Bikes You Rode After Yours, Then Immediately Bought!

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1/8/2021 6:17 PM

Title says it all, which bikes did you ride after immediately coming off your bike and had to have? What was so bad about your original bike?

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1/8/2021 6:21 PM

I took one ride on my brothers 300xc back in 2012 and never went back to Yamahas.

I’ve been on orange for 8 years now, first was a 2012 KTM 250XC, I still miss that bike.

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If it can't be fixed with a hammer, it's an electrical problem.

1/8/2021 6:23 PM

2017 TC250, and now my 2020 yz250f

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1/8/2021 6:43 PM
Edited Date/Time: 1/9/2021 8:54 AM

Nellyinda803 wrote:

Title says it all, which bikes did you ride after immediately coming off your bike and had to have? What was so bad about your original bike?

2019 KTM 450 SXF

During the Vital 2019 450 Shootout, I LOVED it's feel and it's ability to be thrown around & my ability to move around on it; BUT! Our test bike had a weird mapping glitch that gave it a sort of "bog" or lag when cracking it open at lower-mid revs on turn exits. I got great lap times; but, it took a bit of getting used to with the mapping being wonky. Honestly, I was riding it like a 250...but, damn...it was a flicker.

At the same time, the Husky didn't have any such mapping problem.
Huh?
That got me thinking it was something with our particular bike.

As I recall, I loved the SXFs feel; yet, because of the issues we were having...I rated it 5th.

This mapping issue didn't make sense to me and when I asked around and talked to people like Jamie Ellis at Twisted Development...I was told it's an excellent motor and I just needed to ride one that was properly mapped.

So, I went and got one.

LOVED IT.

Still riding and racing it.

I went thru the same thing with the 2018 Suzuki RMZ450: I really liked a lot of the things it did; but, I couldn't get the shock right (Couldn't adjust it to work as good as I felt it should). So, I went and got one and figured it out. Once I had the shock done by Factory Connection? It was awesome. Rode and raced the heck out of it and even got win a Day in the Dirt on it & brought home some Bears from Mammoth.

So, let's put the 2018 RMZ450 in 2nd for very comparable reasons.

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

1/8/2021 7:04 PM

Had a 19 CRF250R, rode my brothers 19 YZ250F. Immediately didnt like my Honda. Even though the prev owner of the YZ had it setup for the woods, it was light years ahead of the Honda.
Sold it and I am now a proud owner of a 21 YZ250F waiting to recover from my broken scapula to ride it. I was blown away on how much better I felt on that Yamaha over my bike. And I had everything done to the Honda. exhaust, air filter setup, suspension, engine mounts. Aside from hopping up the motor I couldnt do anything else. I ride pretty tight tracks so the yamaha was a clear winner

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Gone:
2006 CRF230F
2008 KTM 200 XC
2017 KTM 250 SX
2019 CRF250R
Current: 2021 YZ250F

1/8/2021 7:36 PM

I had a 2010 crf450r that I really struggled with but I was young and new to the sport so assumed it was my poor riding however I got to test a brand new 2013 kx450f and was immediately faster and blown away with how much better and easier it was to ride! I bought one the following week. I’m back in the Honda train now but I have great memories of that 13 kawi! Very stable and confidence inspiring

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1/8/2021 7:41 PM

1998 yz 400

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1/8/2021 7:57 PM

I was given the use of a brand new 1990 KDX200 for a 24 hr hare scrambles. I had been riding a 1981 IT175 for a year or so before that event. I buffed up the IT , sold it and threw my life savings down on a brand new 1991 KDX200.

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1/8/2021 8:04 PM

godog wrote:

I was given the use of a brand new 1990 KDX200 for a 24 hr hare scrambles. I had been riding a 1981 IT175 for a year or so before that event. I buffed up the IT , sold it and threw my life savings down on a brand new 1991 KDX200.

Had a White and Blue one. One of the best Off-Road bikes ever nade.

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

1/8/2021 8:05 PM

2002 crf450.. at scenic highlands.. I was riding my laid out 02 cr250..

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1/8/2021 8:49 PM

KTM 125/150. I had always been a Japanese bike rider after we had some reliability issues with my brothers 2008 and 2009 KTM 450s brand new back then. Rode my friends 2016 KTM 125 and was blown away at how much better that bike was than my 2006 CR125 and 2015 KX250F. It was a huge confidence inspirer and was so much easier to ride.

Found a good deal on a lightly used Pro circuit built 2016 KTM 125 and scooped it up. It came with an extra cylinder with light porting and head work done by pro circuit but I was already so impressed with the modified 125 I never used it. The owner of the original KTM I rode was moving to AA and bought a 250 XC-F, he gave me a sweet deal on his 125, it needed some work, but I did the bare minimum to make it rideable for me. I threw the 150 cylinder on because the cylinder that came with it had sucked some sand at one point. I was still in high school at the time and was still serious into racing so I used the mod bike for a race bike and rode the 150 2-3 times a week after school. The hour meter stopped working eventually at 184 but I rode it 5 or 6 more times before I noticed the rod had some vertical play and decided to treat the bike to a makeover.

