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6/19/2018 4:31 PM

Beta have added another new capacity to their lineup, a 200 two stroke.

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NEW RR MY 2019 - An even more advanced, complete range
#betamotor (ENG)

The new Beta RR my 2019 arrives on the market with a broader range than in previous years. The Tuscan bike builder, in fact, hasn't just been working towards a more refined product with significant technical improvements: it's also introduced a new 200 cc engine. A 2-stroke that, following the recent introduction of the 125 cc, completes the product range, which now features no less than eight different models.
The Beta philosophy is to make sure each engine size has its own distinct personality so as to meet the specific needs of every enduro rider.
Given the engine size and low weight, the newly arrived RR 200 2T has inherited the chassis set-up of the 125. More specifically, the frame, in chrome molybdenum with double cradle split above the exhaust port, has been designed for small engine displacements. It features revised main dimensions and ensures optimal engine positioning. The chassis, an offshoot of its smaller 125cc sister - is characterized by a special layout that aims to optimize weight distribution and engine dynamics.
This model, thanks to the introduction of the automatic oil injector and the electric start, it's a great all-around bike for those looking for some epic Enduro or off-road free time fun.
The new 200cc, showed in preview during the Press Presentation of the Enduro MY 2019 range, will go into production during the next Autumn.
Of course, there's been no lack of upgrades across the existing range either, with improvements stemming from extensive race experience: in the last two years Beta has won two EnduroGP Manufacturers World Championships, an Enduro3 World Title and EnduroGP title with Steve Holcombe, an Enduro Junior World Title with Brad Freeman and two wins in the Assoluti d’Italia. Work has focused on both the engine and the chassis setup, with particular attention being paid to the suspension – front and rear – now fitted with top-drawer ZF Sachs components which are much more advanced than those used in the past.

KEY RR MODEL FEATURES:

2-STROKE

125cc
The smallest bike in the Beta range, the lightest and easiest to handle of them all. In pure racing style, suitable for both young riders coming up from the lower categories and more expert riders looking for a fun bike.

200cc
The chassis setup and engine derive from its smaller sister, while providing broader torque and ensuring extremely low weight and great handling but with decidedly higher torque and power. Oil injection and electric start make this a complete bike that is just perfect for Enduro enthusiasts.

250cc
Ideal for those looking for a gentler 2-stroke bike with slightly less power and torque than the top-of-the-range models to ensure excellent handling.

300cc
Made for those who like big-displacement engines with outstanding torque at any rpm. The perfect bike for those who enjoy riding long distances on smooth or fast terrain.

4-STROKE

350cc
This is the easiest-to- handle bike in the 4- stroke model range; it favors high-rev riding while providing a very linear power output.

390cc
Delivering an excellent handling- power mix, its winning feature is outstanding traction. The engine is very unique in that it feels lighter yet still provides added torque and power.

430cc
High performance engine that gives the best of itself when the rider exploits the long gearing and superb torque characteristics.

480cc
This bike expresses itself best in wide open spaces. Its characteristics are similar to the 430 model but with even higher torque and power, suitable for larger riders that are more advanced.

Following intensive across-the-range development and technical refinement, the biggest new features on the RR my 2019 models can be summed up as:

Engine 2-Stroke:
• New engine control unit (ECU): guarantees a more powerful spark at high revs, improving combustion and engine performance.
• Clutch actuator with wider diameter: gives the clutch lever a softer, more responsive feel.
• New BPV exhaust valve opening adjustment (on 300 cc only): allows extremely linear power delivery, creating a high-performance engine that is easy to use under extreme conditions.
• BPV centrifugal unit contrast springs kit (on 300 cc only): supplied with the bike to extend the bike's scope for personalization according to the rider's needs. Thanks to springs with a spring rate lower than the standard ones, performance is better at mid-high revs, giving
fuller, more decisive power delivery.
• Stiffer clutch cover (on 125 cc only): improves operation and produces a more precise bite-release action.
• New expansion chamber (on 250/300cc only): ensures increased performance throughout the rev range.

Engine 4-Stroke:
• New throttle control: designed by Domino exclusively for Beta for improved engine response to minimal throttle twists, giving optimized traction even on the most difficult terrain.
• New mapping for all engine sizes combined with the excellent response of the new throttle control.
• Clutch actuator with wider diameter: gives the clutch lever a softer, more responsive feel.

