
If not it's going to be a worthless fan experience. probably as bad as trying to spectate at the Elsinore MX nationals.
With all the outstanding tracks that could have been used I can't understand how this debacle happened.
I bet glen Helen is having a quite chuckle nowing their not involved in this clusterf'
Pit Row
Might save yourselves a lot of agro from spectators
this is motocross:
I've been at GPs, were you can see buggerall, because of the enormous size of the ad boards. I've spoken with spectators who've been so pissed by it happening so often, that their approach was to try Not to use products that are advertised by such huge boards. And tell the advertiser of their reasons for doing so.And / or, stop going to the GPs. And watch it on screens - which is what Luongo wants.............
All it would take, most times, is 6" from the top and bottom, and there'd still be a Bloody Big sign for TV footage, and 'at track' spectators would have a far better time. Though, I'm starting to see some ridiculous signage at US events, and the VIP tent thing, is getting more over the top than the GPs.
It's the main problem at flat land tracks - vision for the attending spectators..
But hell, MX is (well it started about) Natural Terrain, and a hell of a lot of land, is flat. You build to the terrain you have. Remember the vast amount of 'twattage' here, and elsewhere, by dickheads that know eff all about MX, when they bleated about Lommel before the MXDN? Pictures were put up of the flat plot of sand that it is, set in a light industrial zone - but it is one of the Palaces of Motocross, once it gets put to use. But of course, those same twats will go on about GP tracks with no elevation change, even if they watch racing at a place like Loket this coming weekend. I've traipsed up and down that track many times over the years, and it doesn't get any less of a climb(s) and descent(s).
All the stuff I've seen of WW Ranch, shows an incredibly enthusiastic bloke in charge. The stuff about his dad not letting him ride there, but the Grandson being let do it, was classic. Well, He's got his chance at a Big race now - I wish him well, and success. Hopefully, he won't be bled dry by Luongo - but I'm pretty sure he will - that's Luongo's business model. As much as I despise Luongo , this venue change is purely down to an domestic fuck up through greed.. I really hope it hasn't lost you, Floridians, the Gatorback track, permanently.
My comment was more a general point in response to JoJmoto about jump filled tracks. I have an accute dislike of manmade circuits built on barren expanses of flat land. It doesn't matter to me which country it is; Thailand, England (Mallory Park), USA (Miller Motorsports Park & Lake Elsinore)... they offer little in the way of a unique technical challenge, rarely have any natural features and tend to lack any sort of character whatsoever - All the ingredients that a Motocross track should have in my opinion. Just pinning the throttle between precisely engineered jumps built on a soulless landscape is so far removed from my own belief of what Motocross is about. Those sort of tracks are virtually indistinguishable from one another and offer very little appeal for me as a spectator or as a rider (with 30+ years of dedication)
Lierop is great because it's situated in a beautiful forest and naturally gets rough as hell, there are very few jumps, but I'm not a huge fan of Lommel - it's situated slap bang in the middle of an industrial trading estate but just happens to have very deep sand. The intriguing aspect to Lommel is the way the track breaks down and constantly evolves. However I don't agree with the idea that you can just dump a load of sand on a road racing facility and call it Motocross (Assen).
My intention wasn't to sound ungrateful for WW Motocross Park, but I make no apologies feeling the way I do about wanting to prioritise the fundamental principles of Motocross and retaining - for want of a better word - the sports charm.
WW Ranch is a cool place, I believe the racing will be great there.
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