I’m slacking in my build thread on it, but I’m refreshing every bearing and seal in the engine and chassis, as well as doing the suspension myself, and adding some Titanium and trick bits here and there. The mod bike got a bottom end done at 164 hours when a tranny bearing shit itself so that’s been my main runner for a while. Wish I could get the 150 done faster, but when I started the build I was a senior in high school and am now in college so my funds aren’t like some of the guys over in the bike builds section.

I plan on making the 150 a more off-road oriented bike since I still race some harescrambles and GNCCs a couple times a year, and use the mod bike for when we head out to the moto tracks. I love letting someone ride that pro circuit built bike for a couple laps because they always have the biggest smile on their face when they take their helmet off. These bikes are such a blast.

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1/8/2021 10:59 PM

Rode a 1980 YZ250, sold my 79 RM250 and bought one 2 days later. Rode a 99 YZ400, sold my CR250 and bought a YZ400

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1/8/2021 11:58 PM

Leeham wrote:

Had a 19 CRF250R, rode my brothers 19 YZ250F. Immediately didnt like my Honda. Even though the prev owner of the YZ had it setup for the woods, it was light years ahead of the Honda.
Sold it and I am now a proud owner of a 21 YZ250F waiting to recover from my broken scapula to ride it. I was blown away on how much better I felt on that Yamaha over my bike. And I had everything done to the Honda. exhaust, air filter setup, suspension, engine mounts. Aside from hopping up the motor I couldnt do anything else. I ride pretty tight tracks so the yamaha was a clear winner

My buddy bought a '21 YZ250f last night and I got to spin a few laps on it today.... wow that's one impressive engine bone ...I mean bone stock! It does feel like a mini 450 but I was surprised that my 03 KX250 was a lot more powerful no doubt about it. Still, if this is where we are at with 250f's then I see no point in developing more technology into 450's, they seem to almost be too much stock for 95% of riders and adding more technology in terms of making a more efficient and stronger more powerful engine is pointless. Plus the weight in inertia..... I guess it would just take one mfg to take a fully dedicated leap of faith with a 350. KTM almost did it but that was 10 years ago and the 350 engine has greatly benefited from the last 10 years of R&D. Apply all the technology and new engine valve/porting/flow testing etc to a 350 and theres room to grow as far as finding new innovative ways to make more horesepower. I doubt it would take more than 3 years of full dedication to the 350cc displacement by all 5 of the mfg's if they all decided to race 350's collectively.
That 21 YZ250f was impressive and handled incredibly well but the ergonomics of the bike were probably the worst of any bike I've ever been on aside from the 2016 YZ450 I rode years back. The seat to peg ratio/room was NICE for me being 6'3 well, it was less cramped than my 2003 kx250 with lower fastway pegs and a custom made (by me) tall seat. The 21 YZ250f is WIDE at the front I dont care what anyone says that it's barely wider, its substantially wider from the start of the shrouds to the end and felt uncomfortable. The sides of my feet in my boots were hitting weird spots that felt like my foot wasnt even on the peg...it was a strange sensation I cannot explain b ur after all that 'complaining' I'm sure it's something a rider could get used to if it was your main bike. Coming of my 2003 KX250, no bike has ever felt as awkward as this 21 yz250f was ....maybe that's bec I'm tall too though...I dunno lol

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1/9/2021 12:03 AM

But shut that was a long comment but it's worth reading cause my evaluations perfect lol

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1/9/2021 12:09 AM

Lightning78 wrote:

But shut that was a long comment but it's worth reading cause my evaluations perfect lol

I’m not going to lie to you here, there is a 100% chance I’m not going to read that.

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1/9/2021 12:18 AM

Lightning78 wrote:

My buddy bought a '21 YZ250f last night and I got to spin a few laps on it today.... wow that's one impressive engine bone ...I mean bone stock! It does feel like a mini 450 but I was surprised that my 03 KX250 was a lot more powerful no doubt about it. Still, if this is where we are at with 250f's then I see no point in developing more technology into 450's, they seem to almost be too much stock for 95% of riders and adding more technology in terms of making a more efficient and stronger more powerful engine is pointless. Plus the weight in inertia..... I guess it would just take one mfg to take a fully dedicated leap of faith with a 350. KTM almost did it but that was 10 years ago and the 350 engine has greatly benefited from the last 10 years of R&D. Apply all the technology and new engine valve/porting/flow testing etc to a 350 and theres room to grow as far as finding new innovative ways to make more horesepower. I doubt it would take more than 3 years of full dedication to the 350cc displacement by all 5 of the mfg's if they all decided to race 350's collectively.
That 21 YZ250f was impressive and handled incredibly well but the ergonomics of the bike were probably the worst of any bike I've ever been on aside from the 2016 YZ450 I rode years back. The seat to peg ratio/room was NICE for me being 6'3 well, it was less cramped than my 2003 kx250 with lower fastway pegs and a custom made (by me) tall seat. The 21 YZ250f is WIDE at the front I dont care what anyone says that it's barely wider, its substantially wider from the start of the shrouds to the end and felt uncomfortable. The sides of my feet in my boots were hitting weird spots that felt like my foot wasnt even on the peg...it was a strange sensation I cannot explain b ur after all that 'complaining' I'm sure it's something a rider could get used to if it was your main bike. Coming of my 2003 KX250, no bike has ever felt as awkward as this 21 yz250f was ....maybe that's bec I'm tall too though...I dunno lol