Chassis:
• New ZF Sachs (ø 48 mm) fork with new adjustment system: allows positioning of the compression, rebound and spring preload adjusters on the upper fork cap; they can be reached while sitting on the bike and do not require tools. The fork also benefits from a new packing system which ensures greater stability and a slider with special anodizing that reduces friction and increases durability.
• New fork shoes (yoke): stiffer and lighter.
• New fork guards: designed together with the shoe to combine practicality and design.
• Fully redesigned ZF Sachs shock: with more compact ø 46 mm piston, about 300g lighter.
The new piston has been designed to ensure more stable operation as the oil temperature varies and increased sensitivity to enhance comfort and traction. The small upper base and reservoir have also been redesigned to rationalize the system and minimize weight and bulk. New spring is also lighter.
• New graphics and colors.

RR 200 cc 2-stroke
As already mentioned, the introduction of the 200cc engine has broadened the RR my 2019 range. These 2-stroke engines have, in addition to the above, the following distinctive advantages:

Engine:
• Double piston rings (ø 62 mm): component designed to ensure high rigidity and reliability; the choice of double rings provides a better seal at the low and medium revs that typify Enduro riding.
• Beta progressive valve: made-in-Beta system characterized by a special relationship between the opening of the main flap and that of the side boosters. The delayed opening of the boosters enables excellent performance progression throughout the engine's rpm range.
• Crankshaft with polyamide inserts: favors lightness and ensures optimum filling of the crankcase, boosting performance and reliability.
• Cylinder: has an exhaust flange system as on the bigger engines, enabling better control of frontal piston-flap-cylinder play. By keeping this value to a minimum, it is possible to achieve a significant low-rev performance boost by reducing gas leakage.
• Aluminum demountable cylinder head dome: rigid and lightweight solution made possible by shifting the engine mount on to the cylinder. The geometry of the combustion chamber is designed to ensure a high-efficiency thermodynamic cycle and obtain the best compromise between responsiveness at low-to-medium revs and during spurts. It also facilitates fine tuning and replacement of the combustion chamber.
• Die-cast crankcase in aluminum alloy: the casing geometries were designed according to an innovative layout in terms of the relative position of components and with a view to maximum weight reduction without compromising structural strength. Considerable attention was focused on the main bearing area to ensure correct wall rigidity in order to withstand the stresses transmitted by the crankshaft.
• Die-cast crankcase covers in magnesium alloy: ensure very low weight and optimal surface finish. It also proved possible to adopt this solution for the inner clutch cover thanks to isolation of the water pump from this element.
• Vforce4 reed valve packet: the stoppers ensure high reliability without compromising performance.
• 6-speed dog-box transmission: specially developed for small Beta engines with gears made from forged blanks to provide mechanical strength and reliability while still keeping size and weight extremely low.
• Clutch: multi-disc in oil bath with reverse opening, actuator integrated into the outer cover. This is a system designed for maximum engine lightness and compactness. Thanks to low- slung positioning, it ensures reduction of power unit size and a significant centralization of weight, crucial for good chassis dynamics.
• Exhaust system: to optimize the 2-stroke engine's torque and power curves, the Beta R&D Department has developed a special system dedicated to this engine size.
• Electric start: perfect start-up convenience whatever the situation.
• Automatic oil injection: eliminates the need for a fuel-oil premix.

Chassis:
• Geometry of the new upper coupling points: various solutions were investigated and developed before reaching a final one that has allowed a reduction in engine-generated vibration while maintaining good engine-frame system stiffness.
• New ZF Sachs (ø 48 mm) fork with new adjustment system: allows positioning of the compression, rebound and spring preload adjusters on the upper fork cap; they can be reached while sitting on the bike and do not require tools. The fork also benefits from a new packing system which ensures greater stability and a slider with special anodizing that reduces friction and increases durability.
• New fork shoes (yoke): stiffer and lighter.
• New fork guards: designed together with the shoe to combine practicality and design.
• Fully redesigned ZF Sachs shock with more compact ø 46 mm piston. The new piston has
been designed to ensure more stable operation as the oil temperature varies and increased sensitivity to enhance comfort and traction. The small upper base and reservoir have also been redesigned to rationalize the system and minimize weight and bulk. New spring is also lighter.
• Filter box air boot: designed for this engine type, it improves flow across the entire rev range, even at low revs.
• Engine guard: made from tough yet light polyamide, it features excellent shielding to stop mud getting between the engine and the guard itself.
• Fuel tank: compared to larger models, a slightly smaller tank has been adopted to improve on-board ergonomics while maintaining good fuel autonomy.
• Cooling system: specifically designed for this bike, features new pipes and radiators with specially shaped reservoirs to fit the small size of the motorcycle.
• Nissin braking system: extremely powerful and configurable, the same as on the rest of the Enduro range.
Availability

Starting: mid-June.

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6/19/2018 4:36 PM

Johnny Depp just took his pants off

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6/19/2018 4:52 PM

Also need it thanks. Park it next to my Beta RR 50cc

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"A link is only as long as your longest strong chain"

6/19/2018 4:54 PM

The best bike i have ever ridden was a KTM 200xc. Very interested in this one.

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2018 CRF250R

6/19/2018 4:56 PM

I have a few friends that have Betas and they have been incredible bikes. A girl that i sponsor has 160 hours on her 250 RR and other than basic maintenance it has been a flawless bike. My son just bought an 18 250 rr and loves it.

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6/19/2018 5:09 PM

GrapeApe wrote:

Johnny Depp just took his pants off

Well, she is a sexy beast w00t

They will likely sell out of these, they hit the sweet spot with the X-Trainer already being their best seller. There is a market for lighter feeling, smaller, less power than the common racing bike in a niche that has not been filled in a long time. The demographics might be surprising, it has appeal from kids to women to A racer's to Vets.

Another new 2 stroke from a little boutique Italian manufacturer producing thoroughbreds.. Now 4 - 2t's and 4 - 4t's in the lineup from the reigning EnduroGP and Junior Champions, as well as 2017 Champion.

2017 enduro bikes production:10468 units (53+%)....

RR4T: 33% RR2T: 67%

Summary of the word wall on other models from above:

4t's: New ECU, throttle cam and clutch engagement more progressive.

2t's: New ECU, power valve and springs for the 300, new expansion chamber.

Chassis all: New premium front and rear suspension components. Graphics.

• New ZF Sachs (ø 48 mm) fork with new adjustment system: allows positioning of the compression, rebound and spring preload adjusters on the upper fork cap; they can be reached while sitting on the bike and do not require tools. The fork also benefits from a new packing system which ensures greater stability and a slider with special anodizing that reduces friction and increases durability.
• New fork shoes (yoke): stiffer and lighter.
• New fork guards: designed together with the shoe to combine practicality and design.
• Fully redesigned ZF Sachs shock: with more compact ø 46 mm piston, about 300g lighter.
The new piston  has been designed to ensure more stable operation as the oil temperature varies and increased sensitivity to enhance comfort and traction. The small upper base and reservoir have also been redesigned to rationalize the system and minimize weight and bulk. New spring is also lighter.

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6/19/2018 6:24 PM

GrapeApe wrote:

Johnny Depp just took his pants off

Johnny Depp wrote:

Well, she is a sexy beast w00t

They will likely sell out of these, they hit the sweet spot with the X-Trainer already being ...more

My friend is a Beta dealer and he rides an X trainer because he said its the most fun he has ever had on a bike. I really liked it myself and I'm considering one. I'm only 5,8" and the x trainer is the perfect size for me.

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6/19/2018 7:01 PM

I rode one last weekend and I thought it was awful. It vibrated like crazy and it felt like there was a rag in the airboot. The 390rr and the 125 were fantastic though.

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Care Factor Zero

6/19/2018 7:20 PM

wonder if the get Jeff Fredette to ride one,

I wish kawasaki would make a KDX200 again,

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6/19/2018 7:47 PM

YellowZonker wrote:

I rode one last weekend and I thought it was awful. It vibrated like crazy and it felt like there was a rag in the airboot. ...more

Johnny Depp just put his pants back on, but took off his shirt

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6/19/2018 10:28 PM

YellowZonker wrote:

I rode one last weekend and I thought it was awful. It vibrated like crazy and it felt like there was a rag in the airboot. ...more

GrapeApe wrote:

Johnny Depp just put his pants back on, but took off his shirt

I should clarify I rode the X Trainer jleews was talking about, not the 200.

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Care Factor Zero

6/19/2018 11:59 PM

What's the weight of those Betas? Doesn't say anything in the description and to be hoenst, it somehow looks like a boat anchor..

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6/20/2018 1:02 AM

YellowZonker wrote:

I rode one last weekend and I thought it was awful. It vibrated like crazy and it felt like there was a rag in the airboot. ...more

GrapeApe wrote:

Johnny Depp just put his pants back on, but took off his shirt

YellowZonker wrote:

I should clarify I rode the X Trainer jleews was talking about, not the 200.

I once rode a Norton Commando. No go. No brakes. Vibrated like hell. These Beta's are crap ermm

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6/20/2018 1:40 AM

The RR250 is 104kg/229lb dry, whilst KTM 250 EXC TPI is 103 kg/227lb

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6/20/2018 2:02 AM

Derpin' DJ wrote:

The RR250 is 104kg/229lb dry, whilst KTM 250 EXC TPI is 103 kg/227lb

Thanks! That's not too bad

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6/20/2018 2:31 AM

GrapeApe wrote:

Johnny Depp just took his pants off

Hahaha. Truest statement this year

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6/20/2018 2:33 AM

Im flying out to the media launch in italy now. I'll post more thursday evening after testrides. Thinking the 200 will be a blast.

