Blaming the bike?

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Watching hill come right back into suppy and just have flow better than webb in a week over his 2 years and ferris last year getting 2nd in a moto makes me think, when will riders start to work on their own skills instead of just blaming the bike with their ego? Webb has never been the type to out speed you, just out work you, which isn't going to work on a 450, is it that the 450 seperates those with natural talent as the 250 is it a pin and stay fit type class? CC: why forkner is the next big time 450 rider?

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avidchimp 4/20/2018 8:59am
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I blame the bike every time I get passed on a track.
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kpersonius264 4/20/2018 9:08am
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That’s why I ride 2 strokes. That way I have an excuse when I get beat. Joking.
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I was chasing setup all day

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Hill got 21st in a mud race, and Ferrandis is a great rider who was the only guy pushing Herlings in MX2, and I don't think anyone has blamed a yz250f for bad results in the past 4 years. You need to find better examples.
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joshflo 4/20/2018 11:32am
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early wrote:
Hill got 21st in a mud race, and Ferrandis is a great rider who was the only guy pushing Herlings in MX2, and I don't think...
Hill got 21st in a mud race, and Ferrandis is a great rider who was the only guy pushing Herlings in MX2, and I don't think anyone has blamed a yz250f for bad results in the past 4 years. You need to find better examples.
He’s talking about dean ferris. The australian dude that came over to race one weekend during outdoors last year and got 2nd on a yzf450
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wreckitrandy 4/20/2018 12:49pm
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Don't blame the tools. It seems I remember a team manager in the 70's getting sick of his guys blaming their bikes. He entered the next race and whipped his whole team. I want to say it was Baker on a 125 Kawi. I've been concussed a few times since then though. Maybe I dreamed it.
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early wrote:
Hill got 21st in a mud race, and Ferrandis is a great rider who was the only guy pushing Herlings in MX2, and I don't think...
Hill got 21st in a mud race, and Ferrandis is a great rider who was the only guy pushing Herlings in MX2, and I don't think anyone has blamed a yz250f for bad results in the past 4 years. You need to find better examples.
joshflo wrote:
He’s talking about dean ferris. The australian dude that came over to race one weekend during outdoors last year and got 2nd on a yzf450
Doh!!!! I was at that race!!! My reading not so good!!!!
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kb228 4/20/2018 1:08pm
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Forkner is the next big 450 guy because he rides a kawasaki.
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BobPA 4/20/2018 1:18pm
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kb228 wrote:
Forkner is the next big 450 guy because he rides a kawasaki.
Holy shit, I just put 2 and 2 together. Welcome back Acidreamer. What happened to your original account?
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kb228 wrote:
Forkner is the next big 450 guy because he rides a kawasaki.
He was really good in amateurs. So that means he's gonna be the best.
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kb228 4/20/2018 1:27pm
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kb228 wrote:
Forkner is the next big 450 guy because he rides a kawasaki.
BobPA wrote:
Holy shit, I just put 2 and 2 together. Welcome back Acidreamer. What happened to your original account?
Lost my password lol
NYmotocross 4/20/2018 1:36pm
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does anyone notice none of the top 450 guys lack the flow webb does
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GregDVT 4/20/2018 11:15pm
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so he just out worked herlings? I think speed and talent had something to do with it. I think his main problem is having a thick skull and being naïve in the 450 class.

I feel like fans blame the bikes more than the actual people riding them.
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chad_111 4/20/2018 11:26pm
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Maybe some bikes just suit some people’s riding styles better. It’s not that the bike’s bad, but maybe it’s just not the bike for him.
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keinz 4/21/2018 4:11am
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NYmotocross wrote:
Watching hill come right back into suppy and just have flow better than webb in a week over his 2 years and ferris last year getting...
Watching hill come right back into suppy and just have flow better than webb in a week over his 2 years and ferris last year getting 2nd in a moto makes me think, when will riders start to work on their own skills instead of just blaming the bike with their ego? Webb has never been the type to out speed you, just out work you, which isn't going to work on a 450, is it that the 450 seperates those with natural talent as the 250 is it a pin and stay fit type class? CC: why forkner is the next big time 450 rider?

happy Friday lol
Herlings at Ironman.
After that performance just a couple of hours in the totally different bike, all the blames about settings must be ashamed.
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downard254 4/21/2018 4:15am
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I always blame the bike when I get beat, now.....if I win, then that’s all me I tell ya.

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keinz 4/21/2018 4:24am
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Roczen won races in three different brands, right away, What fcking settings, brand differences etc
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Cue up Euro Fan Boi's....
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keinz 4/21/2018 4:45am
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ehr400 wrote:
Cue up Euro Fan Boi's....
It's must to be hard to swallow if you even can't write in your motherlanguage
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When you ride a lot you know a lot about what the bike is or isnt doing well.

when you ride a lot of different bikes you know its strengths and weaknesses

some can ride around issues some cant.

if im riding at 90-95% i can compensate for bike issues.
if i go above that i know the bike might cause a problem.

again, you really need to ride a LOT, then think about what the bike is doing and have an understanding of how a bike works and what you can change..

that excludes the vast majority.

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