At 5'9, ergos arent as good as the Honda. And with the wideness upfront. Some people just cant get over it, I dont mind it all. I was comfortable within 2 laps jumping big jumps on it with woods suspension. That engine won me over in a heart beat, and yeah a 250 2 stroke is gonna have more lol. I had a 17 KTM 250 SX before the Honda. I was way faster on the 250F, and will be even faster on my new 2021 YZ250F. Tired of running at 10k rpm to get anywhere lol

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Gone:
2006 CRF230F
2008 KTM 200 XC
2017 KTM 250 SX
2019 CRF250R
Current: 2021 YZ250F

1/9/2021 3:47 AM

2015 KTM 500 EXC. “The ultimate lazy man’s bike”

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1/9/2021 4:16 AM

Early spring fork on KTM 350 SX-f was terrible to me then I rode the first year model air fork and loved it.

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1/9/2021 4:19 AM

Well i had a 350 FC 2019 with lot of mods in it (Factory KYB fork and shock, FCP engine mounts, xtrig triple clamps, etc) and i tried my buddy 250 YZF 2019 and right away felt in live with it and much more confident. So two month later i bought a 21 250 YZF and i love it so far, just need to set up the fork.

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1/9/2021 4:55 AM

2019 KX450, 2021 YZ250F

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1/9/2021 4:57 AM

Had a 2017 Fc350, rode a 2018 kxf 250 and had to have one. Any of you that have done a bit of clay pigeon shooting will know that some guns just fit you and you shoot so much better, that's how I felt with the kxf.

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1/9/2021 5:10 AM

I briefly rode my buddies 2020 Beta 500 RR-S while working a hare scramble a couple months ago - I’m now getting a Beta.

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1/9/2021 6:37 AM

Had multiple 2014 ktm 250xc’s, went to a KTM ride day for the 17’s and bought one the next week. The counterbalanced motor was such a leap

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1/9/2021 6:56 AM

Had a '18 crf450 then rode a '19 yzf250, went out and bought the Yamaha. I never touched my Honda again.

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"Who cares about what other people think"

1/9/2021 7:11 AM

vetmxr wrote:

1998 yz 400

Couldn't sell my CR fast enough...

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1/9/2021 7:28 AM
Edited Date/Time: 1/9/2021 7:28 AM

In 2015 I put every part the mags said to on my crf450 including spring forks. It was ok. I was enjoying the ride and then rode my friends stock 15' kx450 and was easily riding faster on the first lap and fealt really comfortable on it. I rode the 16' kxf and it fealt like the 15 Honda. lol

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1/9/2021 7:37 AM

Did this twice the last few years.
Had my 16 Kx450 sold and planned on just cycling g for a year. Buddy bought a 2017 Crf 450 so I went with him to do one last ride on my Kawi and he asked I ride the Honda just to give feedback on the suspension.
3 laps later text my buddy Bob Wilson at Madera Honda Suzuki. “If you don’t have one please get me one.
So much for the year off..
Then it went the other way. Rode a 2019 Kawi and it just felt great for my size 6’4”.
So the Honda was quickly sold and I love the Kawi
Now I am all about riding my Turbo Levo to be ready for the first time in years I will be fit when the season starts.


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1/9/2021 7:40 AM

vetmxr wrote:

1998 yz 400

dnf736 wrote:

Couldn't sell my CR fast enough...

Same here. Rode the 98 400 and had to get a 99 400-like motocross for dummies with that bike. I think it remains as one of the most controllable 4 stroke motors ever made. The perfect amount of cc's. I remember going to the 426-didn't care for it. Then once I got my 03 450F I was like "wow this thing is a beast" and I loved it too but man did it pull my arms out in contrast to that 99 400. Give me a modern fuel injected 400cc mx bike and I think it would be the ultimate machine.

The other bike I had to have was a 2016 YZ250F. Rode one at the end of 2015 and I was determined to have one. Great bike.

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1/9/2021 7:41 AM

Was a die hard Ktm man, until I rode 19 kx 450, no comparison, bought a 19 kx450 right away, bought a 20 kx, now have a 21 kx

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1/9/2021 8:50 AM

Meister wrote:

2002 crf450.. at scenic highlands.. I was riding my laid out 02 cr250..

I was on a 02 cr250 when a buddy showed up with a new crf450. After about 3 laps I knew I had to have one.

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