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6/20/2018 3:41 AM

I want one. Loved the 200’s I had previously from ktm. Maybe I will find one in the woods.

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6/20/2018 5:40 AM

I'm lucky enough to have a diverse riding group. One guy buys a couple new Shercos each year it seems like, another couple ride Betas, I stick with KTM's (Picking up my new 19 300XC this week or next!!), and we also have a few oddballs with Jap bikes. We all usually swap bikes around whenever a new one shows up. It's a great way to pick apart the differences between each.

That said, I do really quite enjoy the Betas. The 300rr is an awesome bike. Compared to the Sherco and KTM the power is reallllyyyy smooth. The only thing I didn't like about it is the brakes. The Nissin's are ok, but to me, they are a bit grabby at times. Also, one guy has to run an old ground down brake pad behind the new pad so the piston doesn't pop out and get jammed up. Seems kinda silly to have to do that on a brand new bike.

Sherco's feel more like a YZ in that they are a bit more front end steering in relation to the KTM and Beta. The power is also more punchy when you have it on the aggressive map. The only thing I don't like about the Sherco 300's is the vibrations. More than the Beta and it's staggering how much more than a counterbalanced KTM.

The thing to me is if you want an awesome bike that fills in the gaps of the above two bikes the KTM is the choice. The 300's maps have a good range. The power off the bottom is strong but linear. Best of all, for me, is there is absolutely zero vibration. When racing over 100 miles in a midwest hare scramble setting (Super tight, lots of roots & logs, and slimy) that lack of vibration is very nice.

I can't wait to try out the Beta 200 (One of our Beta guys will get it). A couple of my bikes were the KTM 200XC and the Fredette special KDX 200. A buddy with a new KTM 200XC-W is still faster on his old Fredette special KDX!

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6/20/2018 5:46 AM

I was looking at getting a Beta prior to my 17 250 EXC. I really liked their ergos, it felt like a really comfy bike when I had a go of one. However, I am glad I got the EXC in the end, as the counterbalancer is a godsend. It still amazes me when I ride my brothers 16 model 250 EXC

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6/20/2018 6:37 AM

In the US, we don't get the RR 4t's with dual injectors, we get the RR-S Street Legal and the RR-Race Edition with the dual injector, closed cartridge forks and different rear number plates later in the year.

Here's the prices, it looks like about a $600 bump across the board.

2019 RR-S Models

Prices
RR 2 Stroke:
125 RR: $7999.00
200 RR: $8399.00
250 RR: $8699.00
300 RR: $8899.00
RR-S 4 Stroke: (Dual Sport)
350 RR-S: $10,299.00
390 RR-S: $10,399.00
430 RR-S: $10,499.00
500 RR-S: $10,599.00

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6/20/2018 7:32 AM

scott_nz wrote:

wonder if the get Jeff Fredette to ride one,

I wish kawasaki would make a KDX200 again,

X2

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6/20/2018 7:47 AM

With the 62mm piston, stroke would be 66mm to get a 199cc engine. Glad it is not just an over bored 125. Really looking forward to ride this new Beta. I have done just about everything to my 150 KTM to get more low end, the new 200 should be tits.

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6/20/2018 8:46 AM

scott_nz wrote:

wonder if the get Jeff Fredette to ride one,

I wish kawasaki would make a KDX200 again,

the 220 is better engine imol/ime, although it lacks topend power its a hillclimb monster and is very economical..
ive just sold of the last of mine as im moving os, had 200/220/250 kdxs along with wr 250f and yz 250/450f..

the news of a new 200cc bike is great..

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6/20/2018 8:55 AM

endurox wrote:

With the 62mm piston, stroke would be 66mm to get a 199cc engine. Glad it is not just an over bored 125. Really looking ...more

It turns out it's 62x63 190.2cc

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6/20/2018 12:57 PM

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6/20/2018 1:28 PM

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#1
KX125

6/20/2018 1:57 PM

feelit2morrow wrote:

The best bike i have ever ridden was a KTM 200xc. Very interested in this one.

The KTM 200 was so good because of it's power valve design, which in my opinion has been phased out because it was more complicated and expensive to build. The 200 has a rack and pinion style power valve rather than just a flapper and a spring with preload. It really is the way all two stroke power valves should be designed but machining all those little parts and building the thing is far too expensive these days would be my guess.

I'm keeping my 200 I know that!

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10' 200 XC-w
96' XR600r

6/20/2018 2:06 PM

Underground wrote:

I once rode a Norton Commando. No go. No brakes. Vibrated like hell. These Beta's are crap ermm

Got one sitting in the garage. The Commando, that is tongue

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6/20/2018 2:08 PM

love it.

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@endurolyfe 🏴‍